So President Biden, in a display of his eminent human decency, tried to call the widow of the man who was killed . . .

[markpkessinger]

. . . but she refused to take the call, and said, "My husband was a devout Republican, and wouldn't want me talking to him."

Really???

Your partisan identity is so extreme that you cannot receive the condolences offered to you by the President of the United States? Seriously? Meanwhile, there have been no reports of Trump trying to reach out to her at all!

I wouldn't normally criticize a grieving person, but this is just so incredibly small!

[ExciteBike66]

1. Her husband was killed by a republican...

Wonder if her mind just hasn't gotten around that one yet...

[littlemissmartypants]

21. It appears "her mind" was a devout Republican.

It may take a while before she sprouts her own wings, if ever. Bless her heart.

[Butterflylady]

74. She has been manipulated by her husband so bad she doesn't know

How to think for herself.

[littlemissmartypants]

89. That's certainly the appearance.

They say her husband is a hero for shielding their bodies. But did he "shield" their minds?

He took his children and wife to an event where a sociopathic psychopath, compulsive pathological liar and convicted criminal was appearing.

The situation itself was toxic and as we have now learned not even safe enough for the sociopath to appear.

He failed in his duty as a father and a husband to protect his family from all of that leaving them traumatized and rudderless.

He did not even care enough about his wife to encourage her to think and act for herself in his absence.

I can't imagine living with that kind of "safety" and "protection" can you?

Thanks for your reply, Butterflylady. ❤️

[Bengus81]

26. And killed by a weapon that Biden and others in Congress got a ban on UNTIL her party refused to extend the ban

Her support for Trump and other Republicans got her husband killed.

[gopiscrap]

45. exactly, she was just asking for widowhood

no sympathy for that ignorant piece of shit

[Joinfortmill]

30. I think she was a classic subjugated wife.

I don't say that lightly. I have experience in this area.

[FarPoint]

2. This is evident of the imbedded hate MAGA's have garnered.

Soon, she may realize how bizarre and childish she has behaved ...

tRump ..the intended target ...did not call family as far as I know ...

[BlueKota]

56. He played golf the next day.

If people haven't realized by now he doesn't care about anyone else except himself they never will. I don't doubt that if he ever had to decide between saving his own life, or his kids or grandchildren lives, he'd pick his own every single time.

[obamanut2012]

3. She said he was a DEVOUT Republican

[markpkessinger]

5. Noted and OP corrected! n/t

[cutroot]

24. Devout as in a religious connotation. They are a cult

[dchill]

34. It's such a great religion. Comprised of gun worshipers, idolaters...

...and racists. Praise the Lard.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

67. Don't forget the Republican sexual predators, abusers, and enablers...

Over 1300 and counting
Daily Kos: CajsaLilliehook-Republican sexual predators

[LuckyCharms]

4. I'll give her a pass. I won't give Trump a pass.

She had her husband get his brains blown out. In front of her.

She can't be thinking clearly right now during her shock and grief.

Trump though?

Fuck him.

This only displays the difference in character between Trump and Biden.

Did Trump even fucking MENTION the man who was killed?

[Ocelot II]

6. Biden called her. Trump didn't, at least as of yesterday.

[LuckyCharms]

9. I know, that's my point.

Biden made a call, she didn't accept.

Trump?

Couldn't even make a fucking phone call.

Infuriating.

[geardaddy]

17. TSF was too busy golfing to call.

[NameAlreadyTaken]

7. She's just as bad as her husband was.

[LisaM]

14. Stop.

She's in shock, she lost the love of her life. Please don't criticize her for not taking a phone call.

[orangecrush]

38. Agree

[TheKentuckian]

82. She is a petty cultist and it is a a waste of time trying to be respectful of such fuckwits.

[Quiet Em]

90. When I heard the deceased described as a "girl Dad"

who apparently thought a Trump rally was an appropriate place to bring his daughter for a family outing, I immediately assumed he "ruled the roost."

She had no ill will towards President Biden. She is not holding him responsible. She's shocked, grieving and in mourning and in her mind it is her final respect towards her husband.

I don't have to respect her, but I don't feel the need to trash her in her grief either. Who knows, maybe this will wake her or at least her daughter up.

[gopiscrap]

46. I agree

[JI7]

8. She also made a comment saying her husband did everything and she did nothing

she pretty much worshipped the guy and sees taking the call as going against him.

[SunSeeker]

65. She raised 2 daughters, and she calls that nothing?

Wow.

[Rob H.]

10. To be fair, she did clarify that she didn't have any animosity toward Pres. Biden

"I don't have any ill-will towards Joe Biden. He didn't do anything to my husband. A 20-year-old despicable kid did."

