Who could run in this election and Absolutely CRUSH Donald trump ?

[Beachnutt]

Who ?
Who would be a Landslide blue wave causing Super candidate ?

Not calling for President Biden to step down I've just been racking my brain to think who could pulverize the rethugs in an election.

OBAMA/SWIFT Ticket perhaps.
(Michelle)

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1. Harris, Whitmer an Newsom. All could beat his ass head-to-head...

if that was the scenario and one of them was our nominee.

[Self Esteem]

3. In the latest national poll, Newsom trails Trump by 11.

I'm skeptical he would 'crush' Trump. I think he'd close that gap but I doubt he'd crush him.

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9. That poll is of the situation now. Head-to-head with whole cmapaign and debates...

no contest. Newsom is very eloquent, of prme age for the office and intelligent. Trump is an old, lying buffoon in mental decline.

[Self Esteem]

11. He's not crushing Trump in four months.

And Newsom's schtick isn't a guarantee to win over voters in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

But I'm not going to play 'what ifs...'. There is zero evidence Newsom would crush Trump. Just wishful thinking at this point.

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18. In four months wasn't the question, nor was my answer.

In a whole campaign, Newsom, Whitmer or Harries, with debates, appearances in all the states, interviews with pundits...an entire campaign, they would all kick the old, lying, felon, and sexual abuser in mental decline's ass.

trump is a mess in person...talking about showerheads that don't flow, sharks, electric boats that don't float, and he'd take the battery and being shocked instead of going with the shark and getting eaten.

Come, the MFer is getting worse by the day...and he would suddenly be the one who is too old.

[Self Esteem]

20. And yet he still is beating Newsom by 11...

And I think he was beating Newsom by 20 in Nevada.

I don't think people understand how polarizing Newsom is as a candidate. But again: you still haven't shown evidence that Newsom will clobber Trump in a landslide. There's zero evidence of that at this point. Just wishful thinking.

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29. Did you not get I was talking about a whole campaign, not these truncated last four nonths?

[Self Esteem]

30. I get what you're saying. I am saying you have no evidence for what you're saying.

Just going off what you want doesn't mean jack. There's zero evidence that Newsom would "absolutely crush" Trump.

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33. Seriously? Did you see the Newson/DeSantis debate?

He destroyed him. My guess is you did not see that debate or you couldn't possibly tnink the in mental decline trump is in any shape to take on Newsom.

[Self Esteem]

34. That is not evidence.

Hillary destroyed Trump in all three debates in 2016. She certainly didn't crush him.

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39. Ok, you win. the great debater trump would destroy Newson, Whitmer and Harris.

You happy now?

Btw, you can find the Newsom /Desantis debate online because it's pretty obvious you've never seen much of Gov. Newsom at work.

[Self Esteem]

41. lol

All I said was that Newsom would not "crush" Trump. In the last two elections, Trump has never been crushed. It's pretty clear, based on polling right now, and previous results, that Trump has a floor that will allow for him to fall anywhere between 45-47% of the vote - and none of that equals getting crushed in the election.

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42. It's encouraging you have so much faith in our great and possible Dem candidates....

against the rapidly decline trump who is nowhere near what he was in 2016 or 2020, and he wasn't great then (see James Comey, btw).

But carry on.

[Self Esteem]

43. I have faith in reality.

And reality tells me that 2024 is going to be a close election.

[jpug]

28. Newsome ....

would destroy Dumpf.

[Polybius]

52. He's far too liberal to win in a landslide

I think he can win, but the bill he signed a few days ago will hurt him nationally.

[diva77]

53. Ironically, he has also passed some authoritarian legislation that takes away local control of

land use, zoning & environmental regs, and densification of urban areas -- which has a lot of cities in CA very unhappy.

[Polybius]

55. I think the toy store legislation will hurt him the most

Gender neutral isles, so no more girls and boys isles, if the store has more than 60 employees.

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56. We're talking against this mentally declining trump, right?

This trump, that we're seeing right now.

What's considered a landslide...60% to 40%? Well, maybe not that much, but he'd beat trump decisively by running on traditional Dem issues, building the economy from the bottom up and middle out, not that trickle down bs, jobs from rebbuilding the infratructure and womens' rights, and btw, he's not bad to look at, I'd guess that would appeal to some women.

[Polybius]

58. Yes, even against Trump

I love most of his politics, but sadly they just don't sell across the country. I'd vote for him any day if the week, but even I have problems with the toy store gender-neutral bill that he signed. It would not pass here in NY.

[jmowreader]

63. Newsom's also the governor of the "people's republic of Commiefornia"

I think Trump's followers would savage a California governor so badly he'd be lucky to get fifty electoral votes.

And yes, I do understand that the president they used to adore the most before Jabba the Hutt decided to run for office was a California governor.

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65. He may not get maga votes, but what Dem would?

And they sure wouldn't be his, or Whitmer's or Harris' target voters. So if you've watching the rethug convention, turn it off for a while.

And we do outnumber them in case you've forgotten.

He'd campaign on traditional Dem issues, ground-up and middle-out economic growth, no trickle down bs. jobs from nationwide infrastructure projects, medical prescription reduction costs and the HUGE womens' rights issue that rethugs have taken away...the same things that won for Joe Biden in 2020.

And just a reminder, we outnumber them. PLus he's not bad to look at, a plus for some women.

Doesn't sound like you're too familiar with hm as a candidate. Google his debate with that anti-woke, Florida Gov. Desantis from last year. He destroyed him.

[Bookreadingliberal53]

7. Trump would have Kim Guillfoyle accuse Newsom of DV

The media would run with it and game over.

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12. What is DV? And do you know she was fired for showing dick pics to co-workers?

