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madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
Sat Jul 13, 2024, 11:51 PM Jul 2024

Look what is happening after only a few hours.

President Biden addressed the nation condemning the violence. Barack Obama, along with the Democratic leadership, put out dignified and measured statements wishing Trump well and expressing gratitude he wasn’t seriously injured.

In contrast, Republicans have issued unhinged and conspiratorial comments across social media that simply serve to shine a light on their mendacity and disturbing world view. Tacky merchandise is already for sale. They have outright blamed President Biden for the attack at the rally.
Within hours, Republicans have managed to squander any empathy that non-MAGA world may have had for Trump in this moment.
They are duplicitous, they are cunning, and they are liars. Republicans are incapable of behaving like mature adults. They simply can’t help themselves.

I learned a lot about the world from my Dad. One thing he would say to me was that there are some people you just can’t be nice to.

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Look what is happening after only a few hours. (Original Post) madaboutharry Jul 2024 OP
nice post madabout.... democratsruletheday Jul 2024 #1
I agree with your dad. I am not going to be PC tulipsandroses Jul 2024 #2
Nailed it malaise Jul 2024 #44
K&R. n/t Different Drummer Jul 2024 #63
GoFundMe 'authorized' by Trump for Butler, PA, victims exceeds $400k; Vivek Ramaswamy donates $30k LiberalArkie Jul 2024 #70
Ya' can't GRIFT if you start paying for your own way...... MyOwnPeace Jul 2024 #78
At one of their nazi gatherings... 2naSalit Jul 2024 #3
Indeed!!! What the hell do they mean by THAT???!!? calimary Jul 2024 #80
Good question... 2naSalit Jul 2024 #83
Sadly there are conspiratorial comments from the left on social media too. progressoid Jul 2024 #4
I know, but I was talking about people who should know better. madaboutharry Jul 2024 #7
Massie posted some shit saying, in effect, how can we trust biden's DoJ to investigate this. CincyDem Jul 2024 #26
fanaticism poozwah Jul 2024 #55
Tell that to the media. We already know that. Nfm oldmanlynn Jul 2024 #5
The grift is on... Hikerchick57 Jul 2024 #6
Yup, JD Vance is blaming "Biden campaign rhetoric," even though the shooter was a Republican. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #8
Oh, look, another young, REPUBLICAN, white, male, shooter. niyad Jul 2024 #10
Whooda thunk? AllyCat Jul 2024 #18
Another Republican young white male shooter. yardwork Jul 2024 #30
Yes, thank you. Will correct. niyad Jul 2024 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author KS Toronado Jul 2024 #15
Delete please. His family doesn't deserve this haele Jul 2024 #56
His Dad owned the gun and bomb-making materials were found there ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #58
Geez, I just woke up bdamomma Jul 2024 #34
Vance has lips firmly planted. louis-t Jul 2024 #82
at the same time, it is not a bad thing for good people to be good and honorable people to be honorable. that is part somaticexperiencing Jul 2024 #9
Puts me in mind of BattleRow Jul 2024 #48
Yes, that is all well and good and we should be the adults over this. hadEnuf Jul 2024 #51
Trump's Own Behavior Was Grotesque DallasNE Jul 2024 #11
Trump didn't want to get off the stage because he had fallen out of his lifts. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #16
ohhhh myyyyy niyad Jul 2024 #19
Yup. He says "Let me get my shoes!" about 4 times starting at 1:30 in the video: SunSeeker Jul 2024 #22
Why would he care about someone else? ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #59
And THAT............. MyOwnPeace Jul 2024 #79
From what I read birdographer Jul 2024 #64
I have been curious about a small shiny spot I saw in the upper part of his ear amidst the blood. Teleprompter glass generalbetrayus Jul 2024 #66
Photos show both teleprompters intact after the shooting. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #69
Yeah, I saw that birdographer Jul 2024 #75
I heard Trump say that too. "Let me get my shoes! Let me get my shoes!" yardwork Jul 2024 #31
Yes, and this is why his shoes popped off: SunSeeker Jul 2024 #86
The bdamomma Jul 2024 #36
MTG bdamomma Jul 2024 #37
He put the Secret Service members at risk BlueKota Jul 2024 #52
Glad it was one of their own and not a Democrat. KS Toronado Jul 2024 #12
A Republican congressman said that Biden ordered the assassination iemanja Jul 2024 #13
Mike Collins is a stochastic terrorist. nt SunSeeker Jul 2024 #17
According to the extreme court, Biden is well within his "official acts" right to do so. niyad Jul 2024 #20
Only if SCOTUS says so. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2024 #68
If Trump was in jail, he would have never been shot. Emile Jul 2024 #29
34 counts bdamomma Jul 2024 #39
Merchan should place Trump in protective custody at Rikers. sop Jul 2024 #53
They bdamomma Jul 2024 #38
My mother used to say "if you haven't got something nice to say ..." Jarqui Jul 2024 #14
"If you can't say something nice, come sit by me." Alice Roosevelt Longworth. niyad Jul 2024 #21
Yeah my mom and grandma taught me that. However these are different times tulipsandroses Jul 2024 #65
I am not surprised at all LilElf70 Jul 2024 #23
He's trained them to hate the press underpants Jul 2024 #27
And in return the press fawn over him. It's grotesque yardwork Jul 2024 #32
Well I guess bdamomma Jul 2024 #40
Real drooler, wasn't he? ChazInAz Jul 2024 #67
Bingo. Big miscalculation on their part. Especially with the shooter Quixote1818 Jul 2024 #24
Oh Yeah, I forgot LilElf70 Jul 2024 #25
Of course not. The "reporters" just smile and nod. yardwork Jul 2024 #33
That's customary when interviewing people who aren't public figures. ShazzieB Jul 2024 #54
I'm sure we'll be rewarded for our good behavior BeyondGeography Jul 2024 #28
Their actions make it seem as if this was all planned BoRaGard Jul 2024 #35
Yup. Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #41
I certainly agree with your Dad. n/t. NNadir Jul 2024 #43
All this has woken Alex Jones up npk Jul 2024 #45
Not surprised, but extremely relieved. soldierant Jul 2024 #46
awaiting a measured, careful, supportive statement joanbarnes Jul 2024 #47
Well said madaboutharry.Your father was a wise man. K&R. c-rational Jul 2024 #49
I was out around people all morning today and pwb Jul 2024 #50
Are the press corp still including the facts that he is a registered BlueKota Jul 2024 #57
Which do you think? ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #60
Only the donation BlueKota Jul 2024 #61
Survey says? ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author spanone Jul 2024 #71
So...Nothings changed. spanone Jul 2024 #72
Not mature adults ever, not decent or honorable, RVN VET71 Jul 2024 #73
My dad told me MFM008 Jul 2024 #74
An innocent bystander was killed. barbtries Jul 2024 #76
Go fund me Linda ladeewolf Jul 2024 #77
Do you think any maga will believe the shooter is a Republican? louis-t Jul 2024 #81
Be nice? czarjak Jul 2024 #84
I agree about about some people you can't be nice to. LiberalFighter Jul 2024 #85

