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imanamerican63

(16,405 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 06:38 AM Jul 2024

Trump says that he tore up his speech and will take .......

a softer approach, citing a strong message of unity.

I just don’t see that happening? Especially after 9 years of hate filled rhetoric and pathetic behavior along with many lies. Ever since he came down the escalator, he has been in a constant state of denial and has never been able to speak the truth.

Call me naive but he is not one to change his words! He blames others and the arrogance is going to be over the top. He might sound somber in the beginning, but once he is gets going? He will go back to his original form.

As he says “WE WILL TO SEE”?


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Trump says that he tore up his speech and will take ....... (Original Post) imanamerican63 Jul 2024 OP
Problem is lots more people will be watching him and he knows how to hypnotize the masses. he's mucifer Jul 2024 #1
What's that saying bdamomma Jul 2024 #2
And no disrespects to spots either, right? GreenWave Jul 2024 #10
Aww...... bdamomma Jul 2024 #13
Just claudette Jul 2024 #3
Oh, yeah. We need a kinder, softer dictator. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jul 2024 #35
No claudette Jul 2024 #43
It's just another schtick for him. Tell the people what they want to hear. In the background he's Vinca Jul 2024 #4
Are you sure? claudette Jul 2024 #6
As they hauled him away he had his fist in the air and was yelling "fight, fight, fight." Vinca Jul 2024 #17
So? claudette Jul 2024 #23
To me, it's a mistake to apply rational to a mentally compromised individual. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #28
He may have claudette Jul 2024 #44
I am sorry but this is beyond naive. edisdead Jul 2024 #33
It's naive? claudette Jul 2024 #45
The cultists who dominate the convention don't want Deminpenn Jul 2024 #24
Trump will be reading a prepared script off of a teleprompter. Cattledog Jul 2024 #5
This. They won't be his words. Funtatlaguy Jul 2024 #18
You have to understand his words in his own terms. DFW Jul 2024 #7
Con man always conning Emile Jul 2024 #8
Trump will be having some serious PTSD issues that will be mixed up with denials. Eyeball_Kid Jul 2024 #37
Oh, I can see him changing his rhetoric. Baitball Blogger Jul 2024 #9
Even he can see his tired schtick isn't having the same affect anymore. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #11
There is only one reason he would say MOMFUDSKI Jul 2024 #12
There is another reason, gab13by13 Jul 2024 #14
A new line of bullshit BoRaGard Jul 2024 #15
Trump is incapable of behaving civilly Quiet Em Jul 2024 #16
True, true and all the time.....true! machoneman Jul 2024 #27
He changed course and decided to let Nikki Haley speak Shrek Jul 2024 #19
Having Haley speak will allow Magats to claim the theme of unity in the party, gab13by13 Jul 2024 #22
He WILL change his theme to a unity theme......100 % guaranteed Red Mountain Jul 2024 #20
Oh, so we'll no longer be "marxist, fascist, degenerate scum killing babies after their born...and maxrandb Jul 2024 #21
Folks, batten down, this is going to be a rough couple of weeks. lark Jul 2024 #25
Agreed. They were never going to actually do the Nazi salute onstage. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #34
Bible Study taught me about The Great Deception BoRaGard Jul 2024 #26
Ah, messages of Strong National Unity, what could possibly go wrong? 0rganism Jul 2024 #29
Yeah. National Unity. Now let's move on to Project 2025. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jul 2024 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Jul 2024 #30
He knows the election is not in the bag so he is trying a different tactic. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #31
And we wonder why so many people are saying the entire thing was staged ecstatic Jul 2024 #32
So... Trump can't be trusted? Hmm.... Eyeball_Kid Jul 2024 #42
I don't see getting wounded as something that will change trump's personality... Wounded Bear Jul 2024 #36
I'll be amazed if he doesn't reprise his "Fight! Fight! Fight!" schtick and clenched fist Emrys Jul 2024 #38
Um, yeah right. He's a malignant narcissist pathological liar. It's hardwired. He's not changing anything. He's sick. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #39
He never wrote a speech in his miserable life. spanone Jul 2024 #41
The MAGA base 8snt interested in unity Mountainguy Jul 2024 #46
If he does, his cult won't tolerate it. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #47

mucifer

(25,729 posts)
1. Problem is lots more people will be watching him and he knows how to hypnotize the masses. he's
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 06:40 AM
Jul 2024

gonna call himself a god because the bullet almost killed him but didn't.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
3. Just
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 06:48 AM
Jul 2024

give him a chance. He may not have become completely reformed but any improvement is better than none They’ll be plenty an opportunity to criticize him if he lied.

