Yes, we've all seen news reports repeating the Trump campaign on Donald's 'injuries,' but where's the medical report?

[bigtree]

John V. Moore @johnvmoore 1h
It's amazing that the same folks who created the whole White House Parkinson's Disease thing from visitor logs are not the least bit curious about the injuries that convicted felon Trump suffered after an assassination attempt.

Polly Sigh @dcpoll 24m
Very weird, @piper4missouri. Major news outlets have interviewed Eric Trump without pushing back on any of his lies and without pressing him on Trump’s actual injury or the medical treatment he received.

Jess Piper @piper4missouri
I read about Biden gaffes for weeks. I read about his health and his fitness and his supposed mental decline. Meanwhile, the former president was shot and we have nothing? No health reports? No doctors? Nothing to report to the American people? Weird.

___Professor of journalism Jeff Jarvis on Monday also asked, “why have we not seen a medical report from the hospital that treated Trump? Why have we not seen reporters vocally demanding it?”

He added: “Let’s at least try to demand transparency from the campaign and doctors. I don’t see anyone trying.”

“Trump was taken to Butler Memorial Hospital close to where the attack happened, but no details have been officially released,” The Daily Beast reported Monday.

Calling it a “Mystery,” The Beast reports, “the Trump camp has not disclosed what kinds of tests the former president underwent, how he was treated and for what types of injuries, and if there will be follow-ups. While such details may seem insignificant, the American public tends to expect maximum clarity about presidential health, as the public storm over President Joe Biden’s mental acuity, one led by members of his own party, demonstrated.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/was-trump-hit-by-a-bullet-or-not-calls-mount-for-campaign-to-release-medical-records/ar-BB1q4P0e?ocid=BingNewsSerp

[Fiendish Thingy]

1. You, nor anyone else has a right to see Trump's medical reports

Would you trust them anyway?

[bigtree]

2. lol

...yes we do.

And we should demand answers.

We should demand Trump produce as many medical records as President Biden has throughout his first campaign and throughout his presidency.

Or maybe we should just skip this campaign thing?

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. Who should go to jail for violating HIPAA?

This is a distraction and time waster from the ultimate goal of defeating Trump.

[bigtree]

5. lol, again

...you diverted to jail.

No one raised the possibility of penalties.

This is a political campaign and the idea is to make Trump accountable in this campaign. The penalty for refusing would hopefully be a rejection of his campaign.

Remember the campaign?

Whose interest is it in concealing that information?

“Trump has posted that his ear was pierced by a bullet, but the sad fact is that he’s an unreliable source. News organizations need to wait for more credible confirmation of what happened,” wrote journalist Steven Beschloss on Saturday.

“Why haven’t we heard from the medical staff or others confirming whether Trump was or wasn’t hit by a bullet?” he asked Monday, adding, “If indeed Trump was cut by a piece of glass, then all the talk that he was shot is factually wrong. This needs to be clarified by the authorities involved, no matter whether it contradicts the Trump narrative.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/was-trump-hit-by-a-bullet-or-not-calls-mount-for-campaign-to-release-medical-records/ar-BB1q4P0e?ocid=BingNewsSerp

...oh, and you appear to be 'wasting' your own time here on this thread. Strange complaint for citizen voters who do much more than post here.

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. Any data on who actually gives a f*ck?

Other than yellow journalists and political junkies?

It’s a distraction, bordering on obsession.

[bigtree]

8. wow. Really piqued, huh?

...I don't need to tell you who gives a fuck.

I posted this to generate fuck.

Who doesn't give a fuck in an election campaign?


‘Trying to hide medical records’ may be ‘final nail in the coffin’ for Biden campaign: MSNBC political analyst Susan Del Percio
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trying-hide-medical-records-may-180317550.html

[Fiendish Thingy]

14. What should phone bankers and canvassers be talking about?

Project 2025 and a GOP VP chosen by Putin’s South African oligarchs, or Trump’s refusal to release his medical records to settle the bullet vs. Teleprompter glass debate?

With hundreds of millions of dollars in dark money in the pipeline for the Republicans, we shouldn’t be wasting our resources on things voters, especially swing voters, aren’t likely to care much about.

But this is just an Internet forum, screaming into the void, so you do you,

[bigtree]

15. they should talk about whatever they bleeding want to

...see how that works?

[Fiendish Thingy]

18. You don't think some topics would be more persuasive and useful? Nt

[bigtree]

22. no, you do

...


AntiSocialMedia @Terrista2 14h
Mind you, this is the same man who sent his bodyguard and his lawyer unannounced to his longtime doctor’s office to take the only copy of his medical records, including aliases under which he received treatment.



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-doc-says-trump-bodyguard-lawyer-raided-his-office-took-n870351

[Fiendish Thingy]

27. You do you

I personally think it’s a huge waste of time that does nothing to help us defeat Trump.

[bigtree]

29. here's me 'wasting my time'

...according to an anonymous internet poster who's busy wasting his time trying to discourage this line of questioning, at least on this thread.

It's certainly been worth my time to respond to you, taking those opportunities to expand on my post with what's occurred to me in the interlude between these engaging points you've made throughout.

I exercise my writing skills, and have an opportunity to expound on my advocacy, so I thank you for your responses.

Here I go... presenting, our nominee, 'wasting HIS time,' huh?!


