If Harris is our nominee who do you feel would be the best vice president to win this?

[Matthew28]

If Harris is our nominee who do you feel would be the best vice president to win this? I feel that Harris should choose Gretchen Whitmer as she'd lock up Michigan and possibly pa and wis that we need to win the election. This would be a powerful ticket and would be one of the few that can beat Trump.

[BigDemVoter]

1. I hate to even speculate, as Biden is our nominee until he states otherwise.

[hume]

43. Very true.

This is not a good thing for the Democratic Party.

[krawhitham]

2. Pete Buttigieg

[returnee]

30. You beat me to it.

My first choice, however, is Biden/Harris.

[Greybnk48]

40. Pete for me too. n/t

[drray23]

3. Josh shapiro.nt.

[Rstrstx]

49. Agree

[LonePirate]

53. Agreed. Shapiro would be my choice with Buttigieg being my second choice.

[radius777]

95. +1. Shapiro is the one, from a crucial swing state.

Harris/Shapiro would be unbeatable - it's the perfect soccer mom/dad ticket. Both of them are bold and vibrant, exactly what we need.

[ArnoldLayne]

101. Josh Shapiro

[4139]

4. Sen Bob Casey.... To lock a win in Pennsylvania

[yorkster]

5. Gov. Beshear of Kentucky

If it isn't Joe and Kamala....

[Big Blue Marble]

73. I love Andy...

but he is not going to bring Kentucky with him. Shapiro more likely brings Pennsylvania.

[plost99]

78. Shapiro

Shapiro. There's no way we get Kentucky

[kentuck]

106. Andy would be good.

He has a broad appeal.

[Frasier Balzov]

7. Girls vs. the boys is where the advantage is.

I'm with you 100 percent on your pick.

Shake up and energize this race with women and women-of-color voters.

Hang onto Michigan and lose who? Nobody.

[regnaD kciN]

55. "Girls vs. the boys"...

…worked so well for us in 2016.

[Frasier Balzov]

69. A short list of responses:

Tim Kaine is a good man who is not female.

Hillary Clinton's loss can and should be avenged.

Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health has galvanized the women's vote.

How do you envision the first woman presidency happening without a breakthrough opportunity to vanquish a villainous chauvinist like Trump?

[RobinA]

86. We'll Trying To WIN

A girl is not going to win at the top of the ticket. A girl more qualified than many boy candidates just lost to a boy moron. The situation has only gotten worse since then.

[democrattotheend]

8. I read a pretty convincing argument for Mark Kelly earlier today

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-democrats-need-a-hero-they-actually-already-have-one-in-mark-kelly

I am not necessarily sold on him but the article made a good case.

[elleng]

56. Heard about him (and her) from my NJ daughter an hour ago.

Haven't read article.

[brush]

63. Good choice. Senator from a battleground state whose wife...

was also a shooting victim (to combat trump's victimhood/sympathy vote). It would also help Ruben Gallego's race against that despicable Kari Lake.

[elleng]

67. Yes, a few positive features,

notwithstanding reluctance to consider any such.

[ChazII]

72. I heard that on our local talk show in Phoenix. n/t

[cilla4progress]

83. Need an executive

Big Gretch

[democrattotheend]

88. I read that she is not interested

I know candidates always say they aren't, but this seems legit. Maybe not Michelle Obama level not interested, but it seems like she took her name out of consideration.

I also think Mark Kelly seems like a better choice. I don't think we need an executive to be vice president, and I'd rather give up a Senate seat that a Democrat would appoint a replacement to than a governorship.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

104. As an Arizonan - I don't wanna have to go through another Qari Lake race to replace him

But I do think he's a solid choice IF it comes to that.

[FarPoint]

9. It is apparent, even the current Democratic leadership does not honor our Primary vote...

So, why do we want to fool ourselves as if what we say anymore?

I'm Biden/Harris ticket...that is all.

[democrattotheend]

110. What primary vote?

Biden got a fraction of the votes he got in 2020 in a primary that included only token opposition. And I'm kind of floored by how much this argument is being made by many of the same people on here who were howling about how damaging it would be in 2020 if Bernie didn't drop out before millions of the primary voters in the country even had the chance to vote.

[PatSeg]

10. Joe Biden is our nominee

But apparently the media thinks it can pick our candidates for us, so I guess we would have no say in the choice anyway.

The fact that there are Democrats speculating about a potential replacement ticket, means the media is possibly succeeding.

So if Joe "steps down", I really don't care who is on the ticket. No one is asking us what we want.

[LakeArenal]

27. Again. Joe Biden is who I'm voting for because he is the nominee.

[PatSeg]

35. I just wish we could turn off all this noise

I won't even turn on the news or late night talk shows. I thought it was dying down, but apparently not.