I don't expect Trump to ever call her, because he gets nothing out of it and everything he does is transactional.

[Kaleva]

11. She's grieving. Give her a pass instead of trying to make a political point off of her loss

[gopiscrap]

49. in this day's political climate

we have to make political points over everything we can, because you know the fucking repukes will

[Kaleva]

96. Nobodies mind will be changed here

We all are still going to vote Blue.

[fishwax]

12. I mean, I think it's pretty small to attack a grieving widow for not wanting to take a phone call

It would be great if she took the call, sure. It really doesn't matter at all that she didn't. A woman whose husband has just been killed doesn't owe anyone a phone conversation.

It says a lot about Biden and who he is and what he stands for that he tried to call.

If the reports are true that trump hadn't called, well, that says a lot about him and what he stands for, too.

But those are the things that are important. The woman is not a public figure, and can grieve in private however she wants. I don't think there's any cause to read anything about her character into that.

[markpkessinger]

19. Perhaps it is . . .

. . . I'll take that risk.

[sop]

28. What matters is President Biden reached out and tried to offer condolences, as most presidents would do.

The grieving woman refused his call for some misguided reason, but stated she didn't blame Biden for her husband's death. And Trump didn't call. What else is there to say?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

13. TFG has NOT called the widow of the man killed at his rally

Link to tweet

[SunSeeker]

62. "I don't have any ill will towards Biden" but I won't take a call from the President...because he's Biden.

[moniss]

15. It gives an excellent indication

as to the people they are and that indication tells me I wouldn't want to know them.

[gopiscrap]

52. same here fuck all of them

[Martin68]

16. These people are deluded cultists.

[jimfields33]

81. Ok. So in 2018, trump tries to call a democratic supporter, do they have to take the call?

I think it’s up to the individual to make the choice. I’d definitely refuse a call from trump no matter the reason. Does that make me a horrible person?

[Martin68]

85. False equivalency. Trump is a monster, Biden is a decent human being.

[Srkdqltr]

18. Im sure Biden understood and did not hold it against her

As Biden is understanding and a gentleman.
Which is more than I can say for a lot of people.

[Ray Bruns]

57. I would. But Joe Biden is a better man than me.

[LaMouffette]

20. I doubt that this occurred to the widow, but if she had taken Biden's call, she would have likely received death threats

from the most vicious of the MAGAs.

[Vinca]

22. Then she must be horrified the Democratic governor of the state ordered flags at half staff for him.

[Rocknation]

23. How ironic that her husband's murderer was also a devout Republican

devout enough to decide that Trump is so unfit to be a Republican president, he tried to do to him what St. Michael did to Satan.


Rocknation

[forthemiddle]

25. Would you take a call from Trump

Or would you refuse?
If you did take one, it would only be to rightfully give him a piece of your mind I bet.
She felt she was following her dead husbands wishes, and I won’t condemn her for that.
My husband would strike me from his grave if I gave Trump the chance to eulogize him.

[phylny]

37. I would probably take the call

and then use the conversation as an opportunity to ask him why AR – 15 style weapons are still in the hands of Americans and why he is a liar.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

83. I would want to record the entire call.

Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger said he recorded the call he received from T***p because he knew that TFG would distort the conversation for his own purposes.

It was a good call. Had we not heard T***p's own voice tell Raffensperger, "I just want to find 11,780 votes," he could (and would) have spun the conversation however he wanted, for example, to say Raffensperger agreed with him about fraudulent voting.

I can imagine Trump's retelling of a conversation between himself and the widow: "She had tears in her eyes as she said, 'Sir, my husband loved you, and he died because he knew that only you could make America great again.'"

[Traurigkeit]

48. Why take a call from a nobody ?

[AkFemDem]

27. Her husband had died lass than 24 hours before...

She had no duty or obligation to talk to anyone, let alone the President who she did not personally know or vote for. Seriously people- if your spouse died and Trump called you less than 24 hours later to offer condolences, would you feel like talking to him?? People are entitled to grieve in peace without being political props or media targets.

[AkFemDem]

29. Also, she was polite enough to stress she did not blame Biden for what some 20 yr old wacko did

She was frankly, way more polite to that media than I would have been.

[DaBronx]

35. Good on Joe for doing the right thing.

This mentality has nothing to do with grieving. I pity these people who might need a pint of blood someday. Will they die before receiving Democratic
blood?