democratsruletheday

(1,880 posts)
1. nice post madabout....
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 12:03 AM
Jul 2024

and so true. They've already overplayed their hand and politicized the SHIT out of a shooting when their company line is normally "how DARE the Dems politicize any mass shooting"? Cries of "too soon" after Dems call for gun control after another mass casualty shooting event. They are fakes, phonies, just turds in the punch bowls of life.

tulipsandroses

(8,251 posts)
2. I agree with your dad. I am not going to be PC
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 12:04 AM
Jul 2024

I have no sympathy for Trump or his supporters. I have sympathy for my country and where we are. As soon as I heard what happened, I knew they would spin this for political advantage. They are still a basket of deplorables.

LiberalArkie

(19,806 posts)
70. GoFundMe 'authorized' by Trump for Butler, PA, victims exceeds $400k; Vivek Ramaswamy donates $30k
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 03:41 PM
Jul 2024
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gofundme-authorized-by-trump-for-butler-pa-victims-exceeds-400k-vivek-ramaswamy-donates-30k/ar-BB1pXKe5?ocid=BingNewsSerp


Gee, if the Trumps were serious why wouldn't they donate for the medical bills themselves

instead of making the suckers cough it up?

MyOwnPeace

(17,557 posts)
78. Ya' can't GRIFT if you start paying for your own way......
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 06:38 PM
Jul 2024

and besides, that's NOT the tRump business model!

As an example - every time IQ45 took time off from his 'job' to go to one of his golf 'resorts' - he charged the Secret Service full price fo the rooms in which they stayed - staying there to protect HIS FAT A$$! He even charged the US Government for the carts that that had to use to follow his fat A$$ through his lying 18-hole 'championship' round (I'm sure he thought EVERY round was winning him another 'championship!').

GAWD, what a THIEF!

