Breaking: Obama tells allies Biden needs to seriously consider his viability

[WarGamer]

WaPo... posted a few minutes ago.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/18/obama-says-biden-must-consider-viability/

[Fiendish Thingy]

1. Drip...drip...drip...nt

[wnylib]

2. Is there a link to this article that everyone can read?

[budkin]

11. Here

Obama tells allies Biden needs to seriously consider his viability

https://archive.ph/Dxue1

[eppur_se_muova]

3. Obama has made his share of mistakes. This is one of them. nt

[democrattotheend]

29. In hindsight, it was probably a mistake for him to encourage Biden not to run in 2016

I completely understand why he did so - he knew Hillary was going to run and he thought the party would have a better chance if we avoided a contentious primary between Hillary and Biden. Nobody at that point saw Bernie Sanders mounting a credible threat. But in hindsight we might have been better off if Biden had run then, because he would have probably (maybe?) been a stronger nominee against Trump, and since we now know (based on the 2020 primary results) that a substantial portion of Bernie's vote in 2016 was mostly an opposition to Hillary, Biden would have gotten those votes and he would have probably bowed out more gracefully than Bernie did because he is a party man, and it's less likely there would have been so many nonsense conspiracy theories about Hillary stealing the nomination.

OTOH, I am glad Bernie did as well as he did in 2016 because he really pushed the party platform in the right direction, and he definitely pushed Biden to be more progressive and deliver on it.

[polichick]

4. So is Michelle volunteering for the veep position?

[Autumn]

5. Does everyone still think the wealthy donors wanting their tax breaks and the Dems

giving them what they want is why the are pushing him to step down? Because it's fucking not.

[newdeal2]

6. The article doesn't match your headline

He is staying neutral for now. Protective of Biden and concerned about his path forward - that’s all I got.

[BootinUp]

12. Exactly. It changes NOTHING.

Only weak kneed or weak minded should be concerned.

[Autumn]

16. Did you miss this?

Former president Barack Obama has told allies in recent days that President Biden’s path to victory has greatly diminished and he thinks the president needs to seriously consider the viability of his candidacy, according to multiple people briefed on his thinking.

From the linked article.

[OnDoutside]

25. Let him come out and say it publicly then, if he's so concerned. This is an appalling way to treat his friend.

[Autumn]

28. That's not how Obama will do it. This is how politicians do these things.

You expect him to go on TV and tell Biden to step down?

[OnDoutside]

35. If he has the decency I thought he had, I expect him not to use 3rd parties to do the dirty work. TV or go

to Joe, but not this snaky sh!t.

[Autumn]

38. If our Democratic leaders are concerned we should all be concerned.

[LexVegas]

7. I respect Obama's opinion on this matter. nt

[BootinUp]

15. His opinion is it's still Biden's decision.

[Demsrule86]

17. He has given no opinion...someone said that conveyed this... when someone goes on the record, I may have more interest.

I posted as much as I can without violating the rules.

[BootinUp]

8. I think you should use an exact quote.

[WarGamer]

13. it's the WaPo headline

[BootinUp]

19. More of the same pressure, nothing new

Except some leaker wanting to keep the pressure on.

[Cattledog]

9. Excerpt

Behind the scenes, Obama has been deeply engaged in conversations about the future of Biden’s campaign, taking calls from many anxious Democrats, including former House speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), and has shared his views about the president’s challenges, according to people with knowledge of the calls, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/18/obama-says-biden-must-consider-viability/

[Demsrule86]

10. Did you read this...not from Obama...just being told Obama has done this. More bullshit and hearsay. Trash.

Former president Barack Obama has told allies in recent days that President Biden’s path to victory has greatly diminished and he thinks the president needs to seriously consider the viability of his candidacy, according to multiple people briefed on his thinking.

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Obama has only spoken with Biden once since the debate, and he has been clear in his conversations with others that the future of Biden’s candidacy is a decision for the president to make. He has emphasized that his concern is protecting Biden and his legacy, and has pushed back against the idea that he alone can influence Biden’s decision-making process.

