I very well might be wrong but somethings about the Trump shooting seem odd to me

[Botany]

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From the what seems to be a choreographed moment of Trump raising his fist and now it is his go to move which the cable news media seems to like to point out, the packaging of “a new Trump” who is a fighter, just last week Trump was talking about all his “beautiful scars,” how nobody spotted the shooter on the roof which should have been locked down and or secured before Trump came out, and where is the devoted wife, Melania?

Again I might be wrong but something about this whole thing sets off my spidey senses. I don’t think
everything is as it appears.

I might be wrong.

[doc03]

1. A friend of mine that passed away a couple months ago always said if

Trump wins the election the CIA will take him out. I have always thought and still do JFK was an
inside job. We don't know what we don't know.

[birdographer]

34. As far as this goes

I am pretty sure there would be a lot of concern over this madman having nuclear launch codes. If they don't just eliminate him, they would probably give him false codes and take him out when he tries to use them. My god, I would certainly hope so.

[whathehell]

63. He had the nuclear codes in his first term..

My understanding of detonating nuclear weapons is that it requires at least two people - not just the president -- to sign off on it.

[RobinA]

84. Oh, Well That

makes me feel better!

[whathehell]

99. Lol..No one's trying to make you "feel better"

Simply informing the poster that the scenario they fearfully anticipate has already happened...Just sayin'.

[Ms. Toad]

70. Same thing people said last time.

It doesn't work that way. If we're stupid enough to give him a second term, it comes with all the power every other president has.

There is no deep state government or handlers who give him selective power, or withhold things from him that he might do damage with.

[Bluethroughu]

73. One thing I know, is we have a King out of the full immunity SCOTUS ruling.

Trump being assassinated, means nothing when he could be replaced by worse.

We need Biden to be re-elected so we can fix what the 6 on this court has done to our Constitution. That IS what this election is about.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. And a month or so ago

The specific use of the term "bloodbath" in speeches.

This has an orchestrated feel to it.

[gab13by13]

4. Right before the Magat convention and in Pa.

After the shooting I was watching the Pirate baseball game and TSF and McCormick campaign ads were non-stop.

There is no doubt in my mind that TSF is gunning for Pa. Thankful that we have Shapiro as governor.

[FBaggins]

11. Of course he's targeting PA

It’s the widely-accepted key to the entire election. We can lose GA/AZ/NV and still win if we hold the state… but there are few paths to victory if we lost there.

Are you speculating that Shapiro gets onto the ballot? Because we’ve trailed in every PA poll that I’ve seen

[doc03]

39. I watched a David Packman video here on DU last night, he said

Trump was up 7 points in PA, that sounded impossible, but he is in the margin of error in Michigan and Wisconsin.

[Fiendish Thingy]

23. The aftermath is indeed orchestrated

But to claim the assassination attempt was orchestrated is evidence free CT on steroids,

[bucolic_frolic]

25. That's a matter of opinion until facts are fully known, and they are investigating.

[Fiendish Thingy]

29. There's no grassy knoll in this story. Nt

[Hope22]

47. How do you explain the rooftop in direct line of site being unguarded? N/t

[littlemissmartypants]

68. Hubris and stupidity. His trademark and his calling card. ❤️ NT

[PatSeg]

42. Yes, I'm inclined to agree with you

With all of Trump's over-the-top rhetoric, I think it was inevitable that he would eventually be a target for some unhinged lone wolf shooter.

Such crazed shooters are so much a part of American life in the 21st century, it would be more surprising if no one made such an attempt during campaign season. And we have no idea how many attempts have been thwarted by the FBI and/or the Secret Service.

[jaxexpat]

57. Taking advantage of calamity is a GOP trademark.

That's why they specialize in mis-government. I already don't recognize my country. Especially when comparing it to pre-W days. It's a bit depressing, really. We boomers have rested on our laurels for too long, victimized by the stubborn short sightedness of our parents. We don't trust our children and grandchildren to handle the responsibility of power so we, like our parents, stubbornly cling to the reins.

[OLDMDDEM]

54. Yes, it does.

[malaise]

97. Way to neat

The timing is also impeccable

[gab13by13]

3. Why aren't we allowed to know where they took TSF after his ear began bleeding?

One of my daughter's best friends is an ER doctor at the Butler hospital, he didn't go there where everything would have to be documented.

