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delisen

(7,422 posts)
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:01 PM Jul 2024

Do these Big Donors want Trump presidency and Dem congress?

This is the only way the current mess makes sense to me.

The messy process can be turning off masses of presidential voters. Yet they have risked this. Why? It is almost like ceding the presidential election to chance.

If legislators are being promised money in exchange for coming out against Biden in public we have a massive problem Are these big donors ( so far I have read these are mostly bitcoin oligarchs ,) preferring a Trump presidency, an imperial presidency.?

After the SC immunity decision the presidency is much more powerful than the Congress.

Seems to me that after the election the divide in the party will be between Centrists and Progressive idealists on one side and Economic *realist”.on the other.

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Do these Big Donors want Trump presidency and Dem congress? (Original Post) delisen Jul 2024 OP
There won't be a legislative branch of government with two parties PikaBlue Jul 2024 #1
Trump might be threatening donors like he did with Zelinskii Freethinker65 Jul 2024 #2
If Trump wins, the GOP also gets the House and Senate sanatanadharma Jul 2024 #3

PikaBlue

(495 posts)
1. There won't be a legislative branch of government with two parties
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:15 PM
Jul 2024

Does anyone believe that if Trump wins the election, he isn't going to dismantle the legislative branch of government as we have known it? It will exist, but democratic representatives won't be included. With expended executive powers and presidential immunity, he simply declares Dems to be a terrorist organization and dissolves the party. We won't be having genuine elections anyway so why would we vote? The SC will support him because under the originalism of the Articles of Confederation (AOC), there were no political parties. Unfortunately, having discarded the US Constitution, the Court had to stretch back to the AOC to find precedent.

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
2. Trump might be threatening donors like he did with Zelinskii
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:15 PM
Jul 2024

Do me a favor and my administration with make your lives and livelihoods much easier, (deregulation, cushy essentially non-bid government contracts, all the special VISAs you want, etc.). If I learn you are still donating to Biden, and I win, be prepared to be put through hell. SCOTUS will approve of this behavior as a Presidential duty, at least until after Trump leaves office and these tactics get reviewed in lower courts.

Of course if Biden ends up winning, Biden will continue to treat all businesses and corporations as fairly as possible (like never threatening to deny Red areas where representatives voted against Biden's infrastructure bill aid for worthwhile projects).

sanatanadharma

(4,090 posts)
3. If Trump wins, the GOP also gets the House and Senate
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:04 PM
Jul 2024

If Trump wins, the GOP also gest the House and Senate.
A Trump win means a maga-turnout and mangled government and the loss of democracy as known from old Athens to old DC.
There is no "we can ride it out and try to limit his damage."
A Trump win sinks all of the boats, burns down the Balsa forests, and dismantles all the memorial stones of a no-longer shinning city on the hill.

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