Suppose in reality Joe was ahead right now 60% to 40%

[pwb]

Would our wealth class owned media report that?

Or would they report fake divides?

Think political ad $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Joe will win that big IMO.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. We wouldn't be having this conversation.

It would be treated like previous elections in the modern era (64, 72, 84, and 96) where the winner wasn't really in doubt.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

2. Yep

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. I should have added 2008.

The race was over when the markets crashed in September

[edisdead]

12. OR...

Or the reality is that the polls are closer to that already. And they are still pushing for their tax cuts and less regulation.

[Freethinker65]

3. It would be too close to call and a horse race to the finish.

Biden would still be admonished for being too old and gaffe prone. Trump would still be allowed to ceaselessly lie.

[ElementaryPenguin]

4. Bullshit polls are what keep the GOP thinking they have a winner in fraudster Trump!

Trump is a loser - and I believe Biden is likely leading by at least 10 points - and maybe as much as you've proposed here.

I believe Joe would win handily if he were to stay in...

I also believe the Dems could field a number of candidates that could beat this very beatable convicted felon!!!

I can't count like Pelosi, but I know that polling isn't anywhere near as accurate as it used to be before the advent of smart phones.

[TwilightZone]

5. Why would they stop reporting polls? They're always a conversation starter, regardless of the gap.

Biden was ahead the entire 2020 campaign, and there was just as much talk about polls as there is this time.

60/40 is, sadly, just a fantasy. The 2020 campaign was relatively drama-free, Biden won without too much trouble, and the split was 51/47.

[maxsolomon]

6. Pipe dreams, mate.

That is not the situation. The EC margins are razor thin.

Biden would win the Popular Vote, but we don't do it that way because antiquated reasons.

[pwb]

8. No it is more confidence,

I never dream but you go ahead.

[maxsolomon]

13. You don't dream? My daughter in law is like that.

Pipe dreams aren't dreams exactly.

Your confidence makes you an outlier.

[pwb]

14. Your doubt says

something too.

[maxsolomon]

15. Yeah, no shit. It says I'm full of doubt.

If it says something else, I'm not aware of it. I don't have a hidden agenda and I don't particularly care if Biden drops out or not, but that's what it looks like is happening.
 
Right now, and I've said it in other posts, I think Biden would win the Popular Vote. But that's not how this fucked-up system works.

The EC should be burned to the ground along with the Senate and the SCOTUS.

[pwb]

16. Here is how we feel.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219180095

[maxsolomon]

18. I'm one of the 2 that passed on that poll.

You feel that Biden will win by 20 points. That's what I mean by an outlier.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

9. What if Trump turned out to be an alien lizard man?

Biden isn't up in the polls. And the polls are getting worse. That's why we are having these conversations. It's not about Biden the person but the candidate. He is looking like a worse candidate every day.

[pwb]

11. You apparently buy into the mandatory narrative.

Did women get their freedoms back?

Did earth stop burning and flooding from fossil fuels? The young have many years to live in this big oil shit show.

Did the pukes reverse on gun control?

Are school shooting over with?

NO.

Yeah what is not to love right?

[LiberaBlueDem]

19. Exactly

Biden is making way too much progress to allow democracy to keep him president. That's how the rich see it

[BlueCheeseAgain]

10. Of course they would.

Why wouldn't they? They reported all the polls in 2020 showing Biden ahead.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. In 1996 the Dole people cried to high heaven

The ABC Elections bureau practically called the race for Clinton in late October.