Vinca

(54,330 posts)
4. It's just another schtick for him. Tell the people what they want to hear. In the background he's
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 06:49 AM
Jul 2024

probably telling his violent followers to arm up and get ready to kill us all.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
6. Are you sure?
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 06:50 AM
Jul 2024

Coming close to being killed must certainly have SOME effect on a person. Even him. As much as I can’t stand him.

Vinca

(54,330 posts)
17. As they hauled him away he had his fist in the air and was yelling "fight, fight, fight."
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:26 AM
Jul 2024

The only thing it will matter to Trump is he'll have a new fund-raising ploy and rake in millions from the suckers.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
23. So?
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:57 AM
Jul 2024

That's because he's an arsewhole to yell "fight, fight, fight!" Getting shot is not something one experiences without SOME effect.

58Sunliner

(6,411 posts)
28. To me, it's a mistake to apply rational to a mentally compromised individual.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:23 AM
Jul 2024

Trump was golfing the next day. Many of us would not feel safe.

Deminpenn

(17,580 posts)
24. The cultists who dominate the convention don't want
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:57 AM
Jul 2024

a unity speech, they want the hate and grievance filled rhetoric.

Cattledog

(6,668 posts)
5. Trump will be reading a prepared script off of a teleprompter.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 06:49 AM
Jul 2024

He will play the martyr and leave the attacks to others...for now.

DFW

(60,429 posts)
7. You have to understand his words in his own terms.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 06:53 AM
Jul 2024

So now he will tell his followers to come at us with handguns and baseball bats instead of assault rifles.

THAT is a Trump “softer approach.”

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
37. Trump will be having some serious PTSD issues that will be mixed up with denials.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:45 AM
Jul 2024

Does he realize that he was an inch away from getting his head blown off? And he's golfing the next day? This is not the sign of a courageous person. It's the sign of serious disturbance. It's also an indication that he's consciously learned NOTHING from the incident, except that he'll take advantage of the sympathy that his fans feel for him. Translation: MONEY.

Baitball Blogger

(52,714 posts)
9. Oh, I can see him changing his rhetoric.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 06:54 AM
Jul 2024

There was dissension within the Republican party. i.e. There was the group that wanted to tone down the anti-abortion position, at least up to the election, because they know it guarantees that the other side will vote against them.

They know they have gone too far and have lost the Independents. Now they're going to reel it back in and say things they don't really mean. GW did the same thing, and people thought he was going to govern from the center. He faked them all. So will Trump.

 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
12. There is only one reason he would say
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:05 AM
Jul 2024

sometimes like this. They know they are losing the election AGAIN. All bolony. A leopard doesn’t change its spots. But nice try clown guy. Pfffft

gab13by13

(32,761 posts)
14. There is another reason,
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:20 AM
Jul 2024

Magats are pushing the notion that both sides need to tone down the rhetoric, so when Democrats say that voting for TSF will end our democracy that will be considered hate speech, terroristic. TSF is saying tone it down to any criticism that he gets from Democrats.

This has nothing to do with him actually toning anything down, he figures the MSM will allow him to continue his rhetoric while attacking Democrats who say anything at all bad about him.

Thinking that TSF learned a lesson is a giant leap of faith. As they were dragging him off the stage he was fist pumping and yelling "fight" "fight."

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
15. A new line of bullshit
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:21 AM
Jul 2024

They are trying to hide Project 2025 -- and so will continue to lie about it, try to get voters to look elsewhere.

But it's all a lie. As usual.

Quiet Em

(3,014 posts)
16. Trump is incapable of behaving civilly
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:24 AM
Jul 2024

He is incapable of speaking without insulting, offending, demeaning or saying something crazy.

Not sure why the media believes they can wipe his slate clean and start over because it simply won't happen.