Biden is the only one who can win.

[Johnny2X2X]

18. This

I really think this was all hashed out a couple weeks ago and the media is just reported most of this like it's ongoing.

[newdeal2]

24. Yup

It seems like a lot of these stories were written last week but put on hold after what happened this weekend. Now that the anti-Biden push is still moving forward, they’re being published as if they’re happening in real time. I think it’s all coordinated to demoralize folks and get them feeling like this is inevitable.

[budkin]

14. Obama is on board?

It's Joever.

[JustAnotherGen]

20. I commented on WaPo

If this is true - Obama can certainly put that out directly on Social Media. Hey - it's Obama's legacy at stake here.

[Cattledog]

23. That's like breaking up with someone via text message.

If true, Obama will call Biden directly and not post on social media.

[JustAnotherGen]

33. Or -

Verbally state it - and not through media 'sources'.

If all of these top dogs feel this strong - get together and issue a joint statement directly to the Democratic Party Members.

[wryter2000]

21. If Obama has doubts

He damned well needs to tell them to Joe, not the press.

[Bitbit]

22. A Spokesperson for Obama declined to comment

….according to people with knowledge of the calls, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

So this is the source of the WAPO article.
Like so many others. Speaking or leaking anonymously. IMO, not good enough to go nuts over. Not yet.

[Mossfern]

39. Rec'd + 1,000,000

The media is publishing articles on innuendo and "anonymous sources."
This is irresponsible journalism and leads me to assume that someone has an agenda.

[Traurigkeit]

26. Everything WaPo publishes is washed through Murdoch

[AZSkiffyGeek]

44. Murdoch doesn't have anything to do with WaPo

Just because someone USED to work for a Murdoch paper doesn't mean Murdoch has any control over what they do NOW.

[Chakaconcarne]

27. I guess it's time to jump all over Obama's shit now... you know all those donations he's getting to sway his decision.

[flamingdem]

32. Not him. It's the false way it's being reported

There's no proof that he's in an ongoing push to get him out.

[GainesT1958]

34. Exactly...

I am convinced he wouldn't have made that fund-raising video for Joe had he wanted Joe to step aside...

[flamingdem]

30. There is NO PROOF of what is being said and WHEN

There was only one phone call between the two.

We are being ratfucked.

Obama rightly reacted to the bad debate performance.

Biden is up in the electability poll.

The other polls are paid for by billionaires who want tax cuts.
(See who is behind the Emerson College poll)

[Bleacher Creature]

31. The number of people here blindly shouting "fake news" is sad. NT

[peggysue2]

36. Then why did Obama run an ad yesterday . . .

Asking for $5 donations from all Democratic voters claiming if we did this, each and every one, Joe and Kamala would have enough resources for November?

Contradictory much??

RESIST THE NOISE!

Because right now we do not know what's going on behind the scenes.

Heads down. Keep working.

[hamsterjill]

37. Check out my previous post. Seriously.

So the QAnon’s were right?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219142528

Yes, they are freaking crazies. Yes, they are stupid idiots. But they were talking about Biden leaving the race long before we were.

It’s sickening that it has come to this.

[bigtree]

40. Washington Post rehashed old news about the meeting they reported days ago

and used words that aren't quotes, but their own shitstirring interpretation of what Barack Obama thinks.

There is zero quoted here from anyone on the record which supports this header.

The key passage:

"Obama has spoken with Biden only once since the debate, and he has been clear in his conversations with others that the future of Biden’s candidacy is a decision for the president to make."

...word games from WaPo.

[Ace Rothstein]

41. People should have been having these conversations with Biden 12-18 months ago.

Or backed a viable candidate for the primary.

[LiberaBlueDem]

42. Biden can't be beat

He's gonna get reelected, live to 103, and be a hero.

The big money boys do not like him, never did never will. They want wars, tax breaks and women and blacks to go back where they were for 200 years.

They own the media and many politicians and Biden is a threat to their power, whereas rump is their man. They thought rump would win, they now see he is a loser, so here they come after our Hero

[Kingofalldems]

43. Bad things about Democrats.