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Michelle Obama crushes Trump in hypothetical matchup- Newsweek on Reuters/Ipsos poll: 50%-39% (Original Post) KentuckyStiffRipple Jul 19 OP
So Michelle is the Magical Sparkly Unicorn... regnaD kciN Jul 19 #1
Nobody would give a rats ass about policy proposals BannonsLiver Jul 19 #2
My very serious son (who is a prosecutor!) cannot give up his wanting Michelle to run. He's said that since the Obamas CTyankee Jul 19 #12
I think it's likely that they want Barack O back, spooky3 Jul 19 #33
She is a beautiful woman and as a couple they are fabulous. CTyankee Jul 19 #39
Trump had no experience. The political outsider-factor is a plus. Doodley Jul 19 #27
I keep seeing people saying that MO does NOT want to, nor will she, run. Seeking Serenity Jul 19 #3
Because if Biden is stepping aside regardless, maybe she'll change her mind. KentuckyStiffRipple Jul 19 #4
I guess wishing for a rainbow unicorn soothes some people. Seeking Serenity Jul 19 #5
She's not a unicorn. She's a living human being who can run if she decides to and KentuckyStiffRipple Jul 19 #8
Except she's said she doesn't WANT it Seeking Serenity Jul 19 #10
She's been very clear that she's not interested. TwilightZone Jul 19 #16
She hasn't been in a position where she could save America. Doodley Jul 19 #28
Probably the same or similar reason MorbidButterflyTat Jul 19 #36
Hillary had very high approval ratings as Senator and SoS. NYC Liberal Jul 19 #6
That's absolutely true. LisaL Jul 19 #7
And many on the left-wing. MSNBC was very anti-Hillary. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 19 #15
"Misogyny is the last acceptable bigotry of the Left" whathehell Jul 20 #40
Biden is the only battle tested candidate ColinC Jul 19 #22
And he has a strong presidential record on which to run. Nt spooky3 Jul 19 #34
Yes, it took work to convince people that she was unpopular, and disinformation still being pushed: betsuni Jul 19 #31
Silly. Freethinker65 Jul 19 #9
The key must be that the Dems win, rather than who runs. Let's not hand this to Trump. dutch777 Jul 19 #11
100 percent agree Rstrstx Jul 19 #29
Obama/Swift Beachnutt Jul 19 #13
So, discounting Michelle, which is fantasy at this point, Biden still does the best vs Trump. Self Esteem Jul 19 #14
Most voters know very little about the other candidates, apart from Michelle Obama. You'd expect them to get a boost. Doodley Jul 19 #37
They didn't include Taylor Swift or Oprah or Matthew McConaughey or Brad Pitt LeftInTX Jul 19 #17
Here's a tip: SHE'S NOT A POLITICIAN AND SHE IS NOT RUNNING. ... Hekate Jul 19 #18
Why don't we ask Oprah while we are at it? LostOne4Ever Jul 19 #19
Who Gives a Sh*t? I Certainly Don't. This is Just Media Click Bait. Indykatie Jul 19 #20
Ridiculous, she is not qualified. Pisces Jul 19 #21
Neither is Trump. whathehell Jul 19 #32
This is Madness. The Media Needs to Stop Trying to Gin Up More Chaos. Indykatie Jul 19 #23
She ain't running and has no interest in running nt doc03 Jul 19 #24
The only people that are more hated than Joe Biden... kentuck Jul 19 #25
Oh, for fuck's sake. Scrivener7 Jul 19 #26
I grow weary of the unnecessary hypotheticals. Duncan Grant Jul 19 #30
As long as she's just hypothetical - which she will always be, since she's made it clear Ocelot II Jul 19 #35
She wouldn't want VP manicdem Jul 19 #38

regnaD kciN

(26,398 posts)
1. So Michelle is the Magical Sparkly Unicorn...
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:12 PM
Jul 19

...despite having repeatedly said that she has no interest in holding office?

Besides, if she could be persuaded to run, you can count on the MSM immediately spending 100% of their time harping on her complete inexperience plus lack of policy proposals.

CTyankee

(64,485 posts)
12. My very serious son (who is a prosecutor!) cannot give up his wanting Michelle to run. He's said that since the Obamas
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:35 PM
Jul 19

left office. I love Michelle but I can't understand the impulse to want her (esp. since we have Joe!).

Seeking Serenity

(2,908 posts)
3. I keep seeing people saying that MO does NOT want to, nor will she, run.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:16 PM
Jul 19

In light of that, why do we keep seeing these kinds of posts? Just curious.

KentuckyStiffRipple

(4,625 posts)
4. Because if Biden is stepping aside regardless, maybe she'll change her mind.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:18 PM
Jul 19

And maybe she's seen the polls showing clearly that she's the strongest Democratic candidate, and that other candidates, like Harris, will likely lose to Trump.

KentuckyStiffRipple

(4,625 posts)
8. She's not a unicorn. She's a living human being who can run if she decides to and
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:24 PM
Jul 19

would quite likely destroy Trump in an election.

MorbidButterflyTat

(2,421 posts)
36. Probably the same or similar reason
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:32 PM
Jul 19

we keep seeing posts about President Biden stepping down even though he has said, repeatedly, that he is NOT.

NYC Liberal

(20,320 posts)
6. Hillary had very high approval ratings as Senator and SoS.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:21 PM
Jul 19

They dropped every time she ran for office.

Those numbers mean nothing when she isn’t being actively targeted by the entire right-wing campaign apparatus.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,665 posts)
15. And many on the left-wing. MSNBC was very anti-Hillary.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:38 PM
Jul 19

So was most of the so-called “left-leaning” media.

ColinC

(9,732 posts)
22. Biden is the only battle tested candidate
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:57 PM
Jul 19

He’s the only one where the numbers actually will have any kind of accuracy.

betsuni

(27,003 posts)
31. Yes, it took work to convince people that she was unpopular, and disinformation still being pushed:
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:21 PM
Jul 19

"Prior to running for president she had a 66 percent approval rating. She ranked high among the most admired women in the world. She was commended by politicians on both sides on the aisle for her ability to work with Republicans as well as members of her own party. ... By 2014, a year before Hillary announced her intention to run for president, a New York Times/CBS poll found that 82% of Democrats favored Clinton over both Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren, and a Quinnipiac poll reported that registered voters in Ohio (yes -- Ohio) chose Clinton over the six likely Republican candidates: Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and