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"A loner who was bullied relentlessly " (CBS) (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2024 OP
Where have we heard this before? Ocelot II Jul 2024 #1
Typical mass shooter profile. LisaL Jul 2024 #3
In America, we call those facilities high schools. musicblind Jul 2024 #17
next up: neighbors describe him as "quiet". ret5hd Jul 2024 #2
Quiet but kind of weird. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #5
i sometimes go outside just to yell at people... ret5hd Jul 2024 #6
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2024 #4
Of course. MineralMan Jul 2024 #7
Potentially ASD-- would not be surprised to hear he was on the ASD spectrum andym Jul 2024 #8
Parents are democrats and one is a psychologist who had an AR around a mentally ill kid? mzmolly Jul 2024 #10
According to some sources the shooters parents were registered Republicans mzmolly Jul 2024 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author mzmolly Jul 2024 #20
Boys have always been bullied BeyondGeography Jul 2024 #9
Tell.me.when that was Ontheboundry Jul 2024 #11
How old are you? BeyondGeography Jul 2024 #12
You said firearms Ontheboundry Jul 2024 #13
Absolutely true - my dad taught us how to shoot TBF Jul 2024 #19
Im from Appalachia Ontheboundry Jul 2024 #22
I wonder if he saw Trump as a bully. TheBlackAdder Jul 2024 #14
Edited: I was wrong. phylny Jul 2024 #15
Trump is the most visible well-known bully in the public sphere: perhaps why he was targeted andym Jul 2024 #16
So he was 'Be Bested' tenderfoot Jul 2024 #18
Seem like a suicide mission because he was bullied at school Quixote1818 Jul 2024 #21
I was a loner in High School and usually quiet. Xolodno Jul 2024 #24

Ocelot II

(120,001 posts)
1. Where have we heard this before?
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 01:16 PM
Jul 2024

It's like these guys are cloned somewhere in a bullied loner incel factory.

ret5hd

(21,305 posts)
6. i sometimes go outside just to yell at people...
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 01:34 PM
Jul 2024

so no one describes me as quiet.

now i have to worry about weird too.

dammit.

H2O Man

(75,210 posts)
4. Recommended.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 01:30 PM
Jul 2024

There is at least one in every town. Most don't kill people. Some become school shooters. Others have other targets.

andym

(5,603 posts)
8. Potentially ASD-- would not be surprised to hear he was on the ASD spectrum
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 01:46 PM
Jul 2024

Such kids are often bullied for being considered "weird". Interestingly his father is a psychologist, who would have recognized that. Both parents are reported to be Democrats btw, which probably explains the Act Blue contribution from the 17 year old living at home. Kid is reported to have had a falling out with his father a year later at age 18 which resulted in him leaving the family home. He broke with his parents politics to become a Republican around that time as he went first to live with his grandparents and then on his own as officially an adult. Kid almost certainly not well mentally.

Source is spanish tabloid: Marca.com
https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/us-news/presidential-election/2024/07/14/6693d31a268e3e414c8b458f.html

mzmolly

(51,496 posts)
10. Parents are democrats and one is a psychologist who had an AR around a mentally ill kid?
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 02:30 PM
Jul 2024

Odd if true.

Response to andym (Reply #8)

Ontheboundry

(234 posts)
13. You said firearms
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 03:24 PM
Jul 2024

Im.plenty old enough to know I saw Kids in high school with shotguns in trucks l, and I'm from Appalachia and know nearly every single boy has a .22 single shot for squirrel/rabbit hunting by the age of ten

Firearms have always been readily available

TBF

(33,972 posts)
19. Absolutely true - my dad taught us how to shoot
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 04:14 PM
Jul 2024

first with bb guns and then shotguns (well my brother did that, I wasn't really interested). But my brother was also not unstable or a loner. Did a great job on the gun safety course my dad made him take in our county (we were in the rural midwest)

But shotguns are different from AR-15's. I'm not convinced everyone needs high-power weapons to hunt/guard their homes. Up close you can do a lot of damage with a shotgun, and pistols are easier to use in tight spaces.

Ontheboundry

(234 posts)
22. Im from Appalachia
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 04:31 PM
Jul 2024

Born and raised,.six years in the infantry

Guns in this area are generally respected because this has been taught by the generation before us.

I know this is not everywhere,.but here they policed themselves in the form of parental teaching and thrashings if that didn't work lol

andym

(5,603 posts)
16. Trump is the most visible well-known bully in the public sphere: perhaps why he was targeted
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 03:46 PM
Jul 2024

constantly attacking, mocking and belittling everyone from McCain to the disabled. Perhaps the kid was trying to strike Trump as a symbol of the biggest bully out there. In some ways Trump is the model for modern day bullies in America.

Quixote1818

(30,128 posts)
21. Seem like a suicide mission because he was bullied at school
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 04:30 PM
Jul 2024

The fact that he had graduated two years earlier is irrelevant. He was traumatized from being bullied. The Aztec HS shooting in New Mexico a few years ago was a boy who had graduated three years earlier and went back to the HS and killed two kids before being killed. Bullying in school scars kids for life.

Seems this kid wanted to kill himself by killing someone important so everyone would know who he was. Just like most of these types of shootings. I doubt this was political in nature.

I suspected as much last night with this post: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219151386

Xolodno

(6,653 posts)
24. I was a loner in High School and usually quiet.
Sun Jul 14, 2024, 05:13 PM
Jul 2024

Except with the D&D group I hung out with. Was never messed with (and neither were them when they were with me), but of course I was six ft. and my father ran a construction company and would drag me out of bed on Saturdays, holidays, etc. as free labor so I was very muscular as well. I was tossing 100 pound kegs of tar at 14. So that may have had something to do with it.

Was also very socially dense, looking back I often think, "oh, she was flirting with me".

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