Question: Why is no one talking about the obvious problem about how a shooter got a chance to shoot someone

[Baitball Blogger]

at an open rally?

At Trump's PA rally, Crooks must have carried in the AR-15. In plain sight. The only time that people noticed him was when he climbed up on the building. And even then, it took far too long for this combination of factors to register with legal authorities. Man walks in with lethal weapon. Man seeks out high ground.

It's obvious that the Republicans have achieved their objective: They have normalized the carrying of weapons in society, and by doing so, they have made us all less safe because they have stolen the golden minutes from us. It's the window of time when most sensible people spot danger, and have the time to retreat or find cover.

[hlthe2b]

1. 31 states are open carry... I will NEVER get used to it and no matter how pissed police are for me doing it...

I will ALWAYS report ANYONE I see carrying an assault weapon. Hunters carrying rifles while dressed in expected gear, no. But, I am beyond angry that we allow society to be abusively intimidated by morons with their penis extenders over their shoulders on the streets, in grocery stores (where massacres have all too frequently occurred), and elsewhere the public gathers. And for any of the few fans of AR15s and similar here, I don't apologize for my opinion.

[Emile]

3. With all the mass shootings, it's unnerving to see some idiot parading

around with any kind of gun.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

2. 1. People are. 2. Def failure of security. 3. I think there are trees near building.

1. People are. Probably should be more.

1b. There are official inquiries of various kinds at various levels forming now.

2. Definite failure of security. Secret Service is 100% responsible if not to blame, which means they share blame. If either one had done their job with regard to the building, the attempt would not have happened and a very good chance that Crooks would have become a person of high interest to the Secret Service.

2b. There is a rumour that A) local police alerted the SS about Crooks on the roof minutes before. B) Snipers had Crooks sighted about two minutes before. C) Snipers first level protocol might be there has to be some action like a shot fired before they can take out a person. D) Might also be that snipers can fire overriding C if they first get permission and they had requested it in that two minutes.

This is why we need 1b. If protocols were a problem that needs to be solved. If the SS did not adequately supervise or take control of the building security, that needs to be solved.

3. I think there are trees near building. He may have walked under cover unobserved.

4. It occurs to me, on reading your last paragraph, that if sane people avoid open-carry types, the 2A extremists will feel a bit more lonely. Perhaps this should be encouraged. Of course they would have each other and you might see gaggles of them shopping together, for example. Do people open carry high speed rifles to spectator sports where it is legal? No, because arenas are private venues and forbid it. So if they can sit in large crowds without their security blanket lethal weapon, they can surely go shopping without it.

[gab13by13]

5. 2b. If they had Crooks in their sights minutes before

how long does it take to make a radio call to get TSF off the stage?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. Another point of failure. And an easy one to do. . . . nt

[Walleye]

4. Apart from being dangerous to our lives, displaying a weapon in polite company is just plain rude

What you are saying when you carry a gun is that you do not trust your fellow Americans to behave in a civilized manner toward you.