[gopiscrap]

55. you bet I would take the call from trump

I would tape it and use the opportunity to tell him what a lying, selfish piece of shit he is and then send it to the networks and social media sites

[AkFemDem]

84. Then I'd question how much you actually loved your spouse

People who are genuinely grieving don’t use the opportunity to rant and rave about politics.

[gopiscrap]

86. all of life is politics

ven in grief, I would stick it to a repuke in a heart beat

[AkFemDem]

87. What a boring, sad life!

Dude... go smoke a doobie and chill to some Sublime or something, because I'm actually kind of horrified for you.

[gopiscrap]

91. Dude I learned early on that all of life is politics

I lost both my parents as a child as a result of political decisions. I was born to a mother who had been a refugee and lost her leg because of war. I was adopted by a father who was shot in Vietnam and died as a result of those wounds when I was seven. I learned early on that politics can have a direct and profound effect upon one's life. Yes, I would grieve horribly, but I also would use any platform I could to to possibly gain a political advantage over MAGA's. I have run for US COngress from the left and have chaired a liberal winning political city initiative. I believe we are inherently political creatures and that to be on the alert for times when I can get my message, values and beliefs out there.

[onecaliberal]

31. She is supporting a child rapist. What else needs to be said. That is all I need to know.

Sorry not sorry. No fucks to give. Just like they have none when innocent people are gunned down for their fetish.

[Collimator]

32. In all honesty. . .

If Trump were to reach out to me in acknowledgement of any event whatsoever, I would not take his call.

I'm damned impressed that Biden reached out to Trump after the shooting. I'm blown away that Hillary Clinton took her place as a former First Lady to attend Trump's inauguration.

And I am not so secretly pleased that Melania Trump looked happier sitting next to Barack Obama at a funeral than she did sitting next to her own husband on the day of his greatest triumph.

I would rather live my life as a cleaning lady scrubbing floors than as a political figure dealing with those kinds of social requirements. . . And I've worked customer service, so I know what it is like to be polite to impossible people.

[madaboutharry]

33. This keeps getting brought up, but I really think we need to give this woman a break.

I don't care if that family are nutball Trumpers. They are traumatized. Let it rest.

Also, raise your hand if there are any circumstances in which you would accept a phone call and speak with Trump. Be honest: hand remains not raised.

[gopiscrap]

58. I would accept a call from trump in a heart beat if my spouse was gunned

down at his rally. I would take the call, use the opportunity to tell him what a lying piece of shit him and his ilk are and then send it to the networks and social media sites

[madaboutharry]

59. Well, that would be a valid option!

[debm55]

36. When I hear the word devout used , I immediately think of a religion used behind it. Not a political party.

[dchill]

50. It actually fits the third definition. Of three.

devout
/dĭ-vout′/

adjective
1. Devoted to a religion or to the fulfillment of religious obligations.
"a devout Catholic."
2. Characterized by religious devotion or piety.
"devout observance of the holy days."
3. Fervently believing in or advocating an ideology or position:
"a devout socialist

Whether he was willing to die for his beliefs will remain unknown.

[debm55]

68. I understand. But honestly in my 69 years , I have never heard it used in front of a Political party. It just may be me

[dchill]

94. Don't get me wrong! I found it completely odd.

I just thought I'd look it up. Being pretty much an atheist, I'd probably consider myself devout liberal. I just wonder how deeply these "devout" Republicans have pondered EVERYTHING that description involves and requires.

[dchill]

39. "I did nothing on guns." - Donald J. Trump

[Biglinda 52]

40. What is Really Telling....

is what she said "My husband was a devout republican...". Usually people say I'm a devout Catholic sort of stuff. Kinda gives us an insight in the minds of these people. Trumpism is taking the place of religion.

[underpants]

54. What does SHE want to do? Is my question

Living or not he shouldn’t be able to tell her what to do

[gopiscrap]

41. fuck her, she's nothing but a piece of shit

[democrattotheend]

42. I won't criticize her

She is grieving, probably still in shock, and if the situation were reversed I don't know if I would have wanted to take a call from Trump. She was gracious about not blaming Biden at least.

The part I find shocking about this story is that Trump hasn't called her (or at least hadn't as of the time of the article).

[Traurigkeit]

43. "devout Republican" - White Sumpremist ?

[BidenRocks]

44. OTOH

Think how hard it is for Pres. Biden to even have to make these calls.
You know he feels their pain.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

47. I'd have to give her a pass

Considering what she’s just been through. She might have felt it would be dishonoring his memory. In any case I’d hold back on any judgment, someone would make within a couple of days of seeing their husbands brain blown out right in front of his children

[gopiscrap]

60. bullshit, all of life is politics

fuck her, she voted for the policies that helped facilitate her husband getting killed

[lark]

51. Woman and her husband were committed asshats and have no understanding of kindness or decency.

Indecent and unkind asses, that is what R's are.