I don't think they would push her forward.

[Bookreadingliberal53]

16. Domestic violence nt

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19. And you have proof of that? You think he would be governor now if there was proof of that?

And you didn't address the dick pics incident...which did happen and is why she was fired.

[Bookreadingliberal53]

23. She would falsely accuse him of it

Media would her a free pass on the dick pics.

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32. Ya really think Jr. would put his fiance out there with the dick pic real evidence out there...

exposing her, and then having her make trumped up, unproven accusations against Newsom?

Nah.

[edisdead]

10. Uh no.

Two are from califor ia. And I highly doubt that they will do well in “flyover country”. And Whitmer I have my doubts in a national election.

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22. You know we're talking about a whole campaign, at least I was..

not this situation we are in now where they'd have to take over suddenly for the last four months.

In a whole campaign, Newsom, Whitmer or Harries, with debates, appearances in all the states, interviews with pundits...an entire campaign, they would all kick the old, lying, felon, and sexual abuser in mental decline's ass.

trump is a mess in person...talking about shower heads that don't flow, sharks, electric boats that don't float, and he'd take the battery and being shocked instead of going with the shark and getting eaten.

Come on, the MFer is getting worse by the day...and he would suddenly be the one who is too old.

[drray23]

2. Nobody can crush the election.

Out politics are so polarized and fuelled by both a vapid media and unlimited dark money that I doubt we will ever see landslides anymore.
A large segment of the electorate does not vote on policies, rather it's based on what members of their "political tribe" tells them to do or what kind of propaganda they are exposed to.
Of course many on our side can win but it won't be crushing.

[Xavier Breath]

35. This. The days of the landslide are over. n/t

[travelingthrulife]

4. Biden

n/t

[Frank D. Lincoln]

5. If Biden quit the race

then I'd like to see this ticket:

Kamala Harris (President)
Gavin Newsom (Vice President)

This ticket would spectacularly take down Trump, J.D. Vance, and Project 2025.

[asm128]

6. Both from California

Would lose all the Electoral College votes from California. Can't be done.

[edisdead]

13. Why would we lose the votes from CA?

[unc70]

17. Constitutional prohibition

[asm128]

26. 12th Amendment

I believe that's the amendment that would cause the loss of votes, but please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

60. Oh well, so much for a Harris-Newsom ticket.

But some think that was a bad idea anyway.

[Polybius]

54. Kamala can easily just buy a house in any other state and claim it as her residency

She's got the money. Cheney did that in 2000.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

15. Polling.

I also think a Harris-Newsom ticket would turn the polls in their favor once they went into full swing with their campaigning and messaging. Trump, with his despicable character and track record, and Project 2025/Agenda47, with their sinister intentions, would be easy for Harris-Newsom to mine for democratic political gold.

[DFW]

8. Well, right off the bat, Joe Biden comes to mind

Without the incessand media pounding on him, all the while ignoring (twice wasn’ t enough?) the inadequacies of the Republican ticket, I think Joe would be comfortably leading in most, if not all swing states as well as nationally.

[ecstatic]

14. Wes Moore, but skipping Kamala is not an option. nt

[Deek1935]

25. We all love Kamala. But I believe she will lose. For the reasons we all know, fair or unfair.

[Deek1935]

24. Spot on! This is the HUGEST self-inflicted political wound in the history of the country.

[NameAlreadyTaken]

27. Senator Mark Kelly (D-AZ)

[still-prayin4rain]

61. Agree. Best swing state candidate. nt

[flvegan]

31. Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson

Stupidest timeline ever, this, so why not.

Campaign on giving The People's Elbow to Russia, and every time he asks if you can smell what he's got cookin', the idiot masses can yell back , "2024!!!" It's brilliant.

Sigh.

[kansasobama]

45. The Rock is a Trumper

You kidding?

[flvegan]

49. He is?

I recall he was abstaining from providing his opinion on politics this round, haven't heard he went full Trumper.

[PortTack]

36. Who could crush tsf....President Biden!

[Zeitghost]

37. Nobody

The country is split too evenly.

[Renew Deal]

38. I wonder if Beshear could get there.

And if he could win KY.

[List left]

40. Simple...Joe Biden When the party unifies behind him and we speak the truth loud and clear. Not polite.

Not holding back. Not letting anyone equivocate or derail the message.

[ForgedCrank]

44. Joe Biden

[kansasobama]

46. Michelle Obama

Who will not run. So, it is Biden

[Hekate]

47. Biden/Harris with the whole Dem establishment behind them running ads & op-eds & GOTV like mad

Throw all the effort and all the money at this endeavor.

[russiamommy]

48. Kamala and Roy Cooper

I admit I’m not a frequent poster. I’m one of those that tend to show up in election years. Like everyone, I’m heartbroken about where we are. But we’re here. If Biden does drop out, Kamala needs to be at the top of the ticket. For VP, I’d go with Roy Cooper. He’s a very popular governor in an arguably red state, and is not up for re-election. It could put NC into play. And sadly, I have to say that I think Kamala needs a white male on the ticket. I can’t see an all female ticket standing a chance. 😢

[Polybius]

50. No one in a landslide

But that's ok, I'll take a squeaker at this point.

[maspaha]

51. Yes! And Second Gentleman Travis Kelce, please!

[TheBlackAdder]

57. There were some sample polls three weeks ago that shows Michelle Obama would beat Trump by 12 points.

[Blue Owl]

59. Joe & Kamala did it once and they'll do it again!

[canetoad]

62. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris nt

[maveric]

64. In the perfect world, Pete Buttigeg.

Brilliant with true leadership qualities. But we all know why he wouldn’t get elected.