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Matthew28

(1,828 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:51 PM Jul 2024

If Harris is our nominee who do you feel would be the best vice president to win this?

If Harris is our nominee who do you feel would be the best vice president to win this? I feel that Harris should choose Gretchen Whitmer as she'd lock up Michigan and possibly pa and wis that we need to win the election. This would be a powerful ticket and would be one of the few that can beat Trump.

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If Harris is our nominee who do you feel would be the best vice president to win this? (Original Post) Matthew28 Jul 2024 OP
I hate to even speculate, as Biden is our nominee until he states otherwise. BigDemVoter Jul 2024 #1
Very true. hume Jul 2024 #43
Pete Buttigieg krawhitham Jul 2024 #2
You beat me to it. returnee Jul 2024 #30
Pete for me too. n/t Greybnk48 Jul 2024 #40
Josh shapiro.nt. drray23 Jul 2024 #3
Agree Rstrstx Jul 2024 #49
Agreed. Shapiro would be my choice with Buttigieg being my second choice. LonePirate Jul 2024 #53
+1. Shapiro is the one, from a crucial swing state. radius777 Jul 2024 #95
Josh Shapiro ArnoldLayne Jul 2024 #101
Sen Bob Casey.... To lock a win in Pennsylvania 4139 Jul 2024 #4
Gov. Beshear of Kentucky yorkster Jul 2024 #5
I love Andy... Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #73
Shapiro plost99 Jul 2024 #78
Andy would be good. kentuck Jul 2024 #106
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #6
Girls vs. the boys is where the advantage is. Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #7
"Girls vs. the boys"... regnaD kciN Jul 2024 #55
A short list of responses: Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #69
We'll Trying To WIN RobinA Jul 2024 #86
I read a pretty convincing argument for Mark Kelly earlier today democrattotheend Jul 2024 #8
Heard about him (and her) from my NJ daughter an hour ago. elleng Jul 2024 #56
Good choice. Senator from a battleground state whose wife... brush Jul 2024 #63
Yes, a few positive features, elleng Jul 2024 #67
I heard that on our local talk show in Phoenix. n/t ChazII Jul 2024 #72
Need an executive cilla4progress Jul 2024 #83
I read that she is not interested democrattotheend Jul 2024 #88
As an Arizonan - I don't wanna have to go through another Qari Lake race to replace him AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2024 #104
It is apparent, even the current Democratic leadership does not honor our Primary vote... FarPoint Jul 2024 #9
What primary vote? democrattotheend Jul 2024 #110
Joe Biden is our nominee PatSeg Jul 2024 #10
Again. Joe Biden is who I'm voting for because he is the nominee. LakeArenal Jul 2024 #27
I just wish we could turn off all this noise PatSeg Jul 2024 #35
Barack Obama n/t Shrek Jul 2024 #11
He is disqualified. madaboutharry Jul 2024 #14
Nope Shrek Jul 2024 #18
He can run in an election as Vice President madaboutharry Jul 2024 #22
I hope and believe all this "concern" is moot. MOOT! LakeArenal Jul 2024 #39
From reading it it is vague and with this SCOTUS? Rstrstx Jul 2024 #48
This SCOTUS will shoot it down kansasobama Jul 2024 #61
It would be 9-0 Polybius Jul 2024 #92
Two women. madaboutharry Jul 2024 #12
Could not have stated any better! Karma13612 Jul 2024 #25
Kelly would be a good choice, but IMO it'd be risky radius777 Jul 2024 #97
Hillary leftstreet Jul 2024 #13
Nope Karma13612 Jul 2024 #28
She won the popular vote leftstreet Jul 2024 #74
But she didn't win in the necessary places via the Electoral college. Karma13612 Jul 2024 #99
A woman of color manicdem Jul 2024 #15
Beshears of Kentucky tinrobot Jul 2024 #16
Beshears or Shapiro. Shapiro would likely bring PA oldsoftie Jul 2024 #32
