It seems to me the whole purpose of this psyop,

[rzemanfl]

and the eddies and currents of the internecine warfare that flow from it, is to dishearten people to the point that they will believe an outcome that is unbelievable. Failing that, it hopes that people will be so demoralized that they will not fight hard enough when they try to steal it in the courts.

This shit has to stop. Biden is the candidate. He should beat the corrupt motherfucker in a landslide. It should not take a billion dollars to do it. Any other result is unacceptable and would lead to the subjugation or dissolution of the nation.

Like Mineral Man, I am too old for this. Goodnight.

[Walleye]

1. Same here, old. They are ruining my golden years.

[greatauntoftriplets]

19. The thought of them taking away or severely cutting SS and/or Medicare is downright cruel.

How will we live without that? Because of health issues I've run out of most of my retirement savings and I'm not that old. None of them are life threatening.

Maybe they'll shove us all into poorhouses.

[chicoescuela]

26. Nope, just back to work. Who is going to perform all the shitty jobs once

all the ‘illegals’ are shipped out or stuffed into camps? You and me bro. All us idiots that paid into social security for 50 years are not going to get to enjoy our golden years.

[NoSheep]

45. The economy will be horrific for average people. poverty will increase and crime will rise.

We won’t have any basic services. Private prisons will flourish. A tiny minority of white men are certain they are chosen to lead the rest of us and take everything we have and their psychotic dream will be fulfilled. With no federal assistance, the ultra wealthy will take over all the coastal land currently held by the working poor and middle class. Hurricanes will wipe them away forever. The fallout seems endless. Beg every stranger you feel you can to get out and vote against these madmen.

[whathehell]

44. Don't forget...The Republican rank and file

love Social.Security and Medicare too..
This is a big LOSING issue for Repugs.

[bhikkhu]

68. Once the minority seize power they can dictate policy

and "rule by consent" goes out the window. Not to be too cynical, but a government doing things against the best interests of the people is basically how an oligarchy operates, and the GOP has reformed itself in the last few years to operate as an oligarchy. If you read the Project 2025, it's basically a road map to end majority rule. If they gain power they won't care if what they do is popular or not. The majority of the news organizations are already owned by billionaires who are backing Trump anyway, and enough people are already trained to think as they're told to think. They are pretty close to being able to pull it off.

[Rebl2]

56. It won't

just happen to democrats, but middle and lower income republicans as well. That is why democrats running for office must hammer this point home every speech they give, and every time they talk to any media. Republicans and democrats won’t like having their SS and Medicare cut, guarantee you.

[NoSheep]

43. Mine are more inflammation years, but hear you.

[soldierant]

77. "The Golden Years have come at last -

The Golden Years can kiss my a$$."

[NoSheep]

79. Yeah, I'm with you!

[Tom Dyer]

76. I mean!!! nt

[Think. Again.]

2. Well said.

[c-rational]

3. K&R. Well said.

[2naSalit]

4. Exactly.

[Wild blueberry]

5. With you!

Thank you.

[PatSeg]

6. Just when I think the worst was behind us,

something else shows up in the news. Yes, I am too old for this shit and I'm exhausted.

[ms liberty]

7. This.

[PortTack]

8. More of this...less pearl clutching. We all knew the rhetoric would get worse...don't buy it

[bdamomma]

31. Yes

they are really pushing the propaganda full tilt. All I keep on thinking is Shock Doctrine. Don't buy into it, they want to scare and manipulate us. All this is gaslighting, they want to keep us mentally exhausted, don't buy into it. reading these posts and some DU'ers are keeping me sane. And this is all to get us in a lather don't buy it.

I think they maybe the ones who are afraid because we will be the victors again.

[SamuelTheThird]

9. You think Pelosi, Jeffries, and Pelosi are in on a psy op?

Occam's razor- they are deeply worried about the election

Now, some of the media, yes, they are a different story obviously

[tinrobot]

12. Yeah, if it was Manchin I could see it. But not these Democrats.

There's gotta be a deeper reason for the freak out.

What the HELL do they know that we don't?

[SamuelTheThird]

14. Swing state polling

It has been bad, the public polling. Not with Biden DEEPLY behind, but behind consistently for months.

There are reports the in-house Dem polling is bad.

There's another debate scheduled, too. I mean, no one sees a danger in that? The debate didn't change the race a huge amount, but a little bit is all it takes.