[Shrek]

11. Barack Obama n/t

[madaboutharry]

14. He is disqualified.

He is term limited. He can’t be VP because he is constitutionally prohibited from serving as president.

On edit: This is wrong. See below ⬇️

[Shrek]

18. Nope

He is prevented only from being elected.

It's possible to become VP without going through an election.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/07/is-joe-biden-dropping-out-of-the-race-one-idea-fantasy-football.html

The return of Obama—still very popular and the de facto head of the Democratic Party—would generate enormous excitement among party leaders, donors, and the general population. Other Democrats, who might have run for the top slot at a brokered convention, would lay such plans aside. A Harris-Obama ticket would almost certainly defeat Trump.

This scenario would not be unconstitutional. The 22nd Amendment states, “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice,” but it doesn’t forbid a former two-term president from running for vice president. True, as veep, Obama would be in a position to return to the Oval Office for a third term, should Harris die or resign. But this wouldn’t be a problem either. The amendment reads: “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.” (Italics added.) It does not forbid subsequent succession to the office.

[madaboutharry]

22. He can run in an election as Vice President

He could be elected as Vice President:

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CONAN-2017/pdf/GPO-CONAN-2017-10-23.pdf

It’s a moot point because he wouldn’t do it, but it is always good to learn something.

[LakeArenal]

39. I hope and believe all this "concern" is moot. MOOT!

[Rstrstx]

48. From reading it it is vague and with this SCOTUS?

It hinges around the line “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice- President” which to me sounds pretty clear, though it dives into the hypothetical that if an ex-President was elected Speaker of the House they could ascend to the presidency that way if something happened to both the President and VP. But the language says nothing about any office other than that of VP.

Interesting thought experiment, I’m pretty confident this SCOTUS would never allow it, at least for a Democrat.

[kansasobama]

61. This SCOTUS will shoot it down

Why don't Michelle Obama run just this time to save the country? Obama is also not against Biden stepping down? If so, should he not have a plan? I bet none of these guys have a plan. They just want to oust Biden. Next time, polls drop, what are they doing? This is all a slippery slope and not democratic. Biden-Harris is what I voted for.

[Polybius]

92. It would be 9-0

Not just 6-3.

[madaboutharry]

12. Two women.

I am not sure this country is that grown up to back a ticket like that. I wish I could say it would be great, but you know… misogyny.

I am in the “I wish we weren’t in this place” camp, but if I were to think of someone as the VP nominee, maybe Sen. Mark Kelly from Arizona. He has a lot of positives. In addition to being a retired astronaut, a great public speaker, married to Gabby Giffords, and being from a swing state, he also loathes both Trump and J.D. Vance with the heat of a thousand suns. He wouldn’t hold back.

I think by next week we will know exactly where we are headed into November. Wherever it is, either firmly with Joe Biden or on a new path, I will be there 1,000%.

[Karma13612]

25. Could not have stated any better!

I will vote Blue no matter who.
But I would be very happy with a Harris/Kelly ticket!

[radius777]

97. Kelly would be a good choice, but IMO it'd be risky

to remove him from that seat. There is a Dem gov who (iirc) would appoint a replacement, but there would be no guarantee they could hold it. Kelly is uniquely popular in that state, in what is a red leaning swing state.

[leftstreet]

13. Hillary

And yes I'm somewhat serious.
Trump and that fake neckbeard Vance appear to be going full sexist racist homophobic.

Perfect opportunity to make it boys vs girls

[Karma13612]

28. Nope

She falls into the “been there, done that”, also old eunf to be an issue with longevity just like Biden, and we lost with her in 2016. She has enuf people who are not thrilled with her. We would be jumping from the frying pan into the fire with her on the ticket.

[leftstreet]

74. She won the popular vote

If anyone is "been there done that" it's Trump

I know it's silly speculating, since we don't really know what's going on in DC. But Trump won because he ran against Hillary, and too many D voters got complacent because they assumed she'd win. She and Kamala could probably blow him out of the water.

[Karma13612]

99. But she didn't win in the necessary places via the Electoral college.

That outdated EC arrangement needs to be deep sixed. We do not get the President that the majority of voters voted for. Inexcusable.

[manicdem]

15. A woman of color

I want Biden to stay in, but theoretically I'd hope it's a woman of color or LGBT which would be an epic first in US history and set the standard for society.

[tinrobot]

16. Beshears of Kentucky

Democratic governor of a red state.

Plus he's a really good guy.

[oldsoftie]

32. Beshears or Shapiro. Shapiro would likely bring PA

I dont know if Beshears could bring KY but it would be interesting

[standingtall]

50. I doubt Beshear could especially on the bottom of the ticket

Besides Kentucky is only 8 electoral votes and Pennsylvania is 19. So if it's between Shapiro and Beshear it looks like a pretty easy decision for me it would have to be Shapiro.