I doubt Beshear could especially on the bottom of the ticket standingtall Jul 2024 #50
Yep, not enough electoral votes to shoot your wad on. mobeau69 Jul 2024 #57
Yep. And he seems to be pretty popular in PA oldsoftie Jul 2024 #81
I like Beshear but he gives you nothing standingtall Jul 2024 #47
Andy Beshear Deep State Witch Jul 2024 #17
First off, I'm ridin' with Biden, but to answer your question, Secretary Buttigieg or Joaquin Castro. CrispyQ Jul 2024 #19
I think it should be a governor not another senator VMA131Marine Jul 2024 #20
See how easy this will All go? If Biden is forced out . Everyone will want someone else. FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #31
And that is why we need to stick in with Biden pinkstarburst Jul 2024 #45
Agree we must stick together before it's too late to turn back FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #70
It can't be Newsom democrattotheend Jul 2024 #89
Newsom would want his own VP pick VMA131Marine Jul 2024 #91
I meant that Newsom can't be Kamala's VP pick democrattotheend Jul 2024 #96
I agree manicdem Jul 2024 #98
No JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #21
Why bother? edisdead Jul 2024 #23
I really BigMin28 Jul 2024 #24
Simple jpug Jul 2024 #26
If we go that route then Obama should simply be the nominee oldsoftie Jul 2024 #33
Aside from little things such as Retrograde Jul 2024 #37
Well if the country is losing democracy kansasobama Jul 2024 #64
Picking a new VP will not be a piece of cake. Everyone has their own choice FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #29
They don't have a Plan B kansasobama Jul 2024 #65
Have to agree. FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #68
There will be no fighting jimfields33 Jul 2024 #71
You missed the point I was saying. FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #76
Be more clear. jimfields33 Jul 2024 #87
Beyonce kenisgod1 Jul 2024 #34
This is a great post Tactical Progressive Jul 2024 #36
Gretchen Whitmer, for the reasons you mentioned. n/t Mister Ed Jul 2024 #38
Wait, are we allowed to openly discuss this now without all-caps accusations of Wingus Dingus Jul 2024 #41
it should go in the fantasy election game forum bigtree Jul 2024 #44
Lololol oldsoftie Jul 2024 #80
Idk but not any of the ones calling for Joe to step aside nt berniesandersmittens Jul 2024 #42
Whitmer beaglelover Jul 2024 #46
Beshear! budkin Jul 2024 #51
I guess we will have to wait until the corporates tell us who it is. Bev54 Jul 2024 #52
Excuse me..President Biden will be the nominee! PortTack Jul 2024 #54
Shapiro BeyondGeography Jul 2024 #58
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #59
Girls team. Amy klobuchar or governor Whitmer. MontanaFarmer Jul 2024 #60
Sherrod Brown? mobeau69 Jul 2024 #62
Not any more kansasobama Jul 2024 #66
Doubt he would pull Ohio into the blue column Xavier Breath Jul 2024 #94
Josh Shapiro. Roy Cooper. Andy Beshear. J. B. Pritzker DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2024 #75
Stop choie Jul 2024 #77
Whitmer Kaleva Jul 2024 #79
I know who. cilla4progress Jul 2024 #82
Gov Roy Cooper of NC is popular and experienced wishstar Jul 2024 #84
Harris As Nominee RobinA Jul 2024 #85
Maybe. alarimer Jul 2024 #90
Harris/Shapiro would be the best ticket. radius777 Jul 2024 #93
This. GoodRaisin Jul 2024 #103
I'd love to see Pete Buttigieg be on the ticket... WarGamer Jul 2024 #100
Law abiding Joe Biden, of course! GreenWave Jul 2024 #102
Do not even go there. No point in giving oxygen to the orchestrated "Biden is gonna drop out" meme Botany Jul 2024 #105
It could only be Taylor Swift. Everyone else is just wrong. Sorry. bullimiami Jul 2024 #107
A week or so ago they would erase my posts making such speculations. skip fox Jul 2024 #108
We are now into the second phase Lifeafter70 Jul 2024 #109

