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senseandsensibility

(24,978 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:47 PM Jul 2024

"We're close the end"? Anonymous source leaks to NBC

If they mean end of democracy, they may be on to something. If they mean the end of Biden's candidacy, then the responsibility for that is on them. No more blaming Biden after that.

By the way, the media is already laying the ground for a Kamala Harris run, and it's not looking like there's going to be a "honeymoon."

So you force him out and then sit back and watch? This is absolute insanity.

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"We're close the end"? Anonymous source leaks to NBC (Original Post) senseandsensibility Jul 2024 OP
the end? LSue Jul 2024 #1
Welcome to DU, sorta! Renew Deal Jul 2024 #3
We welcome your voice senseandsensibility Jul 2024 #6
You've been reading for *25* years? Interesting... lapucelle Jul 2024 #24
Biden would have to resign the Presidency VMA131Marine Jul 2024 #2
Yes, it would be. yagotme Jul 2024 #8
The GOP has given Kamala the Hillary treatment. And there is not enough time to change that. WE will lose if Biden Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #12
I'm guessing all the MSM pushing the "Joe must go" narrative... regnaD kciN Jul 2024 #4
Absolutely senseandsensibility Jul 2024 #20
You called it MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #22
I actually think they might be right. Renew Deal Jul 2024 #5
Total Insanity Emile Jul 2024 #7
We're close to the end one way or another because after the dnc virtual roll call, unblock Jul 2024 #9
Pleaase Joe hang on so we don't lose our Republic. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #10
I call BS on this. grockri Jul 2024 #11
this is peak rumormongering bigtree Jul 2024 #13
Chyron on MSNBC. nt Susan Calvin Jul 2024 #14
so a media invention bigtree Jul 2024 #15
Of course you got it right. Susan Calvin Jul 2024 #25
If we just ignore it it will all go away and Joe will stay in the race and win. BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #16
Yes, please. I would LOVE an opportunity to ignore it!! MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #23
This is lunacy. Insanity. madibella Jul 2024 #17
Like you, I am running out of adjectives senseandsensibility Jul 2024 #18
I agree completely. When I say that my madibella Jul 2024 #30
All of these sources MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #19
Good Lord DET Jul 2024 #21
Turn it off! PortTack Jul 2024 #37
If we ever doubted that the press was complicit now we know for sure. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #26
Or maybe Zeitghost Jul 2024 #27
The only poster here with REAL inside info is Brooklynite Funtatlaguy Jul 2024 #28
Didn't he get flagged for review? orange jar Jul 2024 #29
Really? senseandsensibility Jul 2024 #31
Why? Funtatlaguy Jul 2024 #32
That is sad. He is/was a great contributor here Yorkie Mom Jul 2024 #39
Well, he says he has insider knowledge obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #34
It is a huge loss for our community Yorkie Mom Jul 2024 #40
That's what the commentator on MSNBC is saying right now. That senior people close to Biden are now saying beaglelover Jul 2024 #33
President Biden's campaign mgr said just today...HE IS NOT DROPPING OUT! Please stop repeating the PortTack Jul 2024 #36
The narrative will shift yes, the bashing of ANY dem candidate will go right on! It won't skip a beat! PortTack Jul 2024 #35
This article is like the bots on the blue bird site before I even knew what a bot was suegeo Jul 2024 #38
I also remember 1992 LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #41

LSue

(4 posts)
1. the end?
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:51 PM
Jul 2024

I am so over this situation. After 25 reading DU, I am going to have to reply and discuss, or lose my mind.

VMA131Marine

(5,270 posts)
2. Biden would have to resign the Presidency
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:52 PM
Jul 2024

Allowing Harris to become the incumbent for this to work.

A brokered convention would be a disaster.

If only some faithless democrats would support Biden the way the MAGAts support Trump. They should have circled round Biden in support after the debate, not to create a fucking firing squad.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
12. The GOP has given Kamala the Hillary treatment. And there is not enough time to change that. WE will lose if Biden
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:05 PM
Jul 2024

is not the nominee. Some Democrats may very well stay home. We had a primary and that should mean something...I still say this is about campaign donations.

regnaD kciN

(27,640 posts)
4. I'm guessing all the MSM pushing the "Joe must go" narrative...
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:53 PM
Jul 2024

…will immediately jump on the narrative highlighting the “weakness” of Harris/Unicorn/whoever, and, by October, the “conventional wisdom” that Democrats blew the election by forcing the incumbent out.

senseandsensibility

(24,978 posts)
20. Absolutely
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:28 PM
Jul 2024

One thing is for sure, the corporate media will not treat Kamala fairly. Actually, two things: they will not do any reflection on their own role in this and will double down on it.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,513 posts)
22. You called it
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:46 PM
Jul 2024

I agree completely.

I miss integrity, decency, and journalism like Walter Cronkite and Barbara Walters. Not this 21st century click bait reality show bullshit.




Renew Deal

(85,169 posts)
5. I actually think they might be right.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:53 PM
Jul 2024

I think the only reason some people went public is because the outcome was known.

unblock

(56,198 posts)
9. We're close to the end one way or another because after the dnc virtual roll call,
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:01 PM
Jul 2024

It will be pretty much impossible to change the ballots.