Shrek

(4,462 posts)
19. He changed course and decided to let Nikki Haley speak
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:30 AM
Jul 2024

So apparently there's been a strategic decision of some kind.

I wonder if that combined with some measure of tone-softening is an attempt to reach whatever fence-sitters are left (though I can't believe there are very many).

gab13by13

(32,761 posts)
22. Having Haley speak will allow Magats to claim the theme of unity in the party,
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:39 AM
Jul 2024

Magats want never Trumpers to come back.

Red Mountain

(2,380 posts)
20. He WILL change his theme to a unity theme......100 % guaranteed
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:33 AM
Jul 2024

Unity under Trump who is the only one who can save you. From, you know, bad things.

He's going to get a lot more messianic. Believe in him and you will be saved.

maxrandb

(17,498 posts)
21. Oh, so we'll no longer be "marxist, fascist, degenerate scum killing babies after their born...and
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:39 AM
Jul 2024

(checks notes) who need killing"???

Is he no longer calling for "military tribunals" for his critics?

Is he ready to accept the legal verdicts juries and judges have convicted him of?

Fuck him!

He promoted, encouraged, enabled, excused and glorified political violence from the day he was fucking hatched from his lizard egg. His fucked up psychopathic family groomed him from infancy to be a fucking psychopath.

If anyone thinks he's fucking sincere about anything he says, somewhere, there is a fly with no wings that would like to have a word with you.

lark

(26,113 posts)
25. Folks, batten down, this is going to be a rough couple of weeks.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:16 AM
Jul 2024

tcf will get a bump from the convention, it always, always happens and we will be subjected to lots of incomprehensively stupid ideas. It's going to be torture, especially with all the rw ads that will be foisted on us. Things change! By August, his bump will be over, he will be back to the screaming, raging lunatic he is at heart and then the Dems can have a great convention and flip the script.

58Sunliner

(6,411 posts)
34. Agreed. They were never going to actually do the Nazi salute onstage.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:36 AM
Jul 2024

They will get a bump.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
26. Bible Study taught me about The Great Deception
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:19 AM
Jul 2024

The G.O.P. has opened wide, and swallowed the whole load.

Tragic.

0rganism

(25,713 posts)
29. Ah, messages of Strong National Unity, what could possibly go wrong?
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:25 AM
Jul 2024

Let us not concern ourselves with such trivial differences such as the fate of democracy and the rights of various humans. No, we must bind ourselves together in an unshakable national fabric, uniting under a singular strong leader to cast out the impure vermin from our Great country!

Damn that second TSF term is gonna su-uck.

Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

58Sunliner

(6,411 posts)
31. He knows the election is not in the bag so he is trying a different tactic.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:33 AM
Jul 2024

He can't tell the truth so it will be a lie. What he is going for is a lie that can't be readily proved, and the media to give him the benefit of the doubt. Lot's of ways this could play out.

ecstatic

(35,135 posts)
32. And we wonder why so many people are saying the entire thing was staged
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:34 AM
Jul 2024

I have a very hard time believing this new kinder, softer tRump thing.

It's just a ploy to get more ratings.

Wounded Bear

(64,628 posts)
36. I don't see getting wounded as something that will change trump's personality...
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:44 AM
Jul 2024

and lightly wounded at that. Maybe if he was put in a coma for a few weeks by the incident, but after that event any "changes" he makes to his speeches will be more fakery IMHO. Someone who has been a con man his entire life seldom reforms, he just finds a new con.

Let him show a "softer, kinder side." It'll piss off his minions and it won't convince me to vote against him.

Emrys

(9,205 posts)
38. I'll be amazed if he doesn't reprise his "Fight! Fight! Fight!" schtick and clenched fist
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:49 AM
Jul 2024

The (inadvertent?) Nazi salute that followed may get cut.

 

Deek1935

(1,055 posts)
39. Um, yeah right. He's a malignant narcissist pathological liar. It's hardwired. He's not changing anything. He's sick.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:50 AM
Jul 2024

Ms. Toad

(38,818 posts)
47. If he does, his cult won't tolerate it.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 10:34 AM
Jul 2024

And he'll soon be back to normal (at least to what is normal for him).

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