radius777

(3,768 posts)
95. +1. Shapiro is the one, from a crucial swing state.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 12:31 AM
Jul 2024

Harris/Shapiro would be unbeatable - it's the perfect soccer mom/dad ticket. Both of them are bold and vibrant, exactly what we need.

Big Blue Marble

(5,437 posts)
73. I love Andy...
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:33 PM
Jul 2024

but he is not going to bring Kentucky with him. Shapiro more likely brings Pennsylvania.

Response to Matthew28 (Original post)

Frasier Balzov

(3,448 posts)
7. Girls vs. the boys is where the advantage is.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:03 PM
Jul 2024

I'm with you 100 percent on your pick.

Shake up and energize this race with women and women-of-color voters.

Hang onto Michigan and lose who? Nobody.

Frasier Balzov

(3,448 posts)
69. A short list of responses:
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:28 PM
Jul 2024

Tim Kaine is a good man who is not female.

Hillary Clinton's loss can and should be avenged.

Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health has galvanized the women's vote.

How do you envision the first woman presidency happening without a breakthrough opportunity to vanquish a villainous chauvinist like Trump?

RobinA

(10,109 posts)
86. We'll Trying To WIN
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:32 PM
Jul 2024

A girl is not going to win at the top of the ticket. A girl more qualified than many boy candidates just lost to a boy moron. The situation has only gotten worse since then.

brush

(57,052 posts)
63. Good choice. Senator from a battleground state whose wife...
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:14 PM
Jul 2024

was also a shooting victim (to combat trump's victimhood/sympathy vote). It would also help Ruben Gallego's race against that despicable Kari Lake.

democrattotheend

(12,008 posts)
88. I read that she is not interested
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 11:08 PM
Jul 2024

I know candidates always say they aren't, but this seems legit. Maybe not Michelle Obama level not interested, but it seems like she took her name out of consideration.

I also think Mark Kelly seems like a better choice. I don't think we need an executive to be vice president, and I'd rather give up a Senate seat that a Democrat would appoint a replacement to than a governorship.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,506 posts)
104. As an Arizonan - I don't wanna have to go through another Qari Lake race to replace him
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 03:36 PM
Jul 2024

But I do think he's a solid choice IF it comes to that.

FarPoint

(13,520 posts)
9. It is apparent, even the current Democratic leadership does not honor our Primary vote...
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:06 PM
Jul 2024

So, why do we want to fool ourselves as if what we say anymore?

I'm Biden/Harris ticket...that is all.

democrattotheend

(12,008 posts)
110. What primary vote?
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 04:26 PM
Jul 2024

Biden got a fraction of the votes he got in 2020 in a primary that included only token opposition. And I'm kind of floored by how much this argument is being made by many of the same people on here who were howling about how damaging it would be in 2020 if Bernie didn't drop out before millions of the primary voters in the country even had the chance to vote.

PatSeg

(49,589 posts)
10. Joe Biden is our nominee
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:08 PM
Jul 2024

But apparently the media thinks it can pick our candidates for us, so I guess we would have no say in the choice anyway.

The fact that there are Democrats speculating about a potential replacement ticket, means the media is possibly succeeding.

So if Joe "steps down", I really don't care who is on the ticket. No one is asking us what we want.

PatSeg

(49,589 posts)
35. I just wish we could turn off all this noise
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:08 PM
Jul 2024

I won't even turn on the news or late night talk shows. I thought it was dying down, but apparently not.

madaboutharry

(41,201 posts)
14. He is disqualified.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:09 PM
Jul 2024

He is term limited. He can’t be VP because he is constitutionally prohibited from serving as president.

On edit: This is wrong. See below ⬇️

Shrek

(4,073 posts)
18. Nope
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:11 PM
Jul 2024

He is prevented only from being elected.

It's possible to become VP without going through an election.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/07/is-joe-biden-dropping-out-of-the-race-one-idea-fantasy-football.html

The return of Obama—still very popular and the de facto head of the Democratic Party—would generate enormous excitement among party leaders, donors, and the general population. Other Democrats, who might have run for the top slot at a brokered convention, would lay such plans aside. A Harris-Obama ticket would almost certainly defeat Trump.

This scenario would not be unconstitutional. The 22nd Amendment states, “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice,” but it doesn’t forbid a former two-term president from running for vice president. True, as veep, Obama would be in a position to return to the Oval Office for a third term, should Harris die or resign. But this wouldn’t be a problem either. The amendment reads: “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.” (Italics added.) It does not forbid subsequent succession to the office.

madaboutharry

(41,201 posts)
22. He can run in an election as Vice President
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:25 PM
Jul 2024

He could be elected as Vice President:

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CONAN-2017/pdf/GPO-CONAN-2017-10-23.pdf

It’s a moot point because he wouldn’t do it, but it is always good to learn something.

