Disappointed to hear Morning Joe call out Obama for being behind

[Skya Rhen]

the campaign to pressure Biden to step down. My heart is breaking right now.

[BannonsLiver]

1. Unless one is delusional or not paying attention

Things are fairly grim right now

[Elessar Zappa]

22. Yes but

our allies shouldn’t be contributing to the grimness. I respect Obama and that won’t change but I hope he’s not behind an effort to replace Biden. Regardless of how one feels about Biden’s fitness, he has decided to stay the course. It’s time to unite behind him or we’ll get wiped out in November.

[democrattotheend]

25. I'm pretty sure he's not

From what I have read, it seems like lots of Democrats and reporters have called him trying to see where he stands but he is being pretty tight-lipped because he knows anything he says could be leaked and construed as him trying to push Biden out. It's no secret that he had doubts in 2020 about whether Biden was up for a campaign and I am sure he has those same doubts now, but I have seen no evidence that he is making an active push to get Biden out of the race.

[appmanga]

29. I'm neither delusional...

...nor am I not paying attention.

Things are only grim if you feel this race is somehow over. Not only is it far from over, Democrats have an overwhelming case to deliver to a country willing to accept it if they'd show some unity and courage. I'd love to be running against a Republican in a competitive district or state. I'd love to talk to people everyday about Trump's authoritarian desires, the do-nothing Republicans in the House, the cruelty of forcing women to give birth even when it endangers their lives, and the fascist blueprint that is Project 2025. If you can't convince the voters of the not only those dangers while being able to talk about Democratic accomplishments and the future, you don't belong in politics.

It's "grim" for the defeatists. We should have no problem kicking Republican ass between now and November.

[Botany]

2. I don't trust anything that Joe S. says remember he was a big factor behind Florida 2000 ...

… and bush v Gore and has yet to come clean about that. He is a professional shit stirer.

[brewens]

3. Does he have a real thing for being the president responsible for our first woman president and

was hoping he could put Harris in the White House? When we heard before "it's time for a woman in the White House" ad nauseum it didn't work out.

I'd love to see Harris president some day as long as she isn't confused by what the word no means. I'd rather not hear about her emails for a decade.

[shrike3]

4. Sad, very sad if this is true.

[Sympthsical]

5. The Clooney op-ed didn't fall from a clear blue sky

The second that dropped I thought, "Oh."

[Rebl2]

33. No longer

a fan of Clooney. Guess he prefers trump.

[we can do it]

34. Biden didn't go all in for Clooney's wife's Gaza stance. Pretty transparent.

[Blue Owl]

6. I want to hear it straight from Obama -- is this just conjecture or did Barack really say this?

[emulatorloo]

19. Pure speculation.

[we can do it]

35. More flung poo unless confirmed personally by Obama.

[flamingdem]

7. I think this is a right wing talking point

Anyone saying this has poor thinking skills.

Obama has no reason to do that to Joe.

First of all it would get out that he's doing that in a real way.

Right now all they have is that Clooney might have given him a heads up
and Obama stayed neutral.

[BlueInPhilly]

8. I come to this board every 4 years

To lift my spirit. Lots of hysterics lately.

[shrike3]

9. I know. Sorry about that.

[livetohike]

13. Following the debate both Pres. Obama and Pres.

Clinton came out and supported Pres. Biden. But apparently that isn’t enough for some people. Do they need to repeat themselves ad nauseum?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/28/obama-support-biden-debate-001658

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4747593-bill-clinton-joe-biden-debate-aftermath/

[BlueInPhilly]

11. George Clooney has become insufferable

Self-proclaimed moral guardian of Hollywood whilst living in posh estates all around Europe. Didn’t like him then, still don’t like him now. He is a mental midget compared to his wife.

[MyMission]

21. I bet he's worried about his new movie

And how loyal Democrats will boycott it!
He should be.

[Attilatheblond]

24. Been wondering, myself, if big money backers threatened some movie makers of pulling funds for projects

it they don't say Biden needs to back out.