[mobeau69]

57. Yep, not enough electoral votes to shoot your wad on.

[oldsoftie]

81. Yep. And he seems to be pretty popular in PA

I'd say Whitmer could bring Michigan but there's simply not going to be a 2 woman ticket.

[standingtall]

47. I like Beshear but he gives you nothing

He is from a State he couldn't get you even if he were on top of the ticket. Winning the Governorship in Kentucky is not the same as carrying it in a Presidential election besides even if he could get it for us it's still fewer elector votes than Pennsylvania or Arizona. So it should Shapiro, Casey or Kelly.

Beshear might be a good candidate for the White House in 2028 when he will have more time to appeal to voters in critical Midwestern States, VP nominee 3 months before the election I don't think he can do much for us.

[Deep State Witch]

17. Andy Beshear

Popular Dem governor in a Republican state.

[CrispyQ]

19. First off, I'm ridin' with Biden, but to answer your question, Secretary Buttigieg or Joaquin Castro.

My husband doesn't think America is ready for a woman but I reminded him that technically HRC won in 2016. I think Harris has really grown into her role & exudes confidence she didn't have four years ago.

Is America ready for a woman & a gay man? I think so. Secretary Buttigieg is incredibly engaging & likeable. I read some older republican comments about him & they were all surprised how impressed they were with him. They probably wouldn't say that now, but he's got the chops.

Rep Castro is also very articulate & presents well. There are lots of others!! We have amazing talent in our younger gens we've just been lousy at showcasing it on a national stage. Buttigieg has a national position, Swalwell had the J6 hearing, & AOC does it on her own, but as a whole, unless you're into politics alot of our younger stars are hardly known. Just my opinion.

[VMA131Marine]

20. I think it should be a governor not another senator

So:
Gavin Newsom
Gretchen Whitmer
JB Pritzker
Ned Lamont
…

[FloridaBlues]

31. See how easy this will All go? If Biden is forced out . Everyone will want someone else.

[pinkstarburst]

45. And that is why we need to stick in with Biden

Personally I think he should have stepped aside and let the next generation of dems run for 2024, but what's done is done and we can't turn the clock back a year. He is running and we have to get behind him. And as you say, everyone has LOTS of opinions about what horse they want to back in the race for 2028. The only way this works is to let the voters decide when the time comes--which is the way it should work.

[FloridaBlues]

70. Agree we must stick together before it's too late to turn back

[democrattotheend]

89. It can't be Newsom

Because he and Kamala are from the same state. That's part of the reason Trump didn't pick Rubio.

I don't see what Lamont and Pritzker really bring to the ticket. They are from solid blue states, and with Kamala already being from a blue state that is maligned a lot on the right, I don't think we need to double down on that. I'm also not keen on Pritzker because of his corporate background.

[VMA131Marine]

91. Newsom would want his own VP pick

[democrattotheend]

96. I meant that Newsom can't be Kamala's VP pick

[manicdem]

98. I agree

Newsom seems like a take charge kind of guy. I don't think he wants to work under someone.

[JustAnotherGen]

21. No

Two women at the top of the ticket won't win. And really - it's up to her.

She and Obama both got lucky.

Obama had an older white male, seasoned, experienced, smart as hell to have his back.

That same guy selected Harris.

I would think she would turn Biden for guidance before turning to anyone else. At this point - the only person she might be able to trust is Biden.

Reality - his experience and knowledge rivals that of 20 democratic operatives combined.

[edisdead]

23. Why bother?

They are going to tell her who it will be anyway.

[BigMin28]

24. I really

Like Vice President Harris. But if our nominee isn't the President, it won't matter.

[jpug]

26. Simple

Michelle Obama.

Harris/Obama 2024 would be unstoppalble.

[oldsoftie]

33. If we go that route then Obama should simply be the nominee

She's MUCH more popular than Harris whether people want to accept that or not.
ETA I seriously doubt she has ANY interest; she did her 8 yrs & is enjoying life.

[Retrograde]

37. Aside from little things such as

-never held any elected position before
-no policy experience - especially foreign policy, where the ticket would be weak (Harris is learning on the job but she's not up to Biden's level - but then again few people are)
-would be viewed as Barack Obama attempting to have a 3rd shadow term through his wife
-and most important, has repeatedly said she's not interested

[kansasobama]

64. Well if the country is losing democracy

Should she not try to prevent it? I would say she is not responsible if she does not do this to take out Trump.

[FloridaBlues]

29. Picking a new VP will not be a piece of cake. Everyone has their own choice

Let more in fighting begin if that takes place in selecting a new VP. Unfortunately the money people and “ leaders” forcing Biden out don’t seem to have a plan B or keeping it close to the vest.
This will not turn out well unless a closing of ranks happens within a few days.

