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pstokely

(10,891 posts)
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 12:45 AM Jul 2024

If Biden steps down, Big Bucks Donors "Not sure" about Harris. Want an Open Convention. (Daily Kos)

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2024/7/18/2255534/-If-Biden-steps-down-Big-Bucks-Donors-Not-sure-about-Harris-Want-an-Open-Convention
Both donors said there is still some uncertainty in the donor community about whether Harris can win against Trump.

“A lot of us think there should be an open convention. It would create a lot of excitement.”
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If Biden steps down, Big Bucks Donors "Not sure" about Harris. Want an Open Convention. (Daily Kos) (Original Post) pstokely Jul 2024 OP
too much money causes insanity DBoon Jul 2024 #1
Big bucks donors put cart in front of horse Blue Owl Jul 2024 #2
Nope - the donors are lining up to donate to Harris. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #24
President Biden is not stepping down! News flash...he is for sale!! PortTack Jul 2024 #3
Ahahahahaha oh man tell this to the Trust the people in the know camp. edisdead Jul 2024 #4
You mean "NOT for sale", right? Bongo Prophet Jul 2024 #19
An open convention would be a disaster. NYC Liberal Jul 2024 #5
Millions of lives and democracy itself hang in the balance NoveltySocks Jul 2024 #6
And there you go. nt BootinUp Jul 2024 #7
An open convention "would create a lot of excitement"?? Ocelot II Jul 2024 #8
an open convention fulfills the media's "Democrats in Disarray" prophecy narrative. ZonkerHarris Jul 2024 #33
So, they're still seeking a Unicorn/Sassquach ticket... regnaD kciN Jul 2024 #9
Will The MegaDonors Require a Racial Purity Test? MrWowWow Jul 2024 #10
Did Anyone Think This Was Not The Next Step? The Magistrate Jul 2024 #11
"It would create a lot of excitement." Emrys Jul 2024 #12
They Want To Be Entertained The Magistrate Jul 2024 #13
I could go on a rant here about decadence Emrys Jul 2024 #16
Gladiator Games. sheshe2 Jul 2024 #31
Excitement!!! More like anger from women and black voters. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #14
Are you not entertained?! bluesbassman Jul 2024 #15
No names given? flamingdem Jul 2024 #17
If you think people are pissed now... RandySF Jul 2024 #18
"the donor community" Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #20
What bullshit EndlessWire Jul 2024 #21
Of course they do ribrepin Jul 2024 #22
It's not their call. Straw Man Jul 2024 #23
I agree. If we keep an open mind and let the delegates decide oldmanlynn Jul 2024 #25
Nobody should give a shit what the donors want. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #26
He is not stepping down. This is all speculative fiction. n/t valleyrogue Jul 2024 #27
Time to stop posting anonymous sourced articles about donors taking away 14 million votes! GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #28
More like chaos. F'em! Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #29
At this late date, if Biden doesn't run, it would surely be Harris. radius777 Jul 2024 #30
toldja ZonkerHarris Jul 2024 #32
Um, Biden voter here, I'm pretty sure I voted for Kamala too Rstrstx Jul 2024 #34
The students for Hamas want an open convention too. tirebiter Jul 2024 #35
They won't ever be happy LostOne4Ever Jul 2024 #36
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #37
Knew it! no_hypocrisy Jul 2024 #38
Big bucks donors can go pound sand. raccoon Jul 2024 #39
They aren't "Donors". They are chaos agents. no_hypocrisy Jul 2024 #40
Jesus F Christ. I am so sick of the power of money! GPV Jul 2024 #41
AOC Posted This On Instagram This Morning Rubyshoo Jul 2024 #42
Said it before. I'll say it again: angrychair Jul 2024 #43

NoveltySocks

(415 posts)
6. Millions of lives and democracy itself hang in the balance
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 12:51 AM
Jul 2024

But these clowns want to be entertained. smh

Ocelot II

(130,533 posts)
8. An open convention "would create a lot of excitement"??
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 12:53 AM
Jul 2024

Yeah.There was a lot of excitement at the 1968 convention, too. Anybody remember who won the election that year?

MrWowWow

(1,461 posts)
10. Will The MegaDonors Require a Racial Purity Test?
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 12:56 AM
Jul 2024

Last edited Fri Jul 19, 2024, 04:25 AM - Edit history (1)

Or something like the "Gom Jabbar" from "Dune?" What exactly do these Big Donors want for their mony ("Midnight Cowboy" spelling version)?

