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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy is Cory Booker on CNN saying Biden
will make the right decision? WTF? My Party has lost its mind.
senseandsensibility
(24,974 posts)I guess when these people seemed to come to their senses for a few days, it was just because of the shooting. Temporary pause in the insanity.
Glorfindel
(10,175 posts)Or just not say anything at all? Maybe there is just too much tumult and shouting all around.
Qutzupalotl
(15,824 posts)Because he did. Apparently the senator was asleep.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)Saying he'll make the right decision is implying he's still not decided and Biden has been crystal fucking clear he's running. So, either Booker is confused or he's trying to create uncertainty.
soandso
(1,631 posts)that Pelosi did - acting as though Joe never made a decision when he did! Fuck these mind games.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)over and over for the past three weeks....
Booker seems to be trying to keep his ass on the fence,
so he can fall off on whichever side prevails.
Deminpenn
(17,506 posts)Nt
soandso
(1,631 posts)which is that he already made his decision and is NOT stepping down.
NoveltySocks
(415 posts)Because if this keeps up, we're ALL going to find out...
shrike3
(5,370 posts)Yorkie Mom
(16,595 posts)Biden will make a decision. It was pointed out that Biden has said he did make a decision, but Corey seems to think it's not a done deal or will change his mind.
brush
(61,033 posts)which is now FOX-lite, voicing anything other than his strong, unwavering support for Joe Biden.
BigDemVoter
(4,700 posts)How many fucking times do they need to hear it?
TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)is somehow accused of working for Putin/Chump/the wealthy including Obama and Pelosi except Biden and his inner circle.
Far more likely is a bunch of folks hand waiving real concerns that Biden is not only unable to climb out of a real hole but is also a credible threat to damage down ballot as well and ardent admirers of Biden just won't consider the possibility at all, preferring to lose ridin' than to win any other way.
Blue no matter who turns out to be gaslighting/a cudgel to get folks in line and it is actually blue as long as it is my dude(tte).
At a minimum, I find it incredulous that everyone thinks this campaign is rocking and rolling.
The wagons have circled so tightly that there is no room for improvement and that is poison.
shrike3
(5,370 posts)I haven't seen Booker's interview, granted.
I just find it interesting that Joe's supporters are either progressive or people of color.
TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)Blue + 29% or more is a whole lot different on the ground than Blue even or +/- 3.
Yes, they have to be mindful of their election prospects because WE need them to do anything and at least as critically if too many of these districts and states are lost then so is Biden.
shrike3
(5,370 posts)TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)the conditions looking very different from different perspectives and pressures.
So...you're saying contested seats can be disregarded?
I would say you are not because that would be irrational.
Deek1935
(1,055 posts)If you're in love with polls, then polls are tied. No evidence Joe would lose to Trump. And polls are NON-PREDICTIVE in the first place. It's all SPECULATION and pants-shitting and SO much of this SHIT is being pushed by rich DONORS.
But there is evidence, based on HISTORY and the only predictive model that has never failed, the Lichtman 13 Keys model. Without Joe's INCUMBENCY and DECISIVE PRIMARY WIN keys, we most likely lose 6 keys and lose to Trump.
This shit needs to stop! Polls, pundits, debates, and age do not determine presidential winners. Never have, never will.
kelly1mm
(5,756 posts)lees1975
(7,046 posts)And there are several polls which show Biden up by 11 in Virginia, 5 in Michigan and Wi, and 4 in PA. So which poll do you go with. 538 gives Biden 54-46 odds of winning at least 277 votes, based on a whole array of polls and political indicators.
kelly1mm
(5,756 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(16,406 posts)ENOUGH ALREADY.
Rafi
(281 posts)And just possibly they don't all, or even the majority agree with you.
MerrilyMerrily
(230 posts)87% of them chose Joe.
The reason Democrats don't win more races is that a great freaking lump of people who either prefer the Democratic candidate, or simply dislike the Republican candidate more, do not bother to actually vote.
As Hal Sparks pointed out, before the debate Joe Biden had an enthusiasm problem with regard to the great lump, but then enthusiasm for him increased significantly because the media attacks were so obviously unfair. It got people angry - on Joe's behalf - including a lot of people who usually don't feel inspired enough to fill out a ballot.
IMO, these stories and statements depicting Democratic leaders as trying to push Joe out are redirecting that anger towards the Democratic Party.
If the Democratic leaders and operatives and donors force out the presumptive nominee in favor of some kind of reality game show runoff at the last minute, that will come across as panicky and hysterical, like Chicken Little, not to mention bullying and mean. Why should the low-enthusiasm lump take these Democrats seriously when they insist Trumplicans will make the sky fall?
Sure, millions will vote D no matter how angry they are. but the lump of non-voting Ds or anti-Rs, who could cause a Republican defeat of truly humiliating size if they voted, will go back to not feeling inspired enough to bother.
GreenWave
(12,641 posts)-- No!
--What about now?
-- No!
--And now?
--No!
BootinUp
(51,323 posts)kerry-is-my-prez
(10,283 posts)JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)understand?
kelly1mm
(5,756 posts)already did make a decision (even sending a formal letter stating such). They want him to (totally voluntarily, natch) make the decision they want him to make.
Plus allows them to say 'I never said he should drop out' with a straight face .....