Rstrstx

(1,546 posts)
48. From reading it it is vague and with this SCOTUS?
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:00 PM
Jul 2024

It hinges around the line “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice- President” which to me sounds pretty clear, though it dives into the hypothetical that if an ex-President was elected Speaker of the House they could ascend to the presidency that way if something happened to both the President and VP. But the language says nothing about any office other than that of VP.

Interesting thought experiment, I’m pretty confident this SCOTUS would never allow it, at least for a Democrat.

kansasobama

(1,397 posts)
61. This SCOTUS will shoot it down
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:13 PM
Jul 2024

Why don't Michelle Obama run just this time to save the country? Obama is also not against Biden stepping down? If so, should he not have a plan? I bet none of these guys have a plan. They just want to oust Biden. Next time, polls drop, what are they doing? This is all a slippery slope and not democratic. Biden-Harris is what I voted for.

madaboutharry

(41,201 posts)
12. Two women.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:08 PM
Jul 2024

I am not sure this country is that grown up to back a ticket like that. I wish I could say it would be great, but you know… misogyny.

I am in the “I wish we weren’t in this place” camp, but if I were to think of someone as the VP nominee, maybe Sen. Mark Kelly from Arizona. He has a lot of positives. In addition to being a retired astronaut, a great public speaker, married to Gabby Giffords, and being from a swing state, he also loathes both Trump and J.D. Vance with the heat of a thousand suns. He wouldn’t hold back.

I think by next week we will know exactly where we are headed into November. Wherever it is, either firmly with Joe Biden or on a new path, I will be there 1,000%.

Karma13612

(4,667 posts)
25. Could not have stated any better!
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:32 PM
Jul 2024

I will vote Blue no matter who.
But I would be very happy with a Harris/Kelly ticket!

radius777

(3,768 posts)
97. Kelly would be a good choice, but IMO it'd be risky
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 12:49 AM
Jul 2024

to remove him from that seat. There is a Dem gov who (iirc) would appoint a replacement, but there would be no guarantee they could hold it. Kelly is uniquely popular in that state, in what is a red leaning swing state.

leftstreet

(36,221 posts)
13. Hillary
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:08 PM
Jul 2024

And yes I'm somewhat serious.
Trump and that fake neckbeard Vance appear to be going full sexist racist homophobic.

Perfect opportunity to make it boys vs girls





Karma13612

(4,667 posts)
28. Nope
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:36 PM
Jul 2024

She falls into the “been there, done that”, also old eunf to be an issue with longevity just like Biden, and we lost with her in 2016. She has enuf people who are not thrilled with her. We would be jumping from the frying pan into the fire with her on the ticket.

leftstreet

(36,221 posts)
74. She won the popular vote
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:35 PM
Jul 2024

If anyone is "been there done that" it's Trump

I know it's silly speculating, since we don't really know what's going on in DC. But Trump won because he ran against Hillary, and too many D voters got complacent because they assumed she'd win. She and Kamala could probably blow him out of the water.

Karma13612

(4,667 posts)
99. But she didn't win in the necessary places via the Electoral college.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 02:53 PM
Jul 2024

That outdated EC arrangement needs to be deep sixed. We do not get the President that the majority of voters voted for. Inexcusable.

manicdem

(497 posts)
15. A woman of color
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:09 PM
Jul 2024

I want Biden to stay in, but theoretically I'd hope it's a woman of color or LGBT which would be an epic first in US history and set the standard for society.

oldsoftie

(13,497 posts)
32. Beshears or Shapiro. Shapiro would likely bring PA
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:43 PM
Jul 2024

I dont know if Beshears could bring KY but it would be interesting

standingtall

(2,904 posts)
50. I doubt Beshear could especially on the bottom of the ticket
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:02 PM
Jul 2024

Besides Kentucky is only 8 electoral votes and Pennsylvania is 19. So if it's between Shapiro and Beshear it looks like a pretty easy decision for me it would have to be Shapiro.

oldsoftie

(13,497 posts)
81. Yep. And he seems to be pretty popular in PA
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:46 PM
Jul 2024

I'd say Whitmer could bring Michigan but there's simply not going to be a 2 woman ticket.

standingtall

(2,904 posts)
47. I like Beshear but he gives you nothing
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 05:59 PM
Jul 2024

He is from a State he couldn't get you even if he were on top of the ticket. Winning the Governorship in Kentucky is not the same as carrying it in a Presidential election besides even if he could get it for us it's still fewer elector votes than Pennsylvania or Arizona. So it should Shapiro, Casey or Kelly.

