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The Democratic leaders pointed Biden to polls suggesting his candidacy could damage the partys hopes of controlling the House and Senate
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer, in separate private meetings with President Biden last week, told Biden his continued candidacy imperils the partys ability to control either chamber of Congress next year.
Jeffries met with Biden on Thursday night at the White House and Schumer met with him on Saturday in Rehoboth Beach, Del. In the meetings, each congressional leader discussed their members concerns that Biden could deprive them of congressional majorities, giving Republicans a much easier path to push through legislation, according to four people briefed on the meetings who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private encounters.
In a separate one-on-one conversation, a person close to Biden told the president directly that he should end his candidacy, saying that was the only way to preserve his legacy and save the country from another Trump term, the person said. The president responded that he adamantly disagreed with that opinion and that he is the best candidate to defeat Trump. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a private conversation.
More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/17/jeffries-schumer-biden-hurting-democrats/
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Model35mech
(2,047 posts)NO ONE CAN TRULY EASE THAT FEAR.
If we bring HER back there is NO GUARANTEE she will win.
If we Bring ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH! back, there is not guarantee she will win
If we promote a novel candidate, there is NO GUARANTEE He/She would win.
HEY Chicken Little!!! Don't claim the sky is falling! It IS NOT.
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)If Biden drops out the nominee will likely be Harris. Or it should be.
Deek1935
(1,055 posts)want a say.
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)This whole thing is a clusterfuck.
bigtree
(94,269 posts)...how can they not hear themselves and see the effect of this right as the RNC should be in our target.
I don't believe they have the best interest of this election at heart. Witness this arrogant second-guessing of our voted for nominee.
They not only have no respect for the democratic process, they have no clue about how to win a presidential election.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)think they might be.
chiffondior
(37 posts).....I have always disliked Schumer. The rumor has long been that he is terrified of AOC primarying him. I hope that his worst fear happens in 2026, assuming we still are allowed to vote by then.
bdamomma
(69,532 posts)the sky is falling!!! I wonder what spooked Hakeem and Schumer??? Does it have anything to do with VP Harris????
Sympthsical
(10,969 posts)I guess we'll see what we'll see.
Mind the slopes.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Link to tweet
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FULL THREAD unrolled HERE:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1809311013839466846.html
The idea that Dems will do this & will end up feeling unified, that Harris will come out popular, that "the dynamics of the race will shift," all of that ... fucking deranged. Deranged in such a perfectly characteristic Dem way.
"This person/policy/slogan/approach has been irredeemably slimed by Republicans & a hostile media -- let's throw it overboard!" That's the Dem way. Always with this starry-eyed hope that they can reset, start over, get it right this time. Just as one example -- other people have aggregated these -- there have been "calls" for every Dem nominee of the last 30 years to step aside. Dems practically delight in abandoning their own people, policies, & principles in response to bad-faith pressure. They f'ing love it.
But, as I've been saying for, oh, 20 years now, the situation is structural. The current situation is an outcome of a particular incentive structure & that structure will remain exactly the same if Harris takes over the ticket.
For centrists, journalists, pundits, *even Dem electeds*, the way you prove you are a Reasonable, Serious Person in DC is by shitting on Dems. For the left, the way you prove you are a true radical is by shitting on Dems. For the right ... well, obviously.
Everyone's professional incentives are to shit on Dems. Dwelling on Trump & his fascist movement -- however justified by the objective facts -- just doesn't bring that juice, doesn't get the clicks & the high-fives, doesn't feel brave & iconoclastic. It's just ... no fun.
So, say Biden stepped aside in favor of Harris tomorrow. How long until the vapid gossips we call political reporters find something wrong with her, some alleged flaw they just have to write 192 stories about? How long until the hopped-up mediocrities we call pundits ...
...find some "counter-intuitive" reason that the new Dem ticket is flawed after all? How long until the irredentist left gets over the temporary thrill of its new Harris memes & remembers that she's a cop & turns on her? How long before the ambient racism & misogyny in the US...
... lead center-leftists to conclude that, sure, they'd support a black woman, just not *this* black woman? In other words: how long before everyone reverts to their comfortable, familiar identity & narratives?
About 30 f'ing seconds, is my guess.
Dems uniting, feeling good, telling a clear story, receiving credit for their accomplishments--all of that is *impossible* in the current environment. It won't be allowed. Dems can punch themselves in the face all they want, abandon whoever they want, apologize all they want...
... they simply will not be allowed to turn the page & start fresh, because everyone's incentives remain the same. If they did that, elites, including media elites, would have no choice but to openly & frankly grapple with Trump & what he represents & they *don't want to*.
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Mersky
(5,340 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 18, 2024, 12:06 AM - Edit history (1)
Just today, I spoke with two people whove not heard about Project 2025, but weve got to go through the pain of dropping an incumbent? It just seems so simple, run against their fascism, not our Biden. Since I cannot fully review internal polling aside from some slick highlight reports, this is the best Ive got.
tRump will continue to crab walk away from Project 2025, but the only way he can do even half the crap he spews about is by using that damned plan. The media should be metaphorically stapling the 900 pages to his generous rump, but instead were here just wasting time.
Biden looks and sounds great in the Oval, speaking at rallies, and gosh, on the tarmac in his aviators, duh. I have no idea why in studio is a problem for him, but maybe he just needs to appear more where he shines.
I respect Schumer, Jeffries, and Schiff, but they better be damned sure this is the route as Im still standing over here with Biden.
orangecrush
(30,261 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)orangecrush
(30,261 posts)Is growing exponentially
senseandsensibility
(24,978 posts)they're suggesting.
ucrdem
(15,720 posts)Schumer and Jeffries promised their cohorts to bring their concerns to Biden; Jeffries did it after last week's press conference, Schumer immediately before the shooting.
This parrot is dead, ma'am.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)and start trying to win this election.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)Yorkie Mom
(16,595 posts)If you are upset by the news, it should be trashed.
Emile
(42,293 posts)Yorkie Mom
(16,595 posts)Is that correct?
Emile
(42,293 posts)what happens.