Neighbors say shooter had Trump signs in front of his house over the last few years

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Local Pittsburgh News WPXI: Crooks’ motive is still unclear. Records show he is a registered Republican and neighbors today told us that they’ve actually seen Trump signs outside of the home over the last few years


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[dalton99a]

1. Kick

[intrepidity]

2. Could mean his dad was MAGA

And maybe that waa part of the motive?

[sinkingfeeling]

3. I read his dad doesn't live there. Just shooter, his mother, and sister.

[MagickMuffin]

5. I just daddy left behind his precious

And I’m not talking about his kids!

[soandso]

6. Whoever it was

it's obvious he didn't share their opinion!

[JHB]

46. So was Mom a MAGAt? Or him? Or even the sister? Who put the signs up?

Still all guesswork at this point.

[Deminpenn]

23. The dad is reportedly a Libertarian

Mom reportedly a Dem.

[SCantiGOP]

33. That's how they registered

That only means that you can’t vote in other party’s primaries.

[Deminpenn]

48. There's only around 5000 registered Libs in

Allegheny county. You probably have to be a true believer to register as an L. While I think Americans all have a latent libertarian streak, few subscribe to the entire libertarian belief system.

[Warpy]

36. Exactly

What we know specifically about the kid is that he was a shy kid, an outsider, and heavily bullied and thought guns were the answer. We know he died wearing a t-shirt from one of the more pernicious gun & bomb sites on YouTube.

I'm seeing this more as suicide by cop. I have no idea what his attitude toward TFG was, or if he thought about him, at all, except as a means to go out in glory and a hail of bullets.

[DemocraticPatriot]

41. The kid was bullied, and tried to take his "retribution" against

the biggest bully in the country!

i see motive there, if no one else does...

[onlyadream]

58. If school was in session

this may have been a school shooting instead.

[Rhiannon12866]

38. The background report said that his mother is a registered Democrat and his father is a Libertarian

[Orrex]

4. No doubt antifa planted them years ago, to preemptively throw us off the trail

[BannonsLiver]

7. Interesting if true.

There is a small strain of far right loonies who think Trump is too soft or may have supported him at one point but now feel betrayed because the wall wasn’t built, fill in the blank. We could probably sit here all night and come up with hundreds of potential motives, though.

[Think. Again.]

10. There are a lot more rightwingers against trump than they want us to know.

[Bengus81]

62. And we will see their numbers on election day.........n/t

[Think. Again.]

63. Go Joe!!! 🌊 !!!

[rubbersole]

26. He might have thought it was JFK Jr. dressed up as tsf.

Just a few people knew this and he had to save the world.
🤪

[Scrivener7]

8. Huh. Disaffected follower of the convicted felon fires into a MAGA crowd and is

subsequently shot by SS. And the convicted felon sustains a minor injury, poses for a photo op, and no medical report is forthcoming. On the eve of the convention.

Suggests something smelly, no?

[Kaleva]

13. No it doesn't.

[Scrivener7]

14. .

[Kaleva]

42. Do you have any evidence that shows the shooter was a follower of Trump?

I bet you don't.

He might have been but I haven't seen anything that proves he was.

[IbogaProject]

56. Kids from his debate class said he was the lone Regressive on every issue

That is all we really have, along with he registered R at a general election, no primary votes.

[JoseBalow]

24. Keep working on it

[PatrickforB]

32. Stinks to high heaven. n/t

[Ocelot II]

9. I'm betting the motive wasn't political but personal/emotional.

So often these shooters are young, messed-up guys who have some imaginary or unknown personal grudge or want to do something that will ensure they will be noticed and remembered. It appears that Crooks intended to shoot a lot of people and not just Trump, but shooting Trump as part of the show would ensure he got even more attention than all those school shooters put together (since obviously shooting 30 kids isn't as big a deal as putting a scratch on Trump's ear). The fact that there were Trump signs on his front lawn indicated that one or both parents were supporters; maybe he wanted to shoot Trump just to piss off his parents. Since he didn't have a social media presence that we know of, we might never know (unless his parents know and eventually talk about it).

[allegorical oracle]

18. Sounds reasonable. Keep wondering how/why a 20-yr-old these days wouldn't

be doing social media. Parent/s wouldn't allow? Truly feel sorry for his family.

[rubbersole]

28. Or conveniently scrubbed.

[Sogo]

47. I agree that it's likely more personal/emotional.

This thread from yesterday caught my attention, and I've been waiting to see if anything comes out to indicate the social media post is real. I think it tells a lot if it is....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19152216

[LisaM]

60. Quest? Okay then.

Don Quixote complex.