Beshear might be a good candidate for the White House in 2028 when he will have more time to appeal to voters in critical Midwestern States, VP nominee 3 months before the election I don't think he can do much for us.

CrispyQ

(37,980 posts)
19. First off, I'm ridin' with Biden, but to answer your question, Secretary Buttigieg or Joaquin Castro.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:13 PM
Jul 2024

My husband doesn't think America is ready for a woman but I reminded him that technically HRC won in 2016. I think Harris has really grown into her role & exudes confidence she didn't have four years ago.

Is America ready for a woman & a gay man? I think so. Secretary Buttigieg is incredibly engaging & likeable. I read some older republican comments about him & they were all surprised how impressed they were with him. They probably wouldn't say that now, but he's got the chops.

Rep Castro is also very articulate & presents well. There are lots of others!! We have amazing talent in our younger gens we've just been lousy at showcasing it on a national stage. Buttigieg has a national position, Swalwell had the J6 hearing, & AOC does it on her own, but as a whole, unless you're into politics alot of our younger stars are hardly known. Just my opinion.

VMA131Marine

(4,558 posts)
20. I think it should be a governor not another senator
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:19 PM
Jul 2024

So:
Gavin Newsom
Gretchen Whitmer
JB Pritzker
Ned Lamont

pinkstarburst

(1,536 posts)
45. And that is why we need to stick in with Biden
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 05:43 PM
Jul 2024

Personally I think he should have stepped aside and let the next generation of dems run for 2024, but what's done is done and we can't turn the clock back a year. He is running and we have to get behind him. And as you say, everyone has LOTS of opinions about what horse they want to back in the race for 2028. The only way this works is to let the voters decide when the time comes--which is the way it should work.

democrattotheend

(12,008 posts)
89. It can't be Newsom
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 11:12 PM
Jul 2024

Because he and Kamala are from the same state. That's part of the reason Trump didn't pick Rubio.

I don't see what Lamont and Pritzker really bring to the ticket. They are from solid blue states, and with Kamala already being from a blue state that is maligned a lot on the right, I don't think we need to double down on that. I'm also not keen on Pritzker because of his corporate background.

JustAnotherGen

(33,273 posts)
21. No
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:23 PM
Jul 2024

Two women at the top of the ticket won't win. And really - it's up to her.

She and Obama both got lucky.

Obama had an older white male, seasoned, experienced, smart as hell to have his back.

That same guy selected Harris.

I would think she would turn Biden for guidance before turning to anyone else. At this point - the only person she might be able to trust is Biden.

Reality - his experience and knowledge rivals that of 20 democratic operatives combined.

oldsoftie

(13,497 posts)
33. If we go that route then Obama should simply be the nominee
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:45 PM
Jul 2024

She's MUCH more popular than Harris whether people want to accept that or not.
ETA I seriously doubt she has ANY interest; she did her 8 yrs & is enjoying life.

Retrograde

(10,579 posts)
37. Aside from little things such as
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:19 PM
Jul 2024

-never held any elected position before
-no policy experience - especially foreign policy, where the ticket would be weak (Harris is learning on the job but she's not up to Biden's level - but then again few people are)
-would be viewed as Barack Obama attempting to have a 3rd shadow term through his wife
-and most important, has repeatedly said she's not interested

kansasobama

(1,397 posts)
64. Well if the country is losing democracy
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:18 PM
Jul 2024

Should she not try to prevent it? I would say she is not responsible if she does not do this to take out Trump.

FloridaBlues

(4,334 posts)
29. Picking a new VP will not be a piece of cake. Everyone has their own choice
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:39 PM
Jul 2024

Let more in fighting begin if that takes place in selecting a new VP. Unfortunately the money people and “ leaders” forcing Biden out don’t seem to have a plan B or keeping it close to the vest.
This will not turn out well unless a closing of ranks happens within a few days.

kansasobama

(1,397 posts)
65. They don't have a Plan B
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:19 PM
Jul 2024

They will look stupid if Trump wins after all this Biden bashing. Biden will day-I told you so.