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
11. Did Anyone Think This Was Not The Next Step?
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 12:56 AM
Jul 2024


"This pretense of not knowing what any idiot knows has come to dominate our political discourse."



The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
13. They Want To Be Entertained
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 01:00 AM
Jul 2024

Watching people fight is fun, and if they're paying, they want a show....

sheshe2

(97,626 posts)
31. Gladiator Games.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 01:49 AM
Jul 2024

They were highly organized and monitored.

Violent entertainment.

Let the games begin!

RandySF

(84,280 posts)
18. If you think people are pissed now...
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 01:04 AM
Jul 2024

just wait until the party passes over the country’s fist and only Black female VP who dutifully served party and country while putting up with the media’s bullshit.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
21. What bullshit
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 01:13 AM
Jul 2024

Well, I don't need to see another big donor ad. There are two guys running. One guy is smart, experienced, and upstanding, the other is a vicious, mean, fascist criminal. I vote for Biden, the good guy.

ribrepin

(1,902 posts)
22. Of course they do
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 01:15 AM
Jul 2024

Last edited Fri Jul 19, 2024, 03:54 AM - Edit history (1)

There will be a lot EXCITEMENT alright!!!! After that, they will have even more reason to withhold donations. I remember how damaged Carter was by the challenge from Kennedy. People were talking about a brokered convention when Carter already had enough votes to get the nomination.

What remains to be seen is if Pelosi can rein them in or if the benjamins will rule.

Straw Man

(6,947 posts)
23. It's not their call.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 01:22 AM
Jul 2024

If they want Biden out badly enough, I would think that gives him tremendous leverage in the choice of successor, i.e. "I will step aside only if Kamala Harris gets the nomination."

valleyrogue

(2,715 posts)
26. Nobody should give a shit what the donors want.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 01:30 AM
Jul 2024

Biden is staying in. They can go pound sand.

 

GoreWon2000

(1,461 posts)
28. Time to stop posting anonymous sourced articles about donors taking away 14 million votes!
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 01:35 AM
Jul 2024

These rich people don't run the Democratic Party. We the people run the Democratic party.

radius777

(3,921 posts)
30. At this late date, if Biden doesn't run, it would surely be Harris.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 01:42 AM
Jul 2024

She's qualified for the job, has the smarts/ability to make the Dem case, is the first female/black VP. She's never lost a race. The upside is there. There is no guaranteed win, but the ability to run an energetic and aggressive campaign exists if she's the nominee in a way that it does not now - especially if we pick a good VP from a swing state like Shapiro.

Rstrstx

(1,648 posts)
34. Um, Biden voter here, I'm pretty sure I voted for Kamala too
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 02:02 AM
Jul 2024

She is there in case Biden cannot or is forced out “chooses” not to serve. I knew good and well that an 80 year old may not be able to finish the term and also knew who his replacement would be.

If this “Biden must go” stuff becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy then fine, I’ve already voted on a Plan B. In fact I’d just as soon that Biden resign and give Kamala some governing experience but it would have to happen ASAP. I think she would step up to the moment. If she doesn’t and it turns out to be disastrous then the delegates could think about someone else, but as far as I’m concerned I voted for her too and that should count for something. The only real risk would be that we might be without a VP for a while if the House didn’t approve one, but I think it would be worth the risk so we could get an idea of what a Harris administration might look like.

If she wanted her popularity among Democrats to improve there are a few things she could do right away, like asking for Merrick Garland’s resignation.

Response to pstokely (Original post)

no_hypocrisy

(54,906 posts)
40. They aren't "Donors". They are chaos agents.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:47 AM
Jul 2024

I'd wager they're also donating to Trump.

I wouldn't be surprised if this "strategy" of getting Biden to step aside and have an open convention wasn't formulated by Steve Bannon and/or Roger Stone. I wasn't sure until the open convention was introduced into the fold.

angrychair

(12,284 posts)
43. Said it before. I'll say it again:
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 11:11 AM
Jul 2024
Fuck billionaires. They are antithetical to the platform of the Democratic Party and should be purged from all Party issues. Don't want to give to our nominee? Cool. Fuck off and keep fucking off forever.
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