[spanone]

53. Her husband took a bullet meant for trmp but did he call her?

Fuck no.

[Tickle]

61. trump's campaign officials set up a GoFundMe for the victims

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-assassination-gofundme-victims-1924926

Trump campaign officials have set up a GoFundMe page for the victims of the shooting. The former president, himself, also sent his well wishes to the victims and their families, while thanking Secret Service for their efforts to keep him safe.

“Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured.”

[SunSeeker]

64. So he didn't spend a dime of his own money nor mention the guy's name, let alone call his widow.

Got it.

[Deep State Witch]

71. I Wouldn't Contribute Anything To A GoFundMe

Set up by anyone associated with the Trump campaign. The widow and her family will never see that money. If I was going to contribute, it would be to someone who set it up independently.

[LonePirate]

63. This is no surprise to me given the mindset (or lack of one) among MAGATs.

Only hatred and division exist for them and nothing else.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

69. Would she have taken one from Mango Mugabe'? nt

[bif]

70. Typical Republican nastiness.

[Dem4life1234]

72. That's how you know

These people are so far gone and not worth saving.

[Gore1FL]

73. I wouldn't take a call from Trump, McConnell, Johnson, etc.

I don't see the big deal.

[Klarkashton]

75. Anyone that would attend a shit show like that

Is stupid.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

76. Think of whom would still attend his rallies in 2024

The word 'devout Republican' would go without saying

[Bilbo Baggins]

77. Not surprising at all

It is MAGA, remember?
Total brainwash, total loyalty to the god called Trump.

[no_hypocrisy]

78. It's western/central Pennsylvania.

My father was from Dubois and was like that. (Hardly comparable, but he stopped seeing movies with Ingrid Bergman and hated her because of her affair with Roberto Rossellini and having children with a married man.)

[markpkessinger]

79. I grew up in Clinton County (Lock Haven) . . .

. . . and still have family there. There are indeed some who are like that, but it is by no means universal!

[no_hypocrisy]

93. Point taken.

[StocktonNative]

80. He took his family to a Nazi Harvest Indoctrination Rally

..and won a prize. This lady realizes but will never confess the bad things the death cult brings to them.

[Brenda]

88. I have a question to all of you who criticize this widow.

If your spouse died in the same way but at a Biden rally, would you take the call from Trump (if he was Prez in this hypothetical)?

I wouldn't want to hear that fuckers voice on my phone.

As others have pointed out...she didn't blame Biden, she is in a lot of shock and grief and very obviously by her own words was a very subservient wife.

So enough with the attacks on her as a Maga partisan.

On edit: When I first heard about her I thought it was crazy too that someone would not accept a call from OMG the President of the United States. But after reading her story and thinking about it more I came to the conclusion she has a right to her actions/feelings at this time.

I'm sure Joe understands.

[Miles Archer]

92. I just know Trumo is going to call her any minute now with condolences.

He'll call to squeeze her for a donation. He'll lean into it. He'll tell her that she wouldn't want her husband to die in vain, and that she'd want to honor his loyalty as a Trump supporter, and the way she can honor that is to "chip in."

Some who read this may think I'm kidding. If so, follow David Corn on Twitter. He's on Trump's mailing list and shares "fundraising" emails and texts from Trump regularly. Trump will want to make that call because he can never leave cash on the table.

The Trump Files: The Easiest 13 Cents He Ever Made

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/08/trump-files-spy-magazine-prank/

In its short-lived existence, Spy magazine had a lot of fun with Donald Trump. The New York-based monthly is best known for making fun of the size of Trump’s fingers, but its deepest cut may have come as part of a 1990 prank.

Spy correspondent Julius Lowenthal wanted to know just how cheap some of the city’s richest figures were. So he set up a company, called the National Refund Clearinghouse, and sent letters with checks for $1.11 enclosed, “for services that you were overcharged for.” The letters went out to 58 “well-known, well-heeled Americans,” 26 of whom promptly cashed them. Curious as to how low they might go, Lowenthal sent those 26 “nabobs” a second refund check, for $0.64. This time, 13 people cashed them.

Finally, he sent those 13 respondents a check for $0.13. This time, only two people cashed the check. One was an arms dealer. The other was Donald Trump, whom the magazine identified as a “demibillionaire casino operator and adulturer.”

[poozwah]

95. the divide

reminds me again( as if i needed it)as to which party is responsible for the hate in this nation.