Will I get in trouble if I say I don't trust Chris Wray to give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

I still remember the JFK medical report being a bit off.

[FBaggins]

12. The hospital has been reported

Including video of him leaving later on

[Fiendish Thingy]

21. We know

Maybe you missed that report.

[BumRushDaShow]

32. Butler Memorial

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/donald-trump-butler-memorial-hospital-rally-shooting/

[58Sunliner]

5. Melania is patting herself on the back.

[Ray Bruns]

19. Why? The shooter missed.

[58Sunliner]

24. Because she wasn't there.

[machoneman]

37. Melania is pissed he missed.......

[thesquanderer]

61. The same back that says, "I really don't care, do you?" (n/t)

[GoCubsGo]

6. Yeah, it all reeks.

Just the fact that that motherfucker was out playing golf the next day, after a supposed attempt on his life, stinks to high heaven.

[birdographer]

36. Yep

This is not behavior of a person whose life was threatened the day before, unless he knew it never was threatened. He is such a huge coward. I have read that the reason for the small ketchup bottles is so he can freshly open each one, insuring they are not poisoned. Same with cans of Diet Coke--never opened ahead of time. He is supposedly terrified of assassination...and now this?

[PatSeg]

44. We are talking about Donald Trump however

He is not a normal person with normal reactions, though inside I think he really is terrified.

[allegorical oracle]

94. Bullies like tfg usually are frightened people. They tend to adopt

an "I'll get you before you get me" attitude. He long ago abandoned a conscience, imho.

[PatSeg]

98. Yes, if he ever had one

Though I suppose it is possible maybe he did have a conscience when he was very young.

I agree, bullies tend to be frightened people and bullying is a defensive mechanism.

[TommieMommy]

7. Smells 🤔

I really believe this whole thing was staged so he can play this up for sympathy, I don't trust them at all. I'm disgusted with the other side.

[japple]

10. That pause for the photo op with the flag waving in the background and the bit

about him telling them to get his shoe was odd, in my opinion.

[Diamond_Dog]

41. He needed his shoes with the lifts

So as not to be seen walking in just his socks and appearing as his normal height. Remember everything about him is optics, even when in a medical emergency. So vain.

[Hope22]

49. If he's thinking about optics in a life threatening moment...

….well that is one for the head doctor.

[Conjuay]

31. Staged so he can walk

Into the convention the brave and patriotic hero we all know he isn't.

[thesquanderer]

66. Staging of a close call would not require firing live rounds into the nearby crowd...

...and thereby also risking Trump being anywhere near a stray real bullet. Nope, staging makes no sense.

[sop]

8. JFK's assassination is still being debated today, DJT's ear assassination will also be the source of many CTs.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I, too, believe there's something odd about this Trump shooting.

[Hope22]

51. Your comment brings up an interesting question.

Why do they need to be called CT’s? At some point everything is a theory. IMO the term CT at this stage of the game when zero reports are in is a slam against a differing opinion. There is a lot of that here but time will tell. At any rate this incident is very convenient for TSF’s campaign.

[sop]

60. I understand your point, they're all just theories, it doesn't have to be a conspiracy.

When these things happen people start looking for reasons and motivations, trying to explain and make sense of it all. Some folks tend to see snakes behind every blade of grass.

[Hope22]

64. Lol! Lots of snakes out there!🤣😂🤣

In the end we could wait and have them tell us the story they want us to hear. Like in the olden days. The story of Jesus. The story of David and Goliath! The story of mommy dying after six babies, no healthcare, no future.

[Kid Berwyn]

9. They are looking for the spark that starts the raging fire.

It reminded me of 9-11, where the networks played that clip of the planes flying into the WTC over and over. By the time they were done, most of the country thought Saddam Hussein and Iraq were responsible.

Trump looks now, per Dana Perino, like a “warrior pee-resident.”

This all stinks of NAZI bastards.

[brush]

13. You're not wrong. Some entity wanted him taken out.

And IMO the Secret Service seems complicit as they let a 20-yeat-old get a high vantage point with a clear sight line to the podium...I repeat, a 20-yeat-old, with a Secret Service sniper ready to take him out as soon as trump was shot.

And they took the shooter out, but he missed trump, barely.

Very suspicious.

[AllyCat]

75. And some in the crowd knew he was there and reported him to police

Police climbed up on the roof and were Uvalde-ed away by the shooter. No one warned SS?

