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kimbutgar

(27,558 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:36 PM Jul 2024

Is it me that I'm getting the feeling the mainstream media and rich Democrats want the convicted felon

Back in the White House? I’m trying to be optimistic but I’m furious over Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer etal are trying to push out President Biden and have accepted the convicted felon is going to win in November?

The only solution I think that would might save us is if Harris switches places with President Biden and we have a Harris / Biden ticket but I really want President Biden to still run for president

Vote Democrats save democracy vote for the convicted felon get a dictatorship.

Vote D get Democracy
vote R get a dictatorship that ends America

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Is it me that I'm getting the feeling the mainstream media and rich Democrats want the convicted felon (Original Post) kimbutgar Jul 2024 OP
Looks like revolt of the oligarchy. hume Jul 2024 #1
Schumer: when asked..."it's idle talk." Yes, some have stated it publicly, far fewer than those remaining quiet PortTack Jul 2024 #2
The rich donors are a "Straw Man" DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #3
Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer, and Jamie Raskin want Trump back in the White House? Bleacher Creature Jul 2024 #4
Spot on. n/t Xavier Breath Jul 2024 #5
I said they have accepted not that they wanted the convicted felon back in. kimbutgar Jul 2024 #7
A better way to explain is using the word nihilism. Emile Jul 2024 #13
Interesting word kimbutgar Jul 2024 #22
If they keep it up, we will get Trump back in the White House. LisaL Jul 2024 #8
It's you! tableturner Jul 2024 #6
I've been trying so hard to not let it get me down but the last few days are really wrecking havoc on my kimbutgar Jul 2024 #9
Nope. TwilightZone Jul 2024 #10
What, exactly, are they pursuing? lees1975 Jul 2024 #15
I have no idea. TwilightZone Jul 2024 #21
Yes exactly kimbutgar Jul 2024 #23
What? No way. BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #11
How do they think doing what they are doing is going to help beat Trump? LisaL Jul 2024 #12
They've said so, over and over and over again. BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #14
Last I checked, Pelosi is still waiting on Biden to make his decision. LisaL Jul 2024 #16
Not Pelosi, who is officially not come out one way or another... BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #17
It's hard to talk straight and still get elected. That is why we should limit to 1 term. That change is needed to save DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #20
Regardless of a flood of words, they're handing the election to Trump, the longer this three week old panic goes on. lees1975 Jul 2024 #18
It's fine that that's your opinion. BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #19
Yeah, rich Dems want Trump. You've cracked the code Azathoth Jul 2024 #24

PortTack

(35,824 posts)
2. Schumer: when asked..."it's idle talk." Yes, some have stated it publicly, far fewer than those remaining quiet
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:39 PM
Jul 2024

Bleacher Creature

(11,504 posts)
4. Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer, and Jamie Raskin want Trump back in the White House?
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:48 PM
Jul 2024

Seriously??? I think people need to take a step back from the conspiracy theories and realize that these are good Democrats doing what they think is right based on available data.

kimbutgar

(27,558 posts)
9. I've been trying so hard to not let it get me down but the last few days are really wrecking havoc on my
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:53 PM
Jul 2024

Confidence.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
10. Nope.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:54 PM
Jul 2024

I think they sincerely believe that Biden cannot win - probably internal polls in swing states - and want to do anything they can to ensure that Trump loses in November. If they didn't believe it, they wouldn't be pursuing this.

We may not agree with their conclusions or their methods, but I do not doubt at all that they truly believe this is the answer.

lees1975

(7,190 posts)
15. What, exactly, are they pursuing?
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:04 PM
Jul 2024

No one is on the same page, no one seems to be doing anything except trying to get Biden to step down. It's some of the most polltically incompetent leadership I've seen, and so typical of how Democrats so easily botch everything they touch. How many times has it been, in my lifetime, that some kind of party leadership infighting led to our Presidential candidate losing an election, or deciding not to run again? Johnson didn't run again, Humphrey lost because Wallace chose to run as an independent encouraged by some Southern Democrats, Carter got sold out by party leadership, Gore lost because of a fight among the party leadership, and we did this to Hillary Clinton.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
21. I have no idea.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:12 PM
Jul 2024

They don't seem to have looked ahead beyond replacing President Biden. If there was a slam-dunk candidate waiting in the wings and those wanting Biden out coalesced behind that person, the situation would at least make some sense on some level. I don't see any evidence of that and I haven't seen any evidence that any replacement is better at all, much less a slam dunk.

The leadership must be sitting on something pretty big for them to press the panic button like this. It would help if they'd bother to share their reasoning with the rest of us.

kimbutgar

(27,558 posts)
23. Yes exactly
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 11:29 PM
Jul 2024

We get scared easily the repukes bullies roll over us!

Couldn’t agree to your comment more

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,983 posts)
11. What? No way.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:56 PM
Jul 2024

They want the best possible candidate to go after Trump. They don't think that's Joe Biden.

They may be wrong. But they absolutely want to beat Trump.

LisaL

(47,510 posts)
12. How do they think doing what they are doing is going to help beat Trump?
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:59 PM
Jul 2024

Ignoring the results of the primary, trying to force the candidate who won the primary out, demonstrating lack of unity in the party. Is that going to help beating Trump?

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,983 posts)
14. They've said so, over and over and over again.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:03 PM
Jul 2024

They've all made statements, or written op-eds, or done interviews.

You may not agree with their reasoning, but they've made it clear.

LisaL

(47,510 posts)
16. Last I checked, Pelosi is still waiting on Biden to make his decision.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:06 PM
Jul 2024

Schiff is on record that according to him, Biden is not winning overwhelmingly because he is old. Well, Biden was old before the primary, so WTF did they keep quiet then? So it's clear as mud as to WTF they are doing and why.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,983 posts)
17. Not Pelosi, who is officially not come out one way or another...
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:08 PM
Jul 2024

But you can see read the statements of the ones who have openly stepped out. I'd link them, but I don't want to get banned.

DontBelieveEastisEas

(1,211 posts)
20. It's hard to talk straight and still get elected. That is why we should limit to 1 term. That change is needed to save
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:12 PM
Jul 2024
Democracy.

lees1975

(7,190 posts)
18. Regardless of a flood of words, they're handing the election to Trump, the longer this three week old panic goes on.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:10 PM
Jul 2024

They're hedging bets against certainty, and being extremely naive in their "traditional" approach to politics. Trump is involved, so the traditional politics, which includes a measure of respect and trust of opponents, is out the window.. Trump has openly pushed and pushed the too old theme in the hiopes Democrats would jump and push him out because he knows he can't win against him. And now he has help. Putin has stepped in. And baive Democrats have bought it hook line and sinker.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,983 posts)
19. It's fine that that's your opinion.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:12 PM
Jul 2024

Like I said, it's fine to disagree with them. I don't necessarily agree with them either. I was just answering the other person's question.

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