Is it possible all of them actually want to lose?

[jgmiller]

I know it sounds crazy but maybe they actually want to lose the presidency and even the house. If Biden wins and we get the house then what do they have to run on next time? There are a lot of democratic members that have made good money and names for themselves running against Trump and MAGA for 8 years. It's a pretty good gig you don't actually have to do much work because nothing ever gets passed. If you win it all then you actually have to stop complaining and the sound bites dry up and you have to work.

This is a VERY cynical take on what's going on but at this point it's the only thing that makes sense. I'm sorry they aren't all this stupid, they have to know they are destroying a unified party, THEIR OWN PARTY!

[lastlib]

1. MAGAts will still be out there in four years.

They're like poison ivy--toxic and hard to kill off. And damned nasty to live with.

We can still run against them in the next cycle, because they'll still be trying to destroy democracy.

[awesomerwb1]

4. What makes you think trump won't pull a Bukele

and run for a third term in 2028?

Read the lowlights of Project 2025. The MAGAts are setting everything up to stay in power for decades.

Could he pull a Bukele?

https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2023/12/06/how-nayib-bukele-is-breaking-presidential-term-limits-in-el-salvador

At midnight on November 30th Nayib Bukele stepped back from the presidency of El Salvador to run again in elections in February. The six months between now and June 1st, the date of the inauguration, may be the only period for a long time that he is not at the helm of the Central American country. The constitution bars presidents from serving a second consecutive term. But the 42-year-old has arranged an impressive show to suggest that his bid for re-election is legal. He is the first person to run for re-election since Maximiliano Hernández Martínez, a military dictator, did in 1939. How is Mr Bukele subverting term limits, and will he succeed?

Some of his stratagems are blatantly illegal. No fewer than six articles of the constitution ban a second consecutive term. But in 2021 Mr Bukele appointed new judges to the constitutional court. It swiftly reinterpreted the articles, ruling that a president could run again should he step back from the presidency six months before the inauguration. His interim role seems barely distinguishable from his presidential one. Mr Bukele will keep his security detail, official residences and cars, among other things. The legislature, dominated by his party, granted him permission to campaign.

[Fiendish Thingy]

2. You're right

It sounds crazy.

If Dems win the trifecta this year, then in 2028 they will run on 8 years of productive progressive good governance with measurable benefits for all working Americans.

[musicblind]

3. No.

No, that is not a possibility.

[LeftInTX]

5. It seems like the Democrats actually want to lose these days by wanting overthrow Biden