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
3. At one of their nazi gatherings...
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 12:05 AM
Jul 2024

Recently, maybe c-pac, the slogan on the background wall was, "Become ungovernable". That should tell you everything you need to know.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
80. Indeed!!! What the hell do they mean by THAT???!!?
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 08:23 PM
Jul 2024

Last edited Sun Jul 14, 2024, 11:10 PM - Edit history (1)

"Become ungovernable"????? WTF???

Are they endorsing anarchy???

madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
7. I know, but I was talking about people who should know better.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 01:06 AM
Jul 2024

Like people who are members of The United States House of Representatives. Some of them have posted crazy shit tonight.

CincyDem

(7,392 posts)
26. Massie posted some shit saying, in effect, how can we trust biden's DoJ to investigate this.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 03:50 AM
Jul 2024

What an asshat…aside from the obvious tinfoil hat perspective, who does he think should investigate it…Boss Hogg or Joe Arpaio?

poozwah

(413 posts)
55. fanaticism
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 12:32 PM
Jul 2024

fanaticism is not an affliction peculiar to any one ideology. it is, however, usually associated with ignorance.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
10. Oh, look, another young, REPUBLICAN, white, male, shooter.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 01:38 AM
Jul 2024

Last edited Sun Jul 14, 2024, 09:37 AM - Edit history (1)

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
30. Another Republican young white male shooter.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 05:37 AM
Jul 2024

Last edited Sun Jul 14, 2024, 11:11 AM - Edit history (1)

This time, let's not let the news ignore that he's a Republican.

Response to SunSeeker (Reply #8)

haele

(15,400 posts)
56. Delete please. His family doesn't deserve this
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 12:35 PM
Jul 2024

On edit -especially not potential younger siblings, if nothing else.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
58. His Dad owned the gun and bomb-making materials were found there
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 12:41 PM
Jul 2024

He is cooperating with LE, but he's gonna face charges. MAGA will probably go after him.

Perhaps parents of young, disaffected males should lock up their toys better.

And yeah, don't doxx, but this is public knowledge already with the pic of his voter registration.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
34. Geez, I just woke up
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 05:46 AM
Jul 2024

to find out all this. That the shooter was a Repig, and our House members are accusing our President that he put a hit on a convicted felon.

They will do anything or say anything to put the blame on someone else be it us or the President. These are hateful, vile sick people who want total control and power over us and Democracy.

9. at the same time, it is not a bad thing for good people to be good and honorable people to be honorable. that is part
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 01:28 AM
Jul 2024

of what is making President Biden so wonderful in these days.

And we can be the same. We can do the same. We can message the same.

It's the people spreading disunity and misinformation and falling prey to the mendacious mindfog of the media and the GOP that are doing bad.

We can clarify things, we can spell things out, we can stand for truth, honor, and American principles all the way. We can spell out sometimes how traitorous they are.

And if the American public can't get the answer, like the folks in Detroit did yesterday at the Biden rally, then that's just the fact Jack.

Personally, I think we have a winning ticket and winning way and a winning platform.
And I'm not going to spend too much time thinking or talking about their bullshit at all.

BattleRow

(2,449 posts)
48. Puts me in mind of
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 12:05 PM
Jul 2024

The saying "words don't kill people,guns do."

Lots of talk by Repubs,but NONE about gun control.

hadEnuf

(3,616 posts)
51. Yes, that is all well and good and we should be the adults over this.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 12:20 PM
Jul 2024

But maybe Monday morning the ads can be restored and we can start countering this filth that the MAGATs are spewing.

DallasNE

(8,008 posts)
11. Trump's Own Behavior Was Grotesque
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 01:53 AM
Jul 2024

Initially, he cooperated by getting to the floor where the Secret Service smothered him but when the shooting stopped and people regained their feet, he started a series of defiant fist pumps and struggled with Secret Service agents that were attempting to quickly get him into the armored car at the event for this very reason.

What the nation needs right now is a period of calm so we don't have an outbreak of violent attacks on the anointed enemy. America was already on edge before this happened, in large measure because of Donald Trump. Indeed, it may have happened precisely because America is on edge (I am reminded of the shooting of George Wallace in 1972). Fist pumps and finger-pointing are the wrong message right now. Here is how MTG framed events today.

"Someone just tried to ASSASSINATE President Trump. The Democrats and the media are to blame for every drop of blood spilled today. For years and years, they've demonized him and his supporters," GOP Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia wrote on X.