Sarah Reese Jones @PoliticusSarah Jul 11
Biden reminds the press that he laid out his medical records, but Trump hasn't, "I laid every bit of the record out. Have not hid a thing. You should ask Trump for his."


....very smart and cogent answer, Mr. President!

[markodochartaigh]

32. When I canvass or phone bank

I talk about what the other person wants to talk about. I let them choose the topic and then I present the Democratic take on it as best I can.

[gab13by13]

21. I give a fuck

because it shows the different way that TSF and Joe are treated. Joe was accused of a medical issue because his administration releases the visitor logs to the public but TSF administration did not. So the Biden visitor logs showed a doctor visited and the MSM made the leap to that doctor treating Biden.

We have a case of asking for a medical report that could basically confirm or deny if TSF was hit by a bullet and all of a sudden we aren't entitled to that information.

Since there is no medical report I am free to speculate and I believe it would be much more likely for TSF's ear to have been hit by debris from a bullet than the actual bullet itself. If a bullet just nipped TSF's ear, he is one lucky SOB because his ears don't stick out very far from his noggin. Also, the debris theory makes sense because numerous people close to TSF were hit by debris. Funny those people close to TSF had no problem allowing that information to be released.

[ZonkerHarris]

35. Thanks for the GOP spin on the issue.

[sarisataka]

4. At this point, if they released a medical report

Would you believe it? Or would it depend on what the report says caused the injury?

[bigtree]

6. 'if'

...but they haven't yet, so how can anyone judge a medical report release that hasn't happened?

[Ms. Toad]

9. And they aren't going to, without Trump's consent.

Because they are prohibited by law from doing so.

I would like to see them pose the question to Trump about why he hasn't released the report. His explanation would be more telling than the report itself.

[bigtree]

11. yep

[sarisataka]

10. Simple,

A medical report is released that states "laceration to the upper ear lobe caused by a bullet graze." Would that settle the question or would it be claimed the report is a falsification?

I believe unless the report fits a narrative, it will be claimed it is a lie.

I really don't care one way or the other and his supporters will believe it was a bullet regardless of evidence to the contrary

[bigtree]

13. dunno

...need to see the actual report.

Trump's description as reported is no more valid with a medical report, than the speculation that the injuries are insignificant.

[sarisataka]

16. We know Trump's claim is BS

The pictures show no signs of a "piercing" wound.

To my eyes, the damage is consistent with a bullet graze. It is possible that it was something else causing the wound, but that item was flying due to a bullet. Therefore bullet/glass/debris is a meaningless debate.

[bigtree]

23. the cover up

...it's a political campaign.

I'm seeing no sense in arguing that his coverup is insignificant in a presidential campaign.

This isn't tiddlywinks. It's hardball politics.

Defenses against demanding accountability from Trump remind me of when my grandad used to sneak his hand in between my mother's when she'd swat me for being bad.

He may have had good reason, but I knew well I was being spared from what I definitely deserved.

[markodochartaigh]

33. Not from US media,

but within a couple of hours I read that Trump and several bystanders had been hit by glass from the teleprompter when it was hit by the bullet.

[orthoclad]

12. Not a HIPAA issue

Why do people protect Trump?

This was a crime. A report on the extent and nature of injuries is a legal record - a public legal record. Just like the coroner's report on the dead shooter. If he were still alive, the medical forensics report would be key to placing charges on him.

[Quiet Em]

17. My guess is that it's because it was a superficial wound

that has now completely healed. He's still wearing that bandage because he wants sympathy or to continue with the charade of how "tough" he is.

I saw a picture of his ear after he was hit. Contrary to what some Trumpers have said, it was not "completely blown off" and he's not "missing the upper portion of his ear". His ear was completely intact with a small nick or puncture wound.

[dalton99a]

19. Kick

[Scrivener7]

20. Great question, bigtree! I fear we'll never see it because it is no worse than a minor shaving nick.

[TheFarseer]

24. Not sure why this is an issue

He got shot at and received a superficial wound from a bullet or some shrapnel that was caused by a bullet. What more do we need to know?

[bigtree]

28. we need to know why the Trump campaign and the former president is reluctant to release his full medical records

..like President Biden did as candidate in his first race, and throughout his presidency.

It's about accountability, which we should expect from every and anyone seeking to wield power from the highest office in the land.

The Trump campaign hasn't even approached independent accountability on his medical condition, on this or any other injury, treatment, ailment, or neurological state he may have experienced.

I find it arrogant and suspicious. I have as much or more suspicion of Trump medical and mental state, from his statements to the way he speaks and acts, as the media demonstrated for over a week of demanding records from the president that had been available to them since February.

This is about reciprocity of coverage in this campaign, as well.

Anyway, what are they hiding? What is it that they're so reluctant to tell Americans about Trump medical and mental state?

[BoRaGard]

25. Where?

C'mon media. Do your freaking job.

Pathetic.

[captain queeg]

26. A RW friend of mine claims the bullet went through his ear.

Not sure where he gets his info and I didn’t bother to ask.

[twodogsbarking]

30. and out the other side.

[markodochartaigh]

34. So, unsurprisingly,

it didn't hit anything.

[captain queeg]

36. Yep. No one questions it. When you watch him get hit he just brushed away like a mosquito. He even said so.

Oh well the same guy watched the RNC. I like the guy so I had to change the subject.

[ancianita]

31. This is not weird. This is by design, everyone knows it and corporate media don't care who calls them out.