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allegorical oracle

(6,466 posts)
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 08:51 PM Jul 2024

Considering that a crowd member was killed and a second was "seriously" wounded,

something seems off when the video is replayed.

No one behind TFG appears to have been wounded -- they're merely ducking down. The bullet grazed trump --yet he doesn't appear to have been at a higher elevation than the rear row of the crowd behind him. Wouldn't someone behind him have been struck? Especially if the shooter was perched at a high position outside the perimeter.

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Considering that a crowd member was killed and a second was "seriously" wounded, (Original Post) allegorical oracle Jul 2024 OP
I don't think a bullet struck Trump. LisaL Jul 2024 #1
NBC is reporting that djt is saying he was hit by the bullet (naturally) allegorical oracle Jul 2024 #4
Donnie says a lot of things Retrograde Jul 2024 #17
Both teleprompter reflectors appeared to be intact after shooting ended. LastDemocratInSC Jul 2024 #5
Fuck that Orange Bastard. He's a piss soaked turd. Piss on that fucking turd. SoFlaBro Jul 2024 #2
Maybe the angle was from the side. If he had Ilsa Jul 2024 #3
It seems like the bullet would've been traveling from his right to merely graze him. allegorical oracle Jul 2024 #6
Trump is so lucky that he turned to his right lapfog_1 Jul 2024 #29
I wonder (total speculation) if he was hit by blood and/or fragments from someone who was shot. Midnight Writer Jul 2024 #7
Trump's head was turned to his right for an extended time as he spoke. House of Roberts Jul 2024 #9
Yeah, you're right. I can see that in the still photos. Midnight Writer Jul 2024 #15
People shot in the head drop like a sack of potatoes Sympthsical Jul 2024 #8
Horrible. Hope this might prompt at least a few of his supporters to change their allegorical oracle Jul 2024 #10
Yes PCIntern Jul 2024 #11
Yep. Terrifying. Sympthsical Jul 2024 #12
I'm finding it horrifying that an OB -GYN was at a trump rally. Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #13
Just saw an NBC interview with him. He called TFG "President," so know why he was allegorical oracle Jul 2024 #14
Ron Paul was one Polybius Jul 2024 #16
Not every time. rwild1967 Jul 2024 #18
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You seem nice AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2024 #20
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My party? What, pray tell is YOUR party? AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2024 #25
Trump followers are losers. alarimer Jul 2024 #22
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He was at a higher elevation because of his elevator shoes.And those building are not barns. The one where the shooter debm55 Jul 2024 #23
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A tin building used to house farm animals is called a pole... wait for it... yagotme Jul 2024 #27
But is is not the large barns that people think they are. Only the large animals are in the barns. Smaller animals are debm55 Jul 2024 #28
Any farm building, built with round lumber (poles), and covered in tin, yagotme Jul 2024 #30
the people behind him weren't hit because the bullets came from the side fishwax Jul 2024 #31

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
17. Donnie says a lot of things
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 10:55 PM
Jul 2024

that aren't grounded in our reality. Now that the worst (for him) is over he's going to keep on myth-making until by Monday he'll be talking about bullets bouncing off his manly-muscled chest.

LastDemocratInSC

(4,239 posts)
5. Both teleprompter reflectors appeared to be intact after shooting ended.
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 08:58 PM
Jul 2024

Based on a review of the available videos.

Ilsa

(64,345 posts)
3. Maybe the angle was from the side. If he had
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 08:55 PM
Jul 2024

been looking straight ahead, maybe it would have hit him in the back of the head.

lapfog_1

(31,893 posts)
29. Trump is so lucky that he turned to his right
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 12:52 AM
Jul 2024

just as the shooter took the first shot. It looked like his rifle had a scope ( can't be sure ), and the shooter probably had trump in side profile. Buy turning his head the shot clipped his ear... I am discounting the glass theory for now... I think it was either the very first or second shot based on Trump's reaction... the missed shots probably were responsible for the spectators getting hit on the right hand stage ( Trump's left as he faced the crowd ).

Oh well, I wish this didn't happen at all... but if someone was trying to kill him, then you really can't miss... and now if you watch the West Wing TV show, Trump has his "Reagan moment" and the likely huge uptick in popularity. Sigh. Just like Bartlett in the TV show had a big uptick after he was shot after a speech in "Roslyn Virginia".

The SS has some explaining to do about how someone in daylight was crawling with a very visible rifle on a rooftop that close to where the former President was giving a speech. Especially when there were not that many buildings in the area ( according to an eye witness ).

Midnight Writer

(25,385 posts)
7. I wonder (total speculation) if he was hit by blood and/or fragments from someone who was shot.
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 09:07 PM
Jul 2024

If the shooter was on Trump's right, a bullet hitting his right ear area would have surely hit his skull.

Hard to believe a bullet would have grazed his ear and done no further damage.

House of Roberts

(6,510 posts)
9. Trump's head was turned to his right for an extended time as he spoke.
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 09:27 PM
Jul 2024

The crowd wasn't as close behind him as it looks either. Trump is on a stage with 15-20 feet of ground level between the stage and the bleacher seats behind him.

Sympthsical

(10,960 posts)
8. People shot in the head drop like a sack of potatoes
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 09:21 PM
Jul 2024

Some venue was interviewing an ER doctor with blood all over his t-shirt who was nearby and tried to treat the deceased. Someone near Trump was shot in the head, brain matter falling out. Doctor performed CPR, but there was nothing to be done.

allegorical oracle

(6,466 posts)
10. Horrible. Hope this might prompt at least a few of his supporters to change their
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 09:32 PM
Jul 2024

minds about the gun issue -- that it's not just wacky libs being "woke" about excessive guns everywhere. Sadly, it will probably prompt more of his base to make sure they're armed.

Sympthsical

(10,960 posts)
12. Yep. Terrifying.
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 09:40 PM
Jul 2024

Probably had zero idea it happened. One second sitting there, then just lights out.

It's one of those thoughts that can trigger an immediate existential crisis.

allegorical oracle

(6,466 posts)
14. Just saw an NBC interview with him. He called TFG "President," so know why he was
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 10:31 PM
Jul 2024

there. It was good of him to help the victim, who died instantly of "what looked to be a wound to the back of the head."

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debm55

(60,423 posts)
23. He was at a higher elevation because of his elevator shoes.And those building are not barns. The one where the shooter
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 11:24 PM
Jul 2024

was typical at County fairs for pigs, chikens, ducks and other small building for quilts Ia lot of Amish live in the Butler County town of of
of Voliare. The are not are filled with barns. Visit sometime and you will see.

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debm55

(60,423 posts)
28. But is is not the large barns that people think they are. Only the large animals are in the barns. Smaller animals are
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 11:41 PM
Jul 2024

in the pole

yagotme

(4,135 posts)
30. Any farm building, built with round lumber (poles), and covered in tin,
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 07:56 AM
Jul 2024

around here, they're called pole barns. Irregardless of size. Unless, it's small enough to be called a shed. Small animals can be kept in large barns. Often, a section is walled off, a separate entrance made, and used for the small animals (goats, chickens, etc.). That way, your chores can all be done at one location, and you don't have to walk building to building in bad weather to care for the animals.

fishwax

(29,346 posts)
31. the people behind him weren't hit because the bullets came from the side
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 08:08 AM
Jul 2024

The man who was killed was apparently in the stands on the bottom left of the picture.

https://images.wsj.net/im-979968?width=780&height=520&pixel_ratio=1.5

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