Within an hour of this happening Saturday night, there were reports that he had posted “Justice is coming” on SM. Then all was scrubbed. “He had little social media presence which is odd for a person his age”. Am I imagining that happened?

[brush]

78. Just one thing, seems the SS knew he was there and had their own sniper's....

rifle trained on him to take him out as soon as he shot at trump.

And they did. He was shut up permanently. No ID on the body but they sure IDed him quickly somehow.

Complicit?
Very suspicious.

[AllyCat]

80. When the cop went up there and the nut pointed his

Killing mechanism at him…why didn’t SS shoot then?

[brush]

82. He hadn't shot yet. Pretty obvious to me.

As soon as he shot though, they took him out and it seems, shut him up so he couldn't reveal who backed him and arranged for him to get the vantage point.

IMO it's Lee Harvey Oswald 2.0, but even better as there was no temporary escape to a movie theater as Oswald did. No Jack Ruby needed

They made sure he was not to survive that shooting and have a chance to divulge any information.

He missed trump though...barely.

I don't see how whoever set the kid up, can try again. Opportunity missed.

American hasn't changed much. When was the last political assassination attempt, Reagan in 1980? I doubt this one will be the last. Too many guns out there, easily accessible
by gun nuts or professional assassins.

It's violent America, awash with guns.

[AllyCat]

85. But why wait? Since when do we wait to shoot based on law?

The freak pointed his gun in the direction of a cop. Who WAITS to shoot back? No one. Cops shoot back ALL THE TIME if someone so much as has a cell phone in their hand.

The cop or SS would have taken him out in an instant. In a real unknown, that’s what they would have done. Why even let a guy get that close? They knew he was there pointing a weapon at the felon.

This was a real shooting, but huge swaths of the current story do not add up to just a loner white man with daddy’s gun.

[brush]

88. I don't buy the loner, white guy gun nut story. Too neat and wrapped up, end of story.

No. IMO someone arranged for that kid to get that high vantage point with a direct line of sight to the podium.

As for the cop, he was climbing up the ladder and had to use his hands do they were't free to use his gun or cell phone when the gunman threatened him with his weapon. The shooting happen soon after that then the SS took him out.

IMO they knew he was there and just waited for him to shoot.

He missed though. They didn't.

[samnsara]

14. im of the opinion that it is what it was..a shooting by an unstable, bullied youth

..who was hell bent on violence SOMEWHERE and thank gawd it wasnt a school....

trumps rally just happened to be convenient.

Im sure he anticipated the outcome as well...

this will not be the last attempt on trumps life..

[AllyCat]

76. I think this guy was a stupid, entitled little white boy

With a gun. But I feel some knew he was there and figured out how to use it for political gain. That’s the aftermath part.

[Omnipresent]

15. I don't believe it was planned.

People were injured and killed, along with the gunman.
Convict got the taste of domestic gun violence, that almost ended his life.
Luckily, the bullet didn’t hit him, because the teleprompter got hit instead, and the glass from it sliced his ear.

[Quakerfriend]

35. Yes, I believe that we're not getting a medical report

because TFG wants everyone to believe that he took a bullet. -Seems more likely that it was a shard of glass.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

83. It wasn't likely glass from the teleprompter

Multiple pictures show the teleprompters undamaged. The glass they are made of are tempered. If struck with a bullet they would have shattered into pieces. And those pieces would not be sharp. That's the whole point of using tempered glass. For the medical information, the doctors and hospital are bound by HIPAA. They cannot release any information without trumps approval.

[Zeitghost]

90. There are plenty of pics of the teleprompters floating about

They were undamaged.

[mopinko]

16. there r a lot of conspiracy theories out there. but there r, indeed, conspiracies afoot.

they know full well they r gonna get creamed. they knew they were gonna lose in 2020 lonnngggg before the election. j6 planning didnt start in nov. they were planning a military coup early on.

i’ll remind ppl that my nephew was an asst sec def for jsoc. john rood, tsf’s toady, was supposed to b a policy advisor at the pentagon. but he was there picking personnel. my nephew was a hero and a patriot and rood harassed and belittled his to the point that he quit in 18, putting an end to what was literally a storied career.
the movie ‘12 strong’ is based on his actions in afghanistan. the main character is an amalgam of mark and another officer.
i think the 10k troops he asked for on j6 were going to b hand picked to further the coup. THAT’S y milley refused to send them.

i wouldnt put anything passed him.

