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(94,269 posts)
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:10 AM Jul 2024

Jon Meacham tells CBS reports of him working on a speech for Biden to exit the race are "totally false."

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Jon Meacham, a historian who has contributed to some speeches by President Biden, tells CBS News that reports Thursday of him working on a speech for Biden to exit the race are "totally false."


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Jon Meacham tells CBS reports of him working on a speech for Biden to exit the race are "totally false." (Original Post) bigtree Jul 2024 OP
They are working hard at creating all this rumor mill stuff.. Peacetrain Jul 2024 #1
That's a rumour thread that should be followed to see who put it out there first. OnDoutside Jul 2024 #2
see post 5 Celerity Jul 2024 #7
Thanks ! Wow, THAT rat, I thought we'd seen the last of him. OnDoutside Jul 2024 #20
Newsmax shitbag serial sexual harasser Mark Halperin Celerity Jul 2024 #5
I should've just read you first before I went looking Sympthsical Jul 2024 #11
Somehow Hasn't The Ring Of A Fella With An Inside Pipeline To Mr. Biden's White House, Ma'am... The Magistrate Jul 2024 #13
This one came from Newsmax Sympthsical Jul 2024 #9
Media is just MAKING SHIT UP, APPARENTLY. Captain Zero Jul 2024 #19
At last someone refuting media reports. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #3
It would be disastrous, if he was going to drop out AfroWorldTraveler Jul 2024 #4
I think we can safely say... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #6
In light of today's crowdstrike outage... OneGrassRoot Jul 2024 #8
Probably none Sympthsical Jul 2024 #10
I meant in general, how much of the online media headlines/reports are generated by AI. n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2024 #17
Legacy media's mostly ok Sympthsical Jul 2024 #18
The rumor is coming from a RW guy named Mark Halperin. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #14
Definitely not "artificial intelligence" but genuine stupidity. n/t valleyrogue Jul 2024 #16
Halperin used to be on MSNBC all the time with John Heilemann, until he got exposed as a serial sexual harasser. OnDoutside Jul 2024 #21
I am sure Rebl2 Jul 2024 #12
The media are clearly making shit up, and they are doing it for ratings/ad revenue. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #15
Agreed Rebl2 Jul 2024 #22

Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
1. They are working hard at creating all this rumor mill stuff..
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:12 AM
Jul 2024

I always wonder "who reports" is

Celerity

(54,410 posts)
5. Newsmax shitbag serial sexual harasser Mark Halperin
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:26 AM
Jul 2024
Newsmax analyst claims to have detailed plans for Biden dropout in coming days

A controversial veteran political analyst claims to have a detailed picture of imminent plans for President Joe Biden to exit the 2024 presidential race.

https://www.rawstory.com/newsmax-report-biden-dropout/

According to Mark Halperin in a post on X, "Multiple sources outline the apparent state of play on Biden at this time: plans to announce withdrawal from nomination as early as this weekend, with Sunday most likely; Jon Meacham polishing up remarks; Biden will NOT resign the presidency; Biden will NOT endorse Harris; open convention with Harris and about 3 others; super delegates will not be allowed to vote on 1st ballot; Harris is vetting at least four possible running mates, including Andy Beshear and possibly [Josh] Shapiro."





In a segment on the right-wing network Newsmax, Halperin added that California Gov. Gavin Newsom is also in consideration for Harris' running mate; however, Halperin did not explain how Harris would in that case circumvent the 12th Amendment restriction on two people from the same state on one ticket.

He did not elaborate on his sources for any of these claims, and Andrew Bates, a senior White House assistant, responded by saying, "this fan fiction is wrong." Halperin used to be a prominent political commentator for NBC News, but was fired in 2017 after a number of women came forward to accuse him of sexual harassment. He went on for a time to advise No Labels, a bipartisan group that unsuccessfully sought to run a third-party presidential candidate this year, and is currently working as a commentator for far-right Newsmax.




Regardless of Halperin's claims, other sources have also reported that Biden is weighing a possible announcement of withdrawal from the race as early as this weekend, although officials close to the president continue to assert this is not the case and Biden has every intention to continue his campaign.

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Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
11. I should've just read you first before I went looking
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:40 AM
Jul 2024

Came up with exactly the same info.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
13. Somehow Hasn't The Ring Of A Fella With An Inside Pipeline To Mr. Biden's White House, Ma'am...
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:41 AM
Jul 2024

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
9. This one came from Newsmax
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:35 AM
Jul 2024

I had to look it up, because I hadn't even heard a whisper of such a thing.

It tracks, because I never read Newsmax.

 
4. It would be disastrous, if he was going to drop out
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:22 AM
Jul 2024

he should have never run for re-election. I'm glad he's not dropping out because history says it's a bad idea.

GiqueCee

(4,259 posts)
6. I think we can safely say...
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:26 AM
Jul 2024

... that every word we hear from a network news anchor's mouth about Biden is a bald-faced lie composed by an oligarch's – or Putin's – lackey.
Can't tell one from the other without a program.

OneGrassRoot

(23,953 posts)
8. In light of today's crowdstrike outage...
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:29 AM
Jul 2024

how much of the online media reports are being generated by AI, do you think? Especially the headline articles?

OneGrassRoot

(23,953 posts)
17. I meant in general, how much of the online media headlines/reports are generated by AI. n/t
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:56 AM
Jul 2024

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
18. Legacy media's mostly ok
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 11:06 AM
Jul 2024

But some online news spaces have been caught. I'm thinking of an incident with Sports Illustrated not too long ago. A lot of clickbait celebrity news sites have been caught out. Some science articles (from sites I have issues with anyway) seem to be constructed that way.

But for major news and information, for all the shit it gets, the MSM is probably fine. If the NYT, for example, got caught out with AI, their reputation would take a major hit, such as it is. I doubt they'd risk it.

LeftInTX

(34,302 posts)
14. The rumor is coming from a RW guy named Mark Halperin.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:44 AM
Jul 2024

A few weeks ago, Trump himself said that he got Biden to quit the race.

I wish Trump was an AI creation, but unfortunately orange julius is real.

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OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
21. Halperin used to be on MSNBC all the time with John Heilemann, until he got exposed as a serial sexual harasser.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 01:05 PM
Jul 2024

Remembering back to 2016 he regularly did Hillary down.

Rebl2

(17,743 posts)
12. I am sure
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:41 AM
Jul 2024

Jon Meacham would never say anything about this to anyone. I have always felt he is an honorable and trustworthy man.

valleyrogue

(2,716 posts)
15. The media are clearly making shit up, and they are doing it for ratings/ad revenue.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 10:52 AM
Jul 2024

We have had insinuation and editorializing presented as fact. This is from the general "news" organizations as well as talking heads like Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann who are allegedly on "our" side. Hell, we are actually being told falsehoods openly, which the targets of the falsehoods have had to state publicly the falsehoods are false.

It is totally cynical. They are literally manufacturing a "crisis" some in the Democratic Party have swallowed hook, line, and sinker. They are doing it for the money.

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