I'm sorry, but look at all the movies and video games that play in to this "quest" nonsense. I am sick of it.

[Think. Again.]

11. Rightwing gun-humpers just want to hurt people, doesn't matter who.

[senseandsensibility]

12. So I guess the parents weren't liberals

either? Gosh, things aren't looking good for the blame the left crowd.

[MustLoveBeagles]

17. It won't stop them though

[BoRaGard]

15. magat on magat violence is vile

as is all violence.

[Tickle]

16. Maybe daddy told him to get

a job and he got pissed. Then wondered how he could get back at his father.... 🧐

[Wingus Dingus]

19. He had a job in the kitchen of a nursing home.

Apparently he was a good employee. But no mention of college for what was a very smart young man--kind of strange.

[senseandsensibility]

20. I actually read somewhere that he got an AA degree

from a local community college. I can't remember the exact subject, but I think it was Math related.

[Wingus Dingus]

21. Oh, ok.

[Lulu KC]

51. He had just finished his AA

It was engineering-related. He was supposed to transfer to four-year college in the fall.

[ffr]

22. Zealot

Patsy.

[Lucky Luciano]

25. Could be totally non political too.

He might have tried this if it were Biden doing a stump speech and it could be that the bottom line is that he wanted to be a famous shooter doing something “epic.”

He does fit the school shooter profile.

[PatrickforB]

31. Yeah he does. I saw footage of kids he went to school with getting interviewed and

they said he was bullied really badly all through High School.

[RockRaven]

27. Those looking for a political motive should remember that most school

shootings are not about academics/education. IOW, maybe this shooting at a political rally was about shooting rather than politics.

[PatrickforB]

29. And the truth is, Neville, we will not ever really get the full story, I'm sure.

So, the guy is a registered Republican, and had Trump signs, but then forms a half baked, insane plan to assassinate Trump. Why?

And why did that police sniper seem to have the guy in his sights, and yet let him squeeze off at least one shot before taking him out?

And why in the heck didn't the Secret Service have their own sniper on that very same roof?

I doubt we will ever know this guy's actual motive.

[Kaleva]

45. We don't know if the kid put out the Trump signs

He might have been a supporter of Trump. He might have been a supporter of Nikki Haley or some other Republican. Or he could be someone like my wife who is registered to vote but cares little for politics

[Doodley]

34. Maybe kid intended to miss Trump to help his re-election.

[bucolic_frolic]

37. If so, that's a shame, because Trump surely doesn't miss him. /nt

[mn9driver]

35. His dad had 20 guns registered.

I imagine the shooter didn’t put the signs up, but signs and guns would certainly indicate a Trumpy household.

[TexasBushwhacker]

40. I was thinking it might be a way to hurt his dad n/t

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

57. Daddy is gonna lose all his toys

No way he keeps them after one of his purchases was used this way.

[maxsolomon]

64. You're thinking we live in a country with sane gun laws.

We don't.

[Kaleva]

43. Could you provide a link to that, please?

Because that's interesting info! Thanks in advance!

[mn9driver]

50. Not finding the reference now.

It looks like the articles that stated that have been modified to say “more than a dozen guns”.

[Kaleva]

54. Ok. Thanks for looking though!

[ForgedCrank]

39. Well, that

would TOTALLY explain why he tried to murder him. He was a supporter.
?


geez

[Kaleva]

44. We don't know if he was a supporter

[JI7]

49. Gun Nut Culture

[ecstatic]

52. My theories in order of likelihood

Theory 1: Beginning or full blown psychosis -- hearing voices that instruct him on what to do.

Men are usually diagnosed with schizophrenia between the late teens and early 20s, with a peak at 21-25 years of age.

Theory 2: His mom or sister expressed concern over the threat that trump poses so he did what he did to defend his mom and the country.

[ColinC]

53. Maga on maga crime

[Kaleva]

55. Title of OP isn't accurate

Article doesn't say it was the shooter himself that had put Trump signs in the yard of his parents who he lived with

[Linda ladeewolf]

59. Maybe the kid read

The Epstein report and saw how many times trumps name was mentioned. If he knew someone who’d been abused maybe he was getting revenge on their behalf?

[wishstar]

61. deleted

[SpankMe]

65. Pretty weak data point

"Neighbors say". Plus, others lived in the house. No photo evidence.

Not sure we should be making hay out of this factoid.

[iemanja]

66. I saw this on Twitter but didn't know if it was real.