[tman]

12. The fact that Team Biden put this out there is politically suicidal and playing with fire.

Considering a very possible problem with black voter turnout. A public fight with the one person that could maybe help with that? Not a great look. And as we see, Trump is already exploiting the division, so obviously still watching Morning Joe.

This in-fighting will be fatal if it continues.

[Skya Rhen]

16. The FACT is Joe Scarborough put it out there this morning and he

has just as much inside knowledge as all of the other media personalities. If you watch this morning’s show, you would see Scarborough also calling out David Axelrod and others inside that circle, and asking Obama to come out and call an end to this.

Further, the CBC as well as black leaders such as Al Sharpton and the NAACP are fully behind Biden, even though I expect that they would know full well who the players are behind this. So this is telling.

As a black woman, this is very unsettling to me and I will remain firmly behind Biden. I have his back.

[tman]

17. This is the same Morning Joe that claimed Biden's team

also put out (baseless) rumors about who wrote the clooney op head and other (denied) accusation mainly aimed at the 'Pod Save America' crew which consists of former Obama staff.

So team Biden are (rightly) in attack mode right now but are attacking some of the wrong people.

Obama put out a strong statement in support of Biden after the debate. That's all I need to know.

[Skya Rhen]

18. So it is baseless to say that Axelrod and other former Obama staffers, such as Pod Save America

is consistently bashing Biden every time they speak? I hear this trashing with my own ears - so, no, it is not baseless to conclude that they are a part of the campaign to pressure Biden to exit.

[edisdead]

23. Hey where did those goal posts go?

[democrattotheend]

26. I read somewhere that Obama hasn't talked to the Pod Save America guys in years

I don't think he's actively behind any effort to get Biden to step aside. He's been so tight-lipped that the press are grasping at straws trying to figure out where he stands.

[yorkster]

28. I missed something. Did Biden's campaign

make a statement or release anything about this?

[obamanut2012]

36. No

[SilverDawg]

14. As for the Pelosi and Obama

reports, I suspect that the source is via a disinformation campaign coming from Russia. Speculation on my part, of course.

[Polybius]

15. I haven't heard another Democrat (besides the previous dozen or so) call for Biden to drop out since Thursday night

I thought it stopped.

[Irish_Dem]

30. Adam Schiff report today.

Told his donors Biden cannot win and will cause big Dem losses.

I too thought it was over, but we are still getting this kind of news.

I wish I knew what was going on.

[obamanut2012]

37. He said that Saturday afternoon

[Irish_Dem]

38. Yes but the news just came out today.

I am looking at the time date stamps on various articles.

But if you have earlier reports I would like to see them.

[EndlessWire]

40. Wow

I am really disappointed in Schiff. Why is he telling "his donors" this stuff? Why isn't he keeping his mouth shut?

[Irish_Dem]

43. We don't know.

Something is going on.

We don't know what it is.

[Innocent Smith]

39. Paused

My guess it that it is just paused not stopped.

[Emile]

20. I don't believe this hearsay. This how they

make news out of thin air!

[Doodley]

27. On a brighter note, this puts an end to the Rethug lie that Obama is pulling Joe's strings.

[Irish_Dem]

31. You'd think they could at least have consistent propaganda.

[yorkster]

32. No evidence means no credence.

Did Scarborough say Obama was "behind"
this effort, as in orchestrated, set in motion?
I know about the alleged heads-up from Clooney before the NYT editorial. I can see what others have, that Obama might have remained silent to avoid undue influence accusations or affecting the process with unpredictable results.
This seems more like Axelrod and company at work. If that's the case, Scarborough or someone should have the spine to say so.
This has been discussed here recently. It was mentioned, and I strongly agree, that if Barack Obama thought Joe shouldn't run he would speak to him directly and privately. That may have happened and of course, Joe could have said what he's said
several times - that he is running.

[EndlessWire]

41. FWIW, I still see Obama ads

fundraising for Biden/Harris. I see an ad by him almost every day. Seeing more Kamala ads than usual.

[LisaL]

42. Obama doesn't have a crystal ball either.

My understanding is that he supported Hillary Clinton in 2016 over Biden, and of course she lost to Trump.