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AOC - We are being propagandized. Share good news (Original Post) MaryMagdaline Jul 2024 OP
I do not want install tiktok Layzeebeaver Jul 2024 #1
You don't have to install TikTok. View it through a web browser, even on a phone Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #3
yea, already tried that. no joy. Layzeebeaver Jul 2024 #4
No worries. But try setting cookie security/privacy to Session so they don't persist Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #12
No thanks RandiFan1290 Jul 2024 #6
This is a really powerful, important message WITH a solution Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #2
Excellent post moniss Jul 2024 #7
Thx. If I'm right, it is only because AOC is so right. And Joe is a great President. * IS *. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #9
Best in my lifetime and I moniss Jul 2024 #15
Yes. Like it or not, Joe gets things done because he knows how it works. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #16
Agree DoBW Jul 2024 #17
I get it! Just repeat the truth of progress whenever you see or hear it. Don't count on the media to talk about it. jaxexpat Jul 2024 #5
This is nothing new. Corporations have a lot of power, and that includes the media. JohnSJ Jul 2024 #8
It is new, the resolve to refresh a positive resistance that is progressive and upbeat. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #10
You want me to list some of the legislation that allowed corporations to become so powerful. The repeal JohnSJ Jul 2024 #13
No, I don't want or need you to list them. You just don't get it. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #14
I do get what she is saying, but it sure isn't going to happen over night, and that is the problem because we JohnSJ Jul 2024 #18
Gotcha NJCher Jul 2024 #19
+1. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #24
Well making long posts pointing out all the ways it won't happen doesn't help it happen one bit Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #23
She's right as what's happening is a repeat of 2016 and we need to be aggressive in countering it. cstanleytech Jul 2024 #11
I love and admire Alexandria... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #20
AOC gets it! She will be a great President someday. Emile Jul 2024 #21
excellent... myohmy2 Jul 2024 #22

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
3. You don't have to install TikTok. View it through a web browser, even on a phone
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:04 AM
Jul 2024

Video helpfully is captioned in the video itself.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
12. No worries. But try setting cookie security/privacy to Session so they don't persist
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:03 AM
Jul 2024

Apps capture the most data and the most identifying data, and thus are the most valuable to companies and sometimes to their government overlords. There is no control over duration or blockage.

Cookies capture less data and so are less valuable plus they can be blocked or routinely wiped (when browser is exited).

It seems a good compromise. I block X and restrict TikTok. I block by default.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
2. This is a really powerful, important message WITH a solution
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:03 AM
Jul 2024

Counter-prop and initiate propagation of good news! The mass media are waning and we have power by other means including social media.

Whenever possible, share good news. This is not pollyanna style of "Oh think unicorns and flowers and butterflies". Nor is it yet another delightful puppy/kitten video, though those have their place and uses.

This is things like: such-and-such union achieved a great wage settlement, improved working conditions; a community organized to help vulnerable people with health care; a new tech helps people manage social media usage better, ... whatever it is.

Celebrate wins, advances, victories. Include details as to how things got done.

Workers have power. The middle class has power. Wealth and income inequality are the greatest single cause of middle/working class woes. We can change that. It will change, one way or another because it is not sustainable. We can change it peacefully (with some unrest) through political power and that is vastly preferable to violent revolution.

Oh, and by the way, expose Vance's attempt to subvert middle class power while plotting middle class tax hikes coupled with rich tax cuts.

The middle class and working poor are the Democratic power base. Republicans call it class warfare when we win for our base. So be it. Make them feel it.

"Yes, we can!"

moniss

(9,056 posts)
7. Excellent post
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:46 AM
Jul 2024

and you are so right. I've been saying for a long time we do not have to let the media force us to fill the time with responses to their propaganda and instead we need to push into those spaces as much as we can with as much good news about all the good things we've gotten done with Joe.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
9. Thx. If I'm right, it is only because AOC is so right. And Joe is a great President. * IS *. . . . nt
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:49 AM
Jul 2024

moniss

(9,056 posts)
15. Best in my lifetime and I
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:09 AM
Jul 2024

have been seeing all of the industrial parks now have all the help wanted signs out and it's been that way for a couple of years now. Years ago in the '70's when we lost so many jobs those signs went away and I thought they would never come back. Lower drug prices, higher wages, lot's of infrastructure projects going on and a renewed relationship with our allies and so much more. All accomplished with an obstructionist Congress etc. Good job by Joe and his people.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
5. I get it! Just repeat the truth of progress whenever you see or hear it. Don't count on the media to talk about it.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:44 AM
Jul 2024

That would be a long, soul-killingly depressing wait. Because their primary goal is to kill any enthusiasm which might encourage you to go to the polls. It's not by coincidence or accident that, in America, the most reliably unbiased source of actual facts about current events is "The Comedy Channel", and has been for over a quarter century.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
10. It is new, the resolve to refresh a positive resistance that is progressive and upbeat. . . . nt
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:50 AM
Jul 2024
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
13. You want me to list some of the legislation that allowed corporations to become so powerful. The repeal
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:04 AM
Jul 2024

of Glass–Steagall, the 1996 communications act, and Citizens United by the Supreme Court, to name a few, which effectively blocked the ability to enact limits on campaign spending. The Citizens United decision opened the floodgates to the billions of dollars that have since poured into the election system, enabling those with access to concentrated wealth to have vastly more influence over our political system than the average American.


 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
18. I do get what she is saying, but it sure isn't going to happen over night, and that is the problem because we
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:35 AM
Jul 2024

have reached an existential moment in history where if this election goes the wrong way, it's over.

We can organize and think all the positive thoughts we want, but when you have billionaires throwing massive amounts of money to propagandize the effort against the regular people, I am afraid we may be a day late and a dollar short.

Just look at what is happening within the Democratic party now. Big money donors through fear are trying to push the party's elected nominee out, by pushing the theme that Biden cannot win against trump, and we must have a new candidate, and if that happens, you can almost bet that they will choose a candidate that they view as favorable to their interests.

There is an AP/IPOS poll out today with the headline that 60% of registered Democrats think Biden should step down. After three weeks of the media and big donors pushing publicly that Biden can't win, is there any surprise that would be the polls results. Fear is a very powerful weapon. It persuaded us to invade Iraq based on the WMD lie. Of course what the poll didn't headline was that those Democrats would vote for Biden if he is the nominee.

Social media, the MSM, the press manipulate what people should think. They do that by embedding comentary within reporting the news.

I wish I could be optimistic.

NJCher

(43,162 posts)
19. Gotcha
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:44 AM
Jul 2024

You fell for the surrender first option that the wealthy so helpfully provide.

Over and done for you.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
23. Well making long posts pointing out all the ways it won't happen doesn't help it happen one bit
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 08:17 AM
Jul 2024

You still don't get it.

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
11. She's right as what's happening is a repeat of 2016 and we need to be aggressive in countering it.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:52 AM
Jul 2024

GiqueCee

(4,253 posts)
20. I love and admire Alexandria...
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:44 AM
Jul 2024

... and I hope I live long enough to see her as President. Sadly, it ain't just the Right spewing bullshit.

My connection to her TikTok message ended before she was finished., I there a complete version somewhere?

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