[Ligyron]

18. and now Schumer?

Yeah, what's up with that? Even if Joe could be replaced it would be with Kamala who, given the racist, anti woman attitudes and yeah, even among some of our own in their deep subconscious, she may well be even more unelectable.

It was all going so well too ... Hillary was sure to be elected and would continue on with the great task of bringing America into, well ... at least the 20th century like the rest of civilized world, building on the great works begun under the Obama administration but then Comey and...it's been bad and getting worse ever since. Where were all these goobers hiding?

[shrike3]

28. Show us the in-house polling. I'm not taking anybody's word for it.

[BadgerMom]

35. Some here believe those of us who are willing to fight

for our ticket are being unrealistic. My take is that the polls have been off for at least the past 4 years. One-off elections have been wrong when Republicans have been favored. The referendums on reproductive choice, even in red states, have been won by pro-choice turnout. The 2022 midterm was going to be a red wave if polls and pundits were believed and it was perhaps a red ripple. No wave in sight. Also, the French were expected to elect LePen. Not so, though.

Polls have extrapolated big numbers from very small ones. Many people don’t have landlines. Many others won’t pick up for an unknown number.

How can we put full faith in polls when we all know about these recent results? Maybe I am unrealistic. But I prefer to trust a seasoned pol who is truly a good man and a patriot than all of the questionable polls.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

50. Not polling but money

The billionaire class is withholding money

[japple]

74. Right. Afraid they won't get the money for the down-ballot races.

[Blue Full Moon]

82. Corporate democrats

[rzemanfl]

46. What sane person is not deeply worried about the election?

[phylny]

10. I'm shouting to the people in the back!

I do not know one person who is wavering in their support of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. No one. No one is paying attention to this crap, no one is heeding this crap.

[farmboy]

13. It's just not true where I am. Hearing Biden doubts from numerous democratic voters.

[onecaliberal]

23. Yet not concerned about a fucking rapist.

Will vote for some unknown rando, not the black woman.
I know all about their concerns.

[NoSheep]

39. I know good people who call Joe feeble and in my opinion, he had a panic attack during the debate. When that bastard

called Joe Biden the biggest liar he’s ever known…I lost my shit and if you watch it, you’ll see that he was just completely gobsmacked by even having to stand on the same stage with that predator and then he got gas lit by the biggest lie anyone ever heard told by a liar. Even good people I know don’t seem to get this. Even among our own DU members, there are those who don’t get how serious this is. I say we need to slap the metaphorical shit out of people who think we have time. Who think we have time for their nuanced opinions. We are 5 months away from complete chaos that will impact every person we know. I’m on a mission to set people straight with facts they can understand. That is what we Must Do.

[shrike3]

29. Where are you, pray tell?

I live in Camp Real World, and the voters I know are barely paying attention.

Numerous voters, huh? Mr. low-poster.

[Captain Zero]

70. I guess he is out in the field.

no reply yet.

[BadgerMom]

38. Anecdotal evidence from any of us can't hold much sway.

On the Fourth among family in Utah everyone said they’d vote for Biden even in a Weekend at Bernie’s situation. And that was before he had really rallied as he has since.

You say tomato; I say tomahto.

[shrike3]

61. Sure ya are.

[democrattotheend]

63. Same

Although I will say everyone I know who usually votes Democratic is voting for him. But a lot of people wish they had a different option.

[wiggs]

11. It's the media and the corporations that own them or CEOs that run them. Think they would

jump on board for a different candidate? Or would it be dems in disarray 24/7?

[karin_sj]

15. I'm so sick of this crap

I thought the worst was over and that now everyone could focus on the republican convention and just how insane, dangerous, and evil these people are. But no, the Joe bashing feeding frenzy continues unabated and keeps adding more prominent people to the list of critics. What the F is going on? I feel like I'm in an alternate universe and nothing makes sense anymore.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

16. It just makes me mad and determined.

[Bluethroughu]

17. Agree!

I'm passed demoralized, sad, stunned, scared, or depressed. I'm ready for what may be, or not.....are the Republicans?

[meow2u3]

20. I don't mean to sound tinfoil hat

But is there a possibility that the media is peddling propaganda by deep faking interviews with Democrats, clipping sound bites to make it appear as if Democrats are trying to push Biden out of the race at the last minute? They got caught once twisting Sen. Coons' words, making it sound like "I'm concerned about Biden...", not bothering to quote the entire sentences?