[suegeo]

48. RAGA met in October 2020

The Republican Attorney's General Association met in Sept or Oct and conspired about the upcoming election.
Prep work had to have begun in July or August.

The same organization sent out robocalls urging the mob to march on the Capitol before or on Jan. 6.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/republican-ags-group-sent-robocalls-urging-march-capitol-n1253581

[Joinfortmill]

17. About six months ago, Alex Jones and Ivan Raitlin discussed...

it would be a good idea if Trump was assassinated and the resulting anger could be directed at destroying the so called 'deep state.'

You can't make this shit up, people

[mainer]

28. This is HIGHLY RELEVANT

The ultra-right wants Flynn installed. They're the ones Trump has to watch out for.

[Maggiemayhem]

52. That is about the time his Dad got him the gun

I just say because I have seen what Alex Jones worship does to people. He is a cult leader also

[SCantiGOP]

74. Yea, all of that is made up

Don’t quote Alex Jones and then say “you can’t make this stuff up.”

[HarryM]

18. You are not the only one

Something is rotten in Denmark

[Fiendish Thingy]

20. Well you didn't really articulate what you might be wrong about

But I think you’re wrong.

[murielm99]

26. Now you are being silly.

But I could be wrong.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. I don't think even tRump would put himself in the sights of a 20 yo shooter. . . .nt

[birdographer]

38. Tend to agree, BUT

that may be giving trump more sense than he has right now. He knows he is going to lose in November and he is desperate for an edge. But this is the one single thing that keeps me from going all in for the theory this is fake. I'm mostly in, though...

[Scrivener7]

58. In the WWF they use tiny razors to make themselves bleed.

[PurgedVoter]

27. Trump is involved in how many conspiracies?

Consider the combination of Jan 6, while spreading it far and wide. They went in saying it was all Antifa and criminal, now they want the criminals free. They had fake Electoral representatives from various states ready to rig the vote. Multiple conspiracies all at the same time.

Consider Russia's help with the elections. Consider all of his fake rip off businesses and fake rip off charities. Every thing Trump does is a conspiracy. It's how he does things. So if you are suspicious, and wonder if something about Trump is fake, you only have to ask what is Trump's weight, height, skin color and what about the wig?

It would be crazy to not suspect a conspiracy. I think the story being told is plausible. If it were anyone but Trump, I might not be suspicious. What I want to know is how many others were hit by glass shards? Seems like the glass would have hit a few others.

[lark]

30. I agree.

Why would he, a famous coward, be insistent on getting his head above the agents after he was scratched by the bullet? He certainly was in a hurry before that to get down and was in no hurry to leave, whining about his freaking shoes and delaying everything. Why would they put the short female in front of him and why did she take it when he pushed her down? Why wasn't that rooftop covered and why did the cops do nothing when the shooter was pointed out? Smelly, smelly, smelly.

[newdayneeded]

33. Somehow they worked it

out that there was a short female ss agent in front of trump, conveniently ducking the whole time. It just looked choreographed to get trumps fist and face framed for a pic.

[BoRaGard]

40. The first, immediate reaction of everyone I know

including me, was that it was a staged fake republican-russian operation.

To have imagined otherwise, after the incessant assault of the Felon's lies and the GOP's relentless Bearing of False Witness, would have been stupid. Hello?

We await evidence now, to see whether our immediate suspicions are valid, or not.

But it speaks volumes that for most people the default assumption is: The freaking twisted republican soul--in league with their Evil Empire Moscow Comrades--are perpetrating yet another FuKKK the truth and American Democracy sleazebag maneuver.

[Farmer-Rick]

43. Sometimes a coincidence is just a coincidence

I thought it might have been a badly planned fake assassination attempt at first. Until the dead and injured were identified.

If it had been planned, I doubt those MAGA supporters would have been killed and seriously injured. The shooter would not have been killed but captured alive.

Pedo Trump uses stochastic terrorism regularly. It is notoriously unpredictable. The pedo just found out how unpredictable stochastic terrorism really is.

[geardaddy]

86. I agree for the most part with your analysis, except

I think not capturing the shooter alive makes it easier to determine what his actual motivations were.

[Pikim]

45. Maybe.......just maybe

the shooter wasn't out to kill Trump but Corey Comperatore.

[Lulu KC]

71. This crossed my mind, too

Though he certainly chose a precarious situation.