Joe just needs to hang on until then.

grockri

(73 posts)
11. I call BS on this.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:04 PM
Jul 2024

All speculation. The rich have taken over our party. We as voters are no longer relevent!!!

bigtree

(94,269 posts)
13. this is peak rumormongering
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:06 PM
Jul 2024

...and you're catapaulting it here without context or substance.

There's no article here, no link, no attributed quote.

This is the worst.

Susan Calvin

(2,438 posts)
25. Of course you got it right.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:54 PM
Jul 2024

But it's worth noting they've been running that chyron since I got home, well over an hour.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,513 posts)
23. Yes, please. I would LOVE an opportunity to ignore it!!
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:52 PM
Jul 2024

Instead of having "chyrons" and anonymous "leaks" constantly shoved down my throat and into my brain.



madibella

(208 posts)
17. This is lunacy. Insanity.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:18 PM
Jul 2024

Last edited Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:09 PM - Edit history (2)

I’m running out of adjectives.

Treading lightly as I’ve been reported for expressing my displeasure.

I remain with Joe now and going forward.

senseandsensibility

(24,978 posts)
18. Like you, I am running out of adjectives
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:20 PM
Jul 2024

I have enjoyed our party being the "grown-ups" compared to the R's and maybe taken it for granted. That seems to be slipping away and it's scary.

madibella

(208 posts)
30. I agree completely. When I say that my
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:08 PM
Jul 2024

feeling of security has been taken away, believe me.

What’s going on is shit that the Republican party would be doing. This is not how my party behaves. It’s absolute madness. Again I am literally at a loss for words. We are flying blind and headed toward the face of a mountain. It would seem.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,513 posts)
19. All of these sources
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:27 PM
Jul 2024

I've seen have been anonymous: "top Dems," "people close to so and so," "source who spoke on condition of anonymity," "insiders," "aides," etc., etc., etc.

I'm picturing Pinhead Roger Stone and Sewer Rat Bannon giggling like children over the chaos they're creating with Orban, etc.

So very coincidental to be happening right after Felon 45's paper cut "assassination attempt," and simultaneous with the Russian National Convention.


DET

(2,501 posts)
21. Good Lord
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:28 PM
Jul 2024

They’re talking on MSNBC as if Joe is already gone, and they’re debating who Kamala should choose as her VP. Of course, this is Katie Tur and Chuck Todd (who gets more obnoxious by the day), plus some unrecognizable person, so it could just be wishful thinking. So disrespectful of Biden, the viewers, and the electorate.

flying_wahini

(8,275 posts)
26. If we ever doubted that the press was complicit now we know for sure.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:56 PM
Jul 2024


Hoping that SOMEBODY in the press will prove there are being told to lie or blow this up.

I want them to speak up,

Funtatlaguy

(11,878 posts)
28. The only poster here with REAL inside info is Brooklynite
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:02 PM
Jul 2024

Until he says something, I won’t believe any random rumors.

orange jar

(878 posts)
29. Didn't he get flagged for review?
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:06 PM
Jul 2024

Unless that's changed, I don't think we'll be hearing from him for a while.

senseandsensibility

(24,978 posts)
31. Really?
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:13 PM
Jul 2024

Regardless, I don't see him as the be all and end all of knowledge on DU. We have many informed and rational posters here, fortunately.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
34. Well, he says he has insider knowledge
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:31 PM
Jul 2024

And he may or may not. But if so, we have no proof what is being said.

Yorkie Mom

(16,595 posts)
40. It is a huge loss for our community
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 05:26 PM
Jul 2024

if his profile has been flagged for review. I watched how he tried to walk a tight rope in what he said to prevent this.

beaglelover

(4,466 posts)
33. That's what the commentator on MSNBC is saying right now. That senior people close to Biden are now saying
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:20 PM
Jul 2024

'we know it's over, it's just a matter of when'. I think Biden will bow out this weekend. What happens after that, who knows. I hope it's Kamala Harris but I'll vote for whoever the Democratic Party nominates.

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
36. President Biden's campaign mgr said just today...HE IS NOT DROPPING OUT! Please stop repeating the
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:39 PM
Jul 2024

Anonymous source thing!

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
35. The narrative will shift yes, the bashing of ANY dem candidate will go right on! It won't skip a beat!
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:37 PM
Jul 2024

suegeo

(3,137 posts)
38. This article is like the bots on the blue bird site before I even knew what a bot was
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:46 PM
Jul 2024

The troll farms out of some Russian city flooding the field with manure.

Cambridge Analytica sending negative targeted messages to push down the African American vote. And probably other minorities as well.

Cambridge Analytica and the NRA doing good only knows what with the gun nuts.

Maybe someone in the future can give a name to what is going on with this nonsense in the "news".

Doom troll news.

"Anonymous sources say..."
"Aides close to Obama say..." name a fucking name.

It's probably some hostile foreign enemy, say like Russia, trying advance a piece of shit republican. The convicted felon who is awaiting sentencing, twice impeached, adjudicated rapist. Who lies and lies and lies.

Stories like this are bullshit. The GOP colluded with Russia and they still are.

This crap article is adjacent to propaganda. It's gaslighting.

Joe Biden is a fine president and should not step down.
It would be chaos (which is what Putin wants).
They don't have a plan for what comes next. This is no plan that Democrats wouldn't rip themselves apart over.
The GOP would sit back and watch. Even stir the shit like they always do with lawsuits, Russian messaging, use their corrupt courts. Blah blah blah.
FIGHT BACK AGAINST THIS CRAP. go joe.

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