[NoSheep]

41. Very possible. We'd be naive to think otherwise.

[Aussie105]

21. The psyop/manipulation/propaganda worked years ago.

When Hillary was targeted as being unfit for office, because (reasons) and people just accepted that.

(That Hillary? Unfaithful husband and she does nothing, besides she stumbled getting into that car, and a woman! Definitely unfit! etc.)

Result? Well, we have seen what Trump brought in his 4 years, he was an agent of chaos!

I'm thinking a lot of Americans don't buy the static from the MSM anymore, and are more astute in deciding what is presented to them by the MSM as being nothing more than manipulation and Orwellian mind control.
More prepared to identify manipulative BS and ignore it.

Hopefully, I'm right.

EDIT: Dare I say it? "Morans, grow a brian!" (That is aimed at the sheeple of America, not DU members.)

[Captain Zero]

69. It was a psyop on Al Franken too

imho

[sarchasm]

22. KnR

[nankerphelge]

24. Exactly

And the only thing the bed wetters are accomplishing is writing a narrative for MAGA to latch onto and say that the election was stolen when Biden wins.

[yorkster]

30. Not bedwetters. More like arsonists.

Bedwetters is a David Plouffe term. The right loves it. We should stop.using it.
If we're still, you know, a freaking party...

[WordsFromOurSponsor]

58. Thank you

Getting really tired of people throwing insults towards those with genuine concerns. Talk about demoralizing. When people in your supposed coalition not only ignore every concern that is raised, but turn around and insult you for having the audacity to speak them, well, we're basically telling people to stay home and not vote. Now the knives are out for formerly trusted Dem politicians such as Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries and Schiff because they dare to raise concerns.

[travelingthrulife]

75. Then they better start telling the truth about their 'feelings' and speculations

We have already voted in the primary and it is political suicide to do this.

[calimary]

25. Damn straight!

I will NOT be demoralized.

[NoSheep]

27. I think you are exactly right.

[PoliWrangler]

32. kick, i'm done with these mofos

they can live in their chaos, i choose to live in the light

[johnnyplankton]

33. Psyop? Please explain.

DU is sounding like Alex Jones...

[NoSheep]

42. What is your definition of psyop? People covertly cooperating to affect other's consciousness about, in this case,

their existential predicament. we are absolutely experiencing a mass political brainwashing to feel helpless. We are being gas lit to think that we are unreasonable and ultimately helpless. WE are in the majority and they want us to believe that we aren’t. All that is a psyop.

[rzemanfl]

48. Perfect response. Thank you. n/t

[shrike3]

62. Here 16 years and now you're moved to post. Good for you.

[Tumbulu]

34. You called it- thanks- I am old too.

And fed up with how people are falling so easily for the psyop.

[BurnDoubt]

36. Absolutely

This whole line of crappola is absolutely needless and absolutely unhelpful. IF this isn't planned and presented to wreak confusion and doubt among us, then why is it working so well? Textbook Bullying; Playing on the insecurity and weak faith in our progressive community. Classic Voodoo, to you. Stop worrying about Joe's "weakness", and worry more about your own. Dig down. Find your Courage. It's there. If you don't, use it, we're lost. If EVERYONE can keep the faith, and don't discourage our community, and do the GOTV with all our Hearts committed, the worst COULD happen, but at least we know we did ALL we could to save our Democracy and our Future. We can do this. Absolutely.

[LookingGlassOnion]

37. No, its so the wealthy maintain disproportionate influence for their own personal profit.

They aren't donors. They are running a protection racket.

"Don't unilaterally disarm in the face of citizen's united" they say with knifes behind their backs.

[slightlv]

40. You're not the only one to old for this crap!

I fought for change when I was younger and could walk straight, instead of bent over with a bad back. My mouth was also a whole lot louder!

While I completely understand the desire for younger blood, and for us Boomers to retire and move over for the next generation (or the one after that)... NOW is not that time. If all things had been equal and we were on a "normal" election process, things could have been different. But things are NOT copasetic. Nothing is in balance yet - not even the American people. So, now is not the time to change horses midstream. Besides, and I know this is probably because I'm on "this" side of the equation, but I find the whole thing to smack of ageism. I'm already fighting for women's rights we won 50 years ago... and I see the time coming (and already have been in the fight once again) for disability rights. I detest see us, ourselves, adding ageism on top of that. I know it's really hard for people in this country to understand; we're not raised the way those in the East or other cultures are raised to respect and honor those who have reached old age. Here, youth is celebrated, old age is hidden away in nursing homes. Frankly, I think it sucks.