[StocktonNative]

46. The "Blacks For Trump" Goons who are always present at Nazy Harvest Rallies

...were not there this day. All of sudden, the Goons decided to call in sick? Weird.

[Windy Apple]

50. Odd thing

…is that there isn’t ANY blood on his shirt collar right next to his bloody ear wound. It seems to have self healed immediately

[Nevilledog]

91. And where did they terrycloth towel come from? Why wasn't the blood smeared?

[bluestarone]

53. I want to say thet you are 100% wrong.

But i can't. People just get a feeling something is not right. With no explanation i'm right there with you.

[Wingus Dingus]

55. I accept that events unfolded as they did, but yeah... it's kind of hard to believe.

[Scrivener7]

56. I completely agree.

[Wounded Bear]

59. Easy to feel that way given that everything about trump is faked...nt

[Diraven]

62. Too much of a conspiracy theory

I think the only things that smell are:
1. Trump himself brought this on himself with his constant violent rhetoric, but much of the media are dutifully parroting Republicans that Democrats are really at fault for demonizing him.
2. Much of the media is trying to retell the whole event as a thriller where Trump is now the patriotic hero.

So if anything stinks it's the media going for entertainment ratings instead of just reporting the facts.

[BradBo]

65. I think Trump just got lucky, you can't shoot an AR15 from distance and be accurate.

The kid just found a soft spot and opened fire. The bigger discussion should be gun control and mental health.

[thesquanderer]

67. Melania's response...

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/politics/melania-trump-statement-after-rally-shooting/index.html

(though who knows who really wrote that for her...)

[yellerpup]

69. I'm taken by the fact that TFG had no blood on his hands

after he grabbed his ear. The blood on his face was dry when he stood up, and no one was watching for another head-shot as he pumped his fist. No blood on his hands. This was theatre. I'm a playwright; I know it when I see it.

[people]

87. Standing him up . . .

From what I remember of the video they yelled that the shooter was down before they stood him up.

[SCantiGOP]

72. There would only have to be a hundred or so people

that were in on the scheme. Dozens of law enforcement personnel violating their oath of office and risking jail and disgrace for a performance where innocent people die. And hundreds more behind the scenes - for what purpose?
And not one person steps forward with proof of this farce.
Why are people so willing to believe these conspiratorial fantasies?

[Botany]

79. As I said I might be wrong

N/t

[SCantiGOP]

92. So why post it?

Do we really need non-factual speculation that fits the definition of conspiracy theories?

[Botany]

95. Is anything I posted not true?

N/t

[Dave Bowman]

81. "Three May Keep a Secret if Two are Dead"

[Blue Owl]

77. Once again the M$M helps Donny fail upward

[iemanja]

89. He took advantage of the incident

He didn't deliberately take a shot for a photo op.

[Emile]

93. The sick fuc. went golfing the next morning.

[ffr]

96. Does anyone else feel like they're living through a real life WWE World Wrestling Entertainment show?

What could be more perfect than the guy who did WWE rehersing for 12 days away from the public for the main event, a choreographed assassination attempt, which is almost unheard of in the US. I don't buy it for one minute this is real at all. It's reasonable to ask questions, especially when it concerns a world famous known con man.

I want to know the shooter's line of site. I want to know where the (rubber) bullet angles were and specifically the resulting one that supposedly hit his ear. I want to see an accounting of all of the bullets. Was one of them missing or a blank or rubber, while the others were not? I want the shooters phone records, computer forensically searched and his text messages. I want to know where he was within the last month. Was he contacted by the Trump Campaign. Is he a zealot, more than just a conservative republican with a gun? Why would a republican gun owner shoot at his own leader? This makes no sense!!!

MAGAts are fanatics. One of them taking one for the team, for a chance at instilling TSF as dictator for life, is completely plausible.

Donald Trump Shooting Conspiracy Theories Erupt: 'Staged'

"This is the most staged s*** I've ever seen. An active shooter and Secret Service just allows him to stand back up for a fist up?! The crowd just sits back down?? Crowd just smiles and takes pictures??"

"Nothing has ever been more staged, pushing off Secret Service who are much stronger than him to put a fist in the air for the cameras. This is not a marvel movie, you are not Iron Man."

"They staged that and he bladed when they jumped on him. I'm familiar with this WWE a** script."

"They tryna get Trump a face redemption ark so everyone roots for him I see thru it." - Newsweek