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onandup

(701 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:47 AM Jul 2024

Secret Service says local police were responsible for building where the gunman fired shots from

The building where the gunman fired shots from on Saturday was outside of the designated perimeter of the Trump rally, so it was secured by local law enforcement, not Secret Service agents, said the agency's spokesman, Anthony Gugliemi. There were four counter sniper teams covering the rally, two from the Secret Service and two from local police agencies, he said.


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/14/us/trump-shooting-news-biden
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JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
1. What bullshit. What would a FEDERAL agency responsible for protecting a candidate, leave that
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:50 AM
Jul 2024

responsibility up to local authorities.

Whoever in the SS released that bullshit, is going to have hell to pay.

Prairie Gates

(8,156 posts)
4. Secret Service always liaisons and coordinates protection with local law enforcement
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:54 AM
Jul 2024
The manner in which they do so, and the manner in which they did so in this instance will surely be fodder for extensive review.
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
6. You delegate that. They are responsible for the security lapse, and trying to spin that on a local agency
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:59 AM
Jul 2024

isn't going to cut it, especially in light of some reports alleging that people in various areas were telling the SS about someone on the rooftop, and they seemed to ignore it

Prairie Gates

(8,156 posts)
8. As I said
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:05 AM
Jul 2024

..the manner in which they did so in this instance will surely be fodder for extensive review.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
10. I saw a post here yesterday that said they were former SS.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:14 AM
Jul 2024

They said that local LE would have been responsible for the mid-range.

Prairie Gates

(8,156 posts)
2. "We put Roscoe P. Coltraine in charge of a rooftop 165 yards from Trump"
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:53 AM
Jul 2024

This strikes me as not the best way of defending the actions of the Secret Service.

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
3. I remember reading that a local LEO climbed to the roof but left when Crooks pointed his gun at him.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:53 AM
Jul 2024

I thought that happened several minutes before the shooting. If so, the communication between the local police and the SS was truly awful.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
9. Doesn't strike me as a good strategy
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:07 AM
Jul 2024

on a part of secret service to have such a small perimeter, then.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
11. There was a long Twitter thread that was posted here about this
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:14 AM
Jul 2024

It was by an LEO who has experience with presidential visits. He discussed tiers of protection where the SS is in the close and far tier, but the mid-distance tier was largely local law enforcement. He had thought where the gunman was would be more local responsibility.

It was an interesting read, but I can't find it just at the moment.

But that aside, you'd have to imagine the SS is the overall "buck stops here" in all this. Delegating or not, it's still ultimately their show.

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