[LymphocyteLover]

47. Who is running this "psyop" and why are top Dems involved?

[rzemanfl]

49. The same people who helped TSF beat Hillary.

Top Dems are seeing its influence and trying to fix it with money promised by wealthy donors. That's why I said it should not take a billion dollars to defeat the TSF.

[LymphocyteLover]

54. very depressing

[rzemanfl]

55. The Russians are involved.

I don't know why top Dems are doing what they are. Big money seems to be involved. I don't trust any sort of polling at this point.

[LymphocyteLover]

60. partly the media is doing us a grave disservice with their misleading reporting

https://www.muellershewrote.com/p/who-can-we-trust

[MaeScott]

51. This is a full on unrelenting op

We don’t know who polled who and who splat data. Polls are useless this far out except to drive a narrative. The RNC convention is filled with Dem running points but our leadership seems to be dancing to a different drumbeat.

[BoRaGard]

52. Support Joe and Kamala

because its the right thing to do.

[CincyDem]

53. The whole timing of this psyop is to make sure nobody is focused on Milwaukee where...

…the RNC is explaining to the faithful how they’re going to:

Fuck women’s healthcare & reproductive freedom.
Fuck seniors’s financial future and social security.
Fuck veteran’s benefits.
Fuck lbgtq rights back to the 4th century.
Pretty much fuck 275 years of democracy.

If the last 2 weeks wasn’t a version of the Clash’s “Should [he] stay or should [he] go” playing in a 24/7 loop…they’d be left with a litany of who’s getting g screwed by their plans. How better to hide the reality by pointing at Biden and yelling “look…over there…(old) squirrel”.

Asshats.

[Akacia]

57. I am so disgusted by this whole thing!

Ridin with Biden all the way!!!

[Progressive dog]

59. I keep thinking that there are limits

to what they will do to Biden before they realize that it is too late to win with anyone else. They keep proving me wrong.

[suegeo]

64. This is like the bots on the blue bird site before I even knew what a bot was

The troll farms out of some Russian city flooding the field with manure.

Cambridge Analytica sending negative targeted messages to push down the African American vote. And probably other minorities as well.

Cambridge Analytica and the NRA doing good only knows what with the gun nuts.

Maybe someone in the future can give a name to what is going on with this nonsense in the "news".

"Anonymous sources say..."
"Aides close to Obama say..." name a fucking name.

It's probably some hostile foreign enemy, say like Russia, trying advance a piece of shit republican. The convicted felon who is awaiting sentencing, twice impeached, adjudicated rapist. Who lies and lies and lies.

[OldBaldy1701E]

65. Hear Hear!

https://i.postimg.cc/3x2gtHPV/temp-Imagevif-Ze-E.avif

[ffr]

66. You beat me to it. This psyop is stealing all of the air in the room.

The GOP must be frustrated as hell.

[czarjak]

67. Just Say No

Nancy learned 'em?

[Tweedy]

71. Ditto

Good night

[Griefbird]

72. If it is well planned...

It's looking like the party wants Biden out. That's not promising for November; however, if Biden announces at the convention that he is dropping out and hands his delegates to Kamala Harris, and a good vice presidential candidate is generally agreed on in advance, they might avoid a floor fight. This might work if Biden can give his supporters reason to be enthusiastic about the new ticket. The news cycle could well give a boost to the Democrats. I have supported Biden all along, and still do, but I'm looking for a plan B here.

[Niagara]

73. Kicked and Rec'd!

[Torchlight]

78. Putin really wants Kyiv, and there's more than enough useful idiots in the U.S. to see that done.

Not only has Putin divided the nation's fabric by use of these useful idiots, he's also energized them to speak as Prophets of Gloom. And they're going to town with it. Horrible consequences worldwide should he succeed, and the Chorus of Doubt currently cowering behind the safety of implication and "what ifs" will begin singing an Elegy of Freedom should that day happen.

[rzemanfl]

81. I am washing socks. BBL

Aw shucks, the puppet show ended before I got back. Sigh.

[Torchlight]

83. Delete. Copy