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thisaintright

(17 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:24 AM Jul 2024

Did anyone else notice the crowd's reaction, or lack thereof...

Really bizarre to me that the natural human reaction when hearing gun shots and seeing someone on a stage react to said gunshots is to drop and run as fast as possible...

Nobody moved behind the stage...not a single one...didn't drop to the floor, didn't fall over each other to get the hell out of there...nothing...

Doesn't that seem strange?

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Did anyone else notice the crowd's reaction, or lack thereof... (Original Post) thisaintright Jul 2024 OP
You mean in the movies? FBaggins Jul 2024 #1
How fast would you react? bucolic_frolic Jul 2024 #2
They had no place to go. Packed into the bleachers Emile Jul 2024 #3
Yes and I suspect it's going to get harder tanyev Jul 2024 #9
Convicts crowd sizes will now get smaller... Omnipresent Jul 2024 #4
People generally react very slowly to things like this without some kind of training or prior knowledge. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2024 #5
They're not the sharpest bunch.... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #6
The immediate reaction should be to remove yourself from the line of fire. magicarpet Jul 2024 #7
You must have watched a different movie Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #8
Game of Thrones - Season Five - Episode Nine FBaggins Jul 2024 #13
Sometimes it's hard being a member of the reality based community. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #15
Seems it was staged and the crowd was in on it onandup Jul 2024 #10
You must have seen a different video - or didn't watch it at all. TwilightZone Jul 2024 #11
I'm talking about the crowd behind the podium that just heard the shots which whizzed right by them... thisaintright Jul 2024 #12
You don't hear shots "whiz right by you" unless they're inches away FBaggins Jul 2024 #14
They didn't "whizz right by" the people on those bleachers Sympthsical Jul 2024 #16
They're accustomed to flying bullets. NameAlreadyTaken Jul 2024 #17
That's what boiling frogs do. They sit in the pot. LastDemocratInSC Jul 2024 #18
What I think is strange: the reaction as a whole. shrike3 Jul 2024 #19

FBaggins

(28,612 posts)
1. You mean in the movies?
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:27 AM
Jul 2024

These were real humans (republicans… but humans nevertheless) and real gunshots. What natural reaction source are you comparing them to?

bucolic_frolic

(53,669 posts)
2. How fast would you react?
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:30 AM
Jul 2024

It was a very brief moment in time. People were settled in for the speech. It was hot, they were tired.

I though the public's reaction very normal and expected.

tanyev

(48,521 posts)
9. Yes and I suspect it's going to get harder
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:40 AM
Jul 2024

for them to find people willing to sit behind him like that.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,123 posts)
5. People generally react very slowly to things like this without some kind of training or prior knowledge.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:33 AM
Jul 2024

magicarpet

(18,456 posts)
7. The immediate reaction should be to remove yourself from the line of fire.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:37 AM
Jul 2024

Get yourself and your loved ones to a safe zone so you do not become a casualty of the gun fire.

Is the MAGA crowd too hungry for drama ? They did not move a muscle to get to safety. They stood frozen and watched the Secret Service wrestle trDUMP to the floor behind the podium.

Fiendish Thingy

(21,818 posts)
8. You must have watched a different movie
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:38 AM
Jul 2024

The footage I saw, people screamed and dropped to the ground, at least until Trump got back up.

FBaggins

(28,612 posts)
13. Game of Thrones - Season Five - Episode Nine
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:14 AM
Jul 2024

There's a scene in a coliseum (fighting pits of Mereen) where the "Sons of the Harpy" attack and (eventually) a dragon shows up to save Daenerys.

I happen to have just seen it for the second time last week and it's unintentionally hilarious. It's a minutes-long scene and if you ignore the action in front of you and pay attention to the extras in the stands... all they do is run left and right... up and down the stairs... over and over again for about five minutes of screentime.

I remember clips from the 2011 tsunami in Japan. I don't remember any conspiracy theorists telling us "that's not how people run from giant waves!" - because we all know that they run straight down the street in front of them (just like Godzilla or Alien attacks)

thisaintright

(17 posts)
12. I'm talking about the crowd behind the podium that just heard the shots which whizzed right by them...
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:04 AM
Jul 2024

...who doesn't duck and run as a natural reaction...not conspiracy theory-ing here...just seemed really odd to me.

FBaggins

(28,612 posts)
14. You don't hear shots "whiz right by you" unless they're inches away
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:19 AM
Jul 2024

And the report from the shot comes well after the round

You're ignoring that - in the moment - humans don't have the perception that you do after watching the scene on slo-mo twenty-five times. They don't know where the shots are coming from (they often don't know that they are shots at all). Almost everyone got down in the videos I've seen... at which time it isn't clear that there is anywhere safer than where they are (with dozens of armed guards)

Sympthsical

(10,819 posts)
16. They didn't "whizz right by" the people on those bleachers
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:25 AM
Jul 2024

Those people were much farther behind Trump than the camera makes it seem, and the bullets hit the bleachers to the left of Trump. The people behind him were not struck or hearing/seeing bullets land around them.

If you look at additional footage, the people on the bleachers that were in the line of fire were ducked/lying down. They knew right away.

When you're in a crowd and hearing popping sounds, it is not always readily apparent what you're listening to. Because it's an unusual event, the mind doesn't immediately register obvious danger. However, if you're law enforcement or a veteran, etc. you might be quicker to react from experience. You know what you're hearing.

I posted a pic of the layout that might give you a better idea.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219150986

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
19. What I think is strange: the reaction as a whole.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:52 AM
Jul 2024

There are no marches of support for TFG. No crying people outside Mar-a-lago. I'm sure if there had been, I'd have heard about them. I live in a red state. Everyone is going on about their business. Absolutely no one is talking about this. I don't know what to make of it. Have people become that numb?

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