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totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:42 PM Jul 2024

Folks what we are witnessing here is a bona fide coup attempt.

Some so-called Democratic officials and some elected Democrats are trying to pull off a palace coup and push Joe Biden out of this race. And from what I understand they don't want Kamala Harris either. Roland Martin's podcast has a very good analysis of the situation and I think everybody should listen to it.

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Folks what we are witnessing here is a bona fide coup attempt. (Original Post) totodeinhere Jul 2024 OP
If their goal was to nominate someone guaranteed to lose to TSF... Girard442 Jul 2024 #1
Not going with Harris seems like an insane move. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #2
What is your solution to getting out of the hole we're currently in? LonePirate Jul 2024 #3
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #10
Interesting strategy. BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #13
The president needs to continue to make it clear that he is not dropping out. totodeinhere Jul 2024 #15
It could be FBaggins Jul 2024 #4
Coup increasingly appears to be the best word Amishman Jul 2024 #5
This rhetoric is ridiculous, and seriously minimizes the real coup attempt that happened on 1/6/21. tritsofme Jul 2024 #6
Where were these folks during the primaries? Blue Owl Jul 2024 #7
That would be unacceptable to most people. madaboutharry Jul 2024 #8
Yep. triron Jul 2024 #9
Really? Echoing a Trumpian talking point? Lancero Jul 2024 #11
I disagree, to put it mildly. BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #12
Don't be dramatic. Jirel Jul 2024 #14

Girard442

(6,924 posts)
1. If their goal was to nominate someone guaranteed to lose to TSF...
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:46 PM
Jul 2024

...they wouldn't be acting much differently than they are now.

Response to LonePirate (Reply #3)

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
15. The president needs to continue to make it clear that he is not dropping out.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:22 PM
Jul 2024

And of course he has made it clear many times that he is sticking with the vice president. Plus we need to work our butts off.

FBaggins

(28,772 posts)
4. It could be
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:47 PM
Jul 2024

But - if so - it’s some of the top people from the last 20 years.

I’m struggling to see how this results in a win

tritsofme

(19,935 posts)
6. This rhetoric is ridiculous, and seriously minimizes the real coup attempt that happened on 1/6/21.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:51 PM
Jul 2024

madaboutharry

(42,037 posts)
8. That would be unacceptable to most people.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:54 PM
Jul 2024

If President Biden steps aside the only acceptable option would be for Vice President Harris to be the nominee. I would go through a grieving process if Biden steps aside, but I would of course vote for Harris and a new VP.
If people try to shove her out of the way and replace the whole ticket? I don’t think democrats would stand for that. Then it would look like something nefarious and undemocratic.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,983 posts)
12. I disagree, to put it mildly.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:59 PM
Jul 2024

Asking a party leader to step aside is not a coup. It's not even close to a coup.

The rhetoric here is too hyperbolic. We have people calling this January 6 and a coup now. It's so strange.

Jirel

(2,385 posts)
14. Don't be dramatic.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:10 PM
Jul 2024

This is simply untrue. A party and its leadership get to have an honest, even forceful, discussion about the stakes and best options forward. A “coup” would be party leadership trying to oust a capable Biden from the presidency. A hard talk about whether he should be the candidate in the next election is NOT.

You may disagree. There are really good arguments made by people on both sides of this debate. But in the end THIS IS WHAT PARTIES DO IN HIGH STAKES ELECTIONS. Your discomfort comes from seeing more of that process than you normally would. Usually this whole discussion is conducted very covertly, but current events have made that impossible.

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