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[Walleye]

1. I am curious to know what you think should or could happen instead of Biden at the top of the ticket

And how we even get there.

[Elessar Zappa]

2. And what's your proposed alternative?

[Torchlight]

3. I think in these particular situations, data driven conclusions

have a better success rate than faith-based assertions. I'd love to see the data concluding better choices are available and should be made immediately, but no is supplying it.

[BootinUp]

11. There is no data that could possibly

Justify this. I don’t give a rats ass what Schiff says. 4 months to go and Biden is arguably ahead. Someone tell Schiff to go work on increasing turnout in his state.

[budkin]

4. I agree, I would prefer Kamala Harris

She was actually my first choice originally in 2019.

[Silent Type]

7. Honestly, if one's goal is to shake things up, that would do it. Kick GOPers in balls. GOPer men have been running this

country in the ground since forever.

[piddyprints]

6. Haven't we sort of been encouraged here

to put this issue to bed and get behind our candidate? The primaries are over. Joe Biden is our candidate.

[LAS14]

12. ???? This is supposed to be a discussion site.

Isn't it? We don't have a nominee yet.

[piddyprints]

22. The primaries are over.

President Biden is our presumptive nominee.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

18. Apparently some people don't think terms of service apply to them NT

[piddyprints]

20. Apparently not. n/t

[BannonsLiver]

24. There is a tool to address that

Lower left corner of each post.

[piddyprints]

26. Of course.

I thought perhaps a little common sense persuasion would be a better idea to start with. Clearly, I have failed.

[Miami Blue]

8. Thanks

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-polling-Florida-swing-states-1925789

President Biden can even defeat
Traitor Trump here in Florida💪🏻

The naysayers' Democrats need to stop the
spread of the propaganda and falsehoods
broadcasted on the Media ASAP.

[Squeaky41]

9. A rider with Biden.

I don't see a replacement pending and funding proposed.

[unblock]

10. Overruling the nearly unanimous Democratic primary vote for Biden is almost guaranteed to lost *everything*

How do you think gotv efforts will fare after the party gives a big f u to its members?

A ton of democrats will then sit it out or maybe vote for the brain worm guy as a protest.

Only two times has an incumbent party rejected the incumbent as nominee and managed to win with someone else: Buchanan and Garfield, both ancient history. And both of them had run vigorous and popular primary campaigns.

You want to hand the nomination to someone who merely maybe worked a back room deal and has zero campaign infrastructure or strategy or plan or personnel just 4 months before the election?

It will be an utter disaster.

Maybe someone else had a chance during primary season. But Biden won. Change horses mid stream and we will all drown.

[lame54]

13. Give us a name

[democrattotheend]

15. What's wrong with Kamala?

As his VP she seems like the obvious choice, but so many people seem hesitant about her and I am not sure why.

[lame54]

17. I'm already voting for her

[democrattotheend]

19. But wouldn't you be excited to vote for her at the top of the ticket?

I know I would be. I will be happy to vote for Biden again but would be just as happy to vote for Kamala at the top of the ticket.

[lame54]

21. If you'd be equally happy...

Why waste precious time on this asinine argument

Plus they are jumping on this as a huge talking point

Why are we handing this to them

[piddyprints]

27. She's already on the ticket. n/t

[Think. Again.]

28. You don't think that would create rage-voters on the right?

Wh not just stick with Biden if you think he'll be unable to complete his term?

[democrattotheend]

14. I'm honestly torn (and have been afraid to say it)

I wish he had decided not to run again, which was his original plan (he strongly implied as much himself in his recent BET interview). He's done a great job and he deserves another term, but watching him over the past few weeks, I can't deny how much the presidency has aged him. I do believe he is still "all there" mentally, but he seems old and weak and unfortunately, perception is reality in American politics. I watched his interview with Lester Holt and his press conference and even though his answers were great on substance, he still just seemed old and tired and not nearly as sharp as he did in his debate against Paul Ryan in 2012 or even in the 2020 campaign. Most Democrats will still vote for him but they aren't excited about him (so may not turn out as much, donate as much, volunteer as much, etc.), and concerns about whether he will still be up for the job in four years will probably influence at least some swing voters.

On the other hand, I think switching candidates now is a big risk, especially if Biden does not go willingly, as it seems he won't. It would divide the party, especially since it seems that at least some influential people want to skip over the person we nominated four years ago to be his successor to the presidency. I think swapping out Biden with anyone but Kamala would be divisive, and while I personally would be really excited to vote for her, she seems to be not that popular either for reasons I don't understand. And she is far less well tested and experienced than Biden. I think there is a lot of risk but potentially more upside for a replacement candidate - higher ceiling but lower floor. It may be a risk worth taking if Biden's poll numbers don't increase in the next couple weeks. And make no mistake, being only 2 points down or even tied in the national polls is not good enough - he probably needs to win the national popular vote by at least 4 points to win the electoral college, and that doesn't even factor in the fact that Biden in 2020 and Hillary in 2016 did worse against Trump than the polls predicted.

[lame54]

23. I believe if we lose...

It will be because of this time wasting argument

[lees1975]

25. I don't.

And all that continuously bringing it up will do is help Trump win.

Is that what you want? I answered your question, you answer mine.