Just knock it off. NOW! Before things really spiral out of control.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
16. Trump didn't want to get off the stage because he had fallen out of his lifts.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 02:14 AM
Jul 2024

Trump fell out of his lifts when he went down. When you have lifts inserted into the heels of your shoes, it's easy for your feet to pop out of your shoes. You can hear him saying "Let me get my shoes--let me get my shoes!" on the live mic as the SS was trying to get him off the stage. He didn't want people to find his shoes with the lifts in them.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
22. Yup. He says "Let me get my shoes!" about 4 times starting at 1:30 in the video:
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 02:34 AM
Jul 2024



Then he slips his shoes on and starts his grotesque fist pumps instead of wondering who behind him got hit with the bullet that grazed his ear.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
64. From what I read
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 01:16 PM
Jul 2024

The bullet hit the teleprompter, which shattered, and the glass from that hit his ear, not the bullet.

generalbetrayus

(1,860 posts)
66. I have been curious about a small shiny spot I saw in the upper part of his ear amidst the blood. Teleprompter glass
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 01:52 PM
Jul 2024

could be the answer.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
75. Yeah, I saw that
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 04:07 PM
Jul 2024

hours after writing the comment. I guess false stuff is bound to be flying around for awhile. If the bullet came that close to him, a sane and non-demented man would be hesitant to go back out. Unless of course it was staged. I find it hard to believe trump would put himself in any gun's sight for any reason, but a lot of it does smell of fish. Maybe it was staged without his knowledge...if it worked, they would be rid of him, if it didn't, they could use it to make him a martyr. Win/win.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
86. Yes, and this is why his shoes popped off:
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 03:21 AM
Jul 2024

Because of his lifts, his heels are barely in his shoes.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
37. MTG
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 05:57 AM
Jul 2024

needs to STFU. What a weirdo she is. The cult is going to get innocent people killed if they continue these lies and pointing their fingers at us.

I thought we heard this before about TSF getting roughed up which was a lie, his mugshot was because he was tortured that he looked like that, oh and raid on Mar-la Lago was an assassination attempt by President Biden. He will do or say anything to make himself a victim.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
12. Glad it was one of their own and not a Democrat.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 02:00 AM
Jul 2024

And with an AR15 no less, will R's want to revisit some gun laws?

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
13. A Republican congressman said that Biden ordered the assassination
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 02:06 AM
Jul 2024

He tweeted it publicly. Mike Collins of GA.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
20. According to the extreme court, Biden is well within his "official acts" right to do so.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 02:21 AM
Jul 2024

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,484 posts)
68. Only if SCOTUS says so.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 02:54 PM
Jul 2024

Pretty sure they have that loophole in there. They will ultimately devise on a case by case basis

Emile

(42,289 posts)
29. If Trump was in jail, he would have never been shot.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 05:35 AM
Jul 2024

He should be blaming the judge for not locking him up.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
39. 34 counts
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 06:08 AM
Jul 2024

a convicted felon, the facts state the truth, he should not be running for President. period.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
38. They
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 06:05 AM
Jul 2024

will say or do anything, to get President Biden to step away. There are big donors out there who see President Biden a threat because he wants them to pay their fair share on taxes. Plus President Biden is on the side of the people.

Those members who are pushing this sick theory of President Biden putting a hit on TSF are going to damage and ruin the country for their own sick greed.

Merrick Garland said in the past when TSF said he was almost assassinated at Mar-la--Loco to refrain from saying things like that. If I remember correctly.

Jarqui

(10,909 posts)
14. My mother used to say "if you haven't got something nice to say ..."
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 02:06 AM
Jul 2024

I don't have anything nice to say about this.

tulipsandroses

(8,251 posts)
65. Yeah my mom and grandma taught me that. However these are different times
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 01:38 PM
Jul 2024

I’m not going to be lectured by the party that has made jokes about the attack on Paul Pelosi. Calling for their supporters to strap on for an election. They have reaped what they have sown.

LilElf70

(1,569 posts)
23. I am not surprised at all
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 03:03 AM
Jul 2024

Did you watch when Trump went into his car when he was leaving. There was one Trump supporter in particular(male) that was flipping off the camera waving his middle finger, yelling "F you" over and over. What the hell was that all about?

These people are insane.

underpants

(196,495 posts)
27. He's trained them to hate the press
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 05:30 AM
Jul 2024

Attacking the press pool is a regular thing by him at his rallies.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
40. Well I guess
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 06:11 AM
Jul 2024

if his rally goers were told the "drink the kool-aid" they would do it.