[kansasobama]

65. They don't have a Plan B

They will look stupid if Trump wins after all this Biden bashing. Biden will day-I told you so.

[FloridaBlues]

68. Have to agree.

[jimfields33]

71. There will be no fighting

Kamala Harris will pick the VP period. No one else gets a say.

[FloridaBlues]

76. You missed the point I was saying.

[jimfields33]

87. Be more clear.

[kenisgod1]

34. Beyonce

Or Taylor Swift...

[Tactical Progressive]

36. This is a great post

It, more than most others, shows how ridiculous this situation is.

I vote George Clooney, with Progressive insurance Flo for VP. She's real popular.

[Mister Ed]

38. Gretchen Whitmer, for the reasons you mentioned. n/t

[Wingus Dingus]

41. Wait, are we allowed to openly discuss this now without all-caps accusations of

pants-shitting, bedwetting and disloyalty?

[bigtree]

44. it should go in the fantasy election game forum

...or the old conspiracies group.

It doesn't belong in the faces of people working to elevate and support the people we goddamn already voted for and won in a democratic process.

This is like something I'd expect in a country that has no regard for the democratic process of elections, and works to organize something resembling a tyranny with elected officials using the weight of their offices to overturn votes cast in an election.

This isn't 'bed wetting.' It's finger pointing at anti-democratic twaddle posing as populism.

The shitting on voters like republicans, contemplating an entirely new slate of candidates; alternative candidates, if you will. Fake electors picking a nominee FOR US (there's your CAPS).

Get it right.

[oldsoftie]

80. Lololol

[berniesandersmittens]

42. Idk but not any of the ones calling for Joe to step aside nt

[beaglelover]

46. Whitmer

[budkin]

51. Beshear!

The Kentucky boy who has consistently beaten MAGA.

[Bev54]

52. I guess we will have to wait until the corporates tell us who it is.

[PortTack]

54. Excuse me..President Biden will be the nominee!

[BeyondGeography]

58. Shapiro

Can’t have CA on top of the ticket without a blue wall state on the bottom. Not in this contest. More importantly, Shapiro is an awesome campaigner.

[MontanaFarmer]

60. Girls team. Amy klobuchar or governor Whitmer.

If tradition wins out and it has to be a male, beshear, Shapiro or Wes moore.

[mobeau69]

62. Sherrod Brown?

[kansasobama]

66. Not any more

He was a Biden backstabber.

[Xavier Breath]

94. Doubt he would pull Ohio into the blue column

and we need him in the Senate. But in a perfect world, yes.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

75. Josh Shapiro. Roy Cooper. Andy Beshear. J. B. Pritzker

Gretchen Whitmer. Mark Kelly. We have an embarrassment of riches.

[choie]

77. Stop

[Kaleva]

79. Whitmer

[cilla4progress]

82. I know who.

Big Gretch.

[wishstar]

84. Gov Roy Cooper of NC is popular and experienced

He was successful Attorney General for 8 years and successful Governor finishing his 8th year now. Progressive who appeals to moderates and independents and excellent record of accomplishments in one of the most popular states.

[RobinA]

85. Harris As Nominee

can't win in any way, shape or form. Not going to happen.

[alarimer]

90. Maybe.

No idea, though.

[radius777]

93. Harris/Shapiro would be the best ticket.

He would help carry PA, which is the most important state for Dems to win. Harris can speak to the suburban swing voters on the issue of choice and the courts.

The reason why Biden didn't step aside is some in the party clearly felt that a woman (especially a black woman) could not win. This is absurd. Hillary would've won if not for Comey - she lost mainly due to losing independents at the last moment - but otherwised performed well across the board. She actually did better with Latinos than Biden did, and did about the same with white rurals as Biden did. Biden won because he did somewhat better with blacks and in the suburbs. Harris/Shapiro would easily IMO outperform both Hillary and Biden.

[GoodRaisin]

103. This.

[WarGamer]

100. I'd love to see Pete Buttigieg be on the ticket...

[GreenWave]

102. Law abiding Joe Biden, of course!

[Botany]

105. Do not even go there. No point in giving oxygen to the orchestrated "Biden is gonna drop out" meme

President Joe will be our nominee and K. Harris will be his veep. End of story.

[bullimiami]

107. It could only be Taylor Swift. Everyone else is just wrong. Sorry.

She’d be 35 by the time she was sworn in.

[skip fox]

108. A week or so ago they would erase my posts making such speculations.

But to answer: Gretchen Whitmer, an all-woman ticket!

[Lifeafter70]

109. We are now into the second phase

Of what the big money donors want. Acceptance of Joe stepping down. Next step is falling in line with their pick. Make no mistake their plan and pick does not include Harris. They want someone who is more corporate friendly and it ain't her.
We have a nominee so my pick for VP is still Harris.