Ulysses S. Grant prediction on the second American civil war.

[anamnua]

"if we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason & Dixon . . . but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other."

-- 1876

[Shermann]

1. Except the ignorant, self-serving side is claiming to be the patriots. nt

[Attilatheblond]

5. Self labeling doesn't count,

especially when done by the ignorant

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. The Republicons don't own July 4th, but they do own January 6th. . . . . nt

[FirstLight]

2. Pretty prescient...

...

[COL Mustard]

6. And forward-thinking too!

Sorry, I'll see myself out now! Tip your servers!

[ancianita]

3. As with the first, however, the war will be won with whichever side has the most firepower and perseverance.

Or, this time, the U.S. military will settle the whole thing on behalf of the U.S. Constitution, with a temporary military command of government until national elections are held once again.

[Model35mech]

4. It's not close to "the near future" from whence Grant spoke

But I think he was prescient.

[Attilatheblond]

7. He was a smart man

Seems like he could evaluate and draw logical conclusions. Might be why he drank.

[Model35mech]

8. Or it was the sobriety of a man dying of throat cancer...

I respect Grant. He's really an icon of a small failing nobody of a man rising to a challenge that demanded his greatness. And HE DELIVERED!

Imagine... a Military academy grad stuck on the west coast doing, well nothing more than drinking. And then in lonlieness and dispair returning to his father in laws store to provide for his wife and family. And THEN, with all odds against the guy who graduated at the bottom of his class, he sees the solution to the siege of Vicksburg, and to victory in Virginia and so salvation of the Union!

God Bless Him! And I hope for many more to follow in his path. We will surely need them soon.

[anamnua]

10. Interestingly he was a Repub president

Believe it or not, in those days (at least by the standard of the times) the Repubs were the good guys and the Dems the bad guys. I wonder what he would have made of the modern inversion.

[NNadir]

12. He was not dying of throat cancer in 1876. He was instead....

...concluding his tenure as the 2nd greatest President of the United States in the 19th century.

He has been unfairly maligned by historians of a certain sort, but he was very much an essential President, understood in his times as a great American both here and abroad. He was the first American President to tour the world after leaving office and was feted and honored throughout Europe and Asia.

[anamnua]

13. Duplicate

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[Solomon]

11. Grant was a very great man. He got cheated in the history books because America let the losers write the history.

[anamnua]

14. Quite so

Pro-Confederacy 'lost cause' mythos propagandists did a hatchet job on him in the early twentieth century.