Tactical Progressive

(2,867 posts)
36. This is a great post
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:18 PM
Jul 2024

It, more than most others, shows how ridiculous this situation is.

I vote George Clooney, with Progressive insurance Flo for VP. She's real popular.

Wingus Dingus

(8,292 posts)
41. Wait, are we allowed to openly discuss this now without all-caps accusations of
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:41 PM
Jul 2024

pants-shitting, bedwetting and disloyalty?

bigtree

(89,635 posts)
44. it should go in the fantasy election game forum
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:53 PM
Jul 2024

...or the old conspiracies group.

It doesn't belong in the faces of people working to elevate and support the people we goddamn already voted for and won in a democratic process.

This is like something I'd expect in a country that has no regard for the democratic process of elections, and works to organize something resembling a tyranny with elected officials using the weight of their offices to overturn votes cast in an election.

This isn't 'bed wetting.' It's finger pointing at anti-democratic twaddle posing as populism.

The shitting on voters like republicans, contemplating an entirely new slate of candidates; alternative candidates, if you will. Fake electors picking a nominee FOR US (there's your CAPS).

Get it right.

BeyondGeography

(39,963 posts)
58. Shapiro
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:10 PM
Jul 2024

Can’t have CA on top of the ticket without a blue wall state on the bottom. Not in this contest. More importantly, Shapiro is an awesome campaigner.

Response to Matthew28 (Original post)

MontanaFarmer

(722 posts)
60. Girls team. Amy klobuchar or governor Whitmer.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:11 PM
Jul 2024

If tradition wins out and it has to be a male, beshear, Shapiro or Wes moore.

Xavier Breath

(4,852 posts)
94. Doubt he would pull Ohio into the blue column
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 12:30 AM
Jul 2024

and we need him in the Senate. But in a perfect world, yes.

DemocratSinceBirth

(100,027 posts)
75. Josh Shapiro. Roy Cooper. Andy Beshear. J. B. Pritzker
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 06:37 PM
Jul 2024

Gretchen Whitmer. Mark Kelly. We have an embarrassment of riches.

wishstar

(5,479 posts)
84. Gov Roy Cooper of NC is popular and experienced
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 07:16 PM
Jul 2024

He was successful Attorney General for 8 years and successful Governor finishing his 8th year now. Progressive who appeals to moderates and independents and excellent record of accomplishments in one of the most popular states.

radius777

(3,768 posts)
93. Harris/Shapiro would be the best ticket.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 12:24 AM
Jul 2024

He would help carry PA, which is the most important state for Dems to win. Harris can speak to the suburban swing voters on the issue of choice and the courts.

The reason why Biden didn't step aside is some in the party clearly felt that a woman (especially a black woman) could not win. This is absurd. Hillary would've won if not for Comey - she lost mainly due to losing independents at the last moment - but otherwised performed well across the board. She actually did better with Latinos than Biden did, and did about the same with white rurals as Biden did. Biden won because he did somewhat better with blacks and in the suburbs. Harris/Shapiro would easily IMO outperform both Hillary and Biden.

Botany

(72,252 posts)
105. Do not even go there. No point in giving oxygen to the orchestrated "Biden is gonna drop out" meme
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 03:37 PM
Jul 2024

President Joe will be our nominee and K. Harris will be his veep. End of story.

bullimiami

(13,954 posts)
107. It could only be Taylor Swift. Everyone else is just wrong. Sorry.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 03:40 PM
Jul 2024

She’d be 35 by the time she was sworn in.

skip fox

(19,485 posts)
108. A week or so ago they would erase my posts making such speculations.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 03:41 PM
Jul 2024

But to answer: Gretchen Whitmer, an all-woman ticket!

Lifeafter70

(346 posts)
109. We are now into the second phase
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 04:11 PM
Jul 2024

Of what the big money donors want. Acceptance of Joe stepping down. Next step is falling in line with their pick. Make no mistake their plan and pick does not include Harris. They want someone who is more corporate friendly and it ain't her.
We have a nominee so my pick for VP is still Harris.

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