These people were totally propagandized.

ChazInAz

(3,017 posts)
67. Real drooler, wasn't he?
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 02:35 PM
Jul 2024

The female creature with him seemed to be a well suited partner.

LilElf70

(1,569 posts)
25. Oh Yeah, I forgot
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 03:16 AM
Jul 2024

They interviewed some lady that was in the front row, saying they were ready to take a bullet for him. Then she complained to the reporter that the violence in this country was over the top and couldn't figure out where it all was coming from. She just could not understand it. Unfortunately the reporter did not take the opportunity to say "Does January 6th ring a bell in your peabrain?"

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
54. That's customary when interviewing people who aren't public figures.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 12:31 PM
Jul 2024

Especially when talking to those who have just experienced or observed a disturbing event. The point of those interviews is to get firsthand accounts of what it was like to be there. It would be rude and tacky to hit people with "gotcha" questions on an occasion like this.

BeyondGeography

(41,101 posts)
28. I'm sure we'll be rewarded for our good behavior
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 05:32 AM
Jul 2024

We always do and say the right things in these situations. Right before a ton of shit gets dumped on our heads.

Not being critical at all; civilized behavior comes naturally to our leaders. Would that there was a bigger audience for civilization in our country.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
35. Their actions make it seem as if this was all planned
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 05:48 AM
Jul 2024

I mean, it was a republican kid with a gun who got enlisted for this foul deed.

For crying out loud...

npk

(3,701 posts)
45. All this has woken Alex Jones up
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 10:53 AM
Jul 2024

He has been ranting on twitter since last night. You would think something like this would calm them down, make them take stock of the crazy and dangerous world that they have helped to create, but oh no they are all ahead full on their conspiracy theories.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
46. Not surprised, but extremely relieved.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 11:25 AM
Jul 2024

The nature of the injury keeps reminding me of Agatha Christie's "A Murder Is Announced." Anyone besides me remember that? "Ears bleed a lot."

pwb

(12,669 posts)
50. I was out around people all morning today and
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 12:18 PM
Jul 2024

not one person mentioned the shooting. Not much sympathy out there

BlueKota

(5,345 posts)
57. Are the press corp still including the facts that he is a registered
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 12:36 PM
Jul 2024

Republican gun lover or are they just mentioning the Act Blue donation now?

Response to madaboutharry (Original post)

RVN VET71

(3,192 posts)
73. Not mature adults ever, not decent or honorable,
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 03:54 PM
Jul 2024

cold hearted liars, devoid of all humanity, racist, misogynist, hypocritical vermin tainting the very blood of our declining republic -- yes, vermin, chancre lesions on the American body politic. The Dems have to counter their coming mendacious spews loudly, aggressively, and non-stop. "Jasmin-Crocket" the foul, vicious animals often and everywhere. Aim righteous vitriol at specific people as well as at the sh-t stick movement and its sh-t stick supporters.

Just a thought.

MFM008

(20,042 posts)
74. My dad told me
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 04:03 PM
Jul 2024

Even after 25 years in the USAF,
Americans were the stupidest people on Earth.
Dear old dad.😢

barbtries

(31,308 posts)
76. An innocent bystander was killed.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 04:26 PM
Jul 2024

has any republican said one word about him?

my son just called me to see how i was about this. i went off for about 20 minutes or so and gave him and his wife a little history lesson about 911, gw and dick cheney, PNAC, and how the war in iraq was started. the thing i wanted to let him know the most was that all the bullshit was KNOWN to be bullshit. I knew it was bullshit then. Others knew - not enough apparently to stop the travesty that ensued.

remember the mushroom shaped clouds? remember the "fight them there so we don't have to fight them here?" propaganda, fucking lies. this is what is destroying the US.

i'm just tied up in knots over this and the abject failure of corporate and mainstream media at this moment in the history of a democracy.

Linda ladeewolf

(1,138 posts)
77. Go fund me
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 05:25 PM
Jul 2024

Go fund who? How many here think that somehow some way that go fund me will line trumps pocket? Hands. I am sure the victims families will happily donate the whole thing to trumps campaign.

louis-t

(24,618 posts)
81. Do you think any maga will believe the shooter is a Republican?
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 09:03 PM
Jul 2024

Registered Republican about to vote in his first presidential election. The media is saying "Yeah but he donated to some liberal cause". No, someone with the same name donated to a liberal cause before this kid was old enough to. Guess which statement the maga media will latch onto. Maybe if tsf paid his bills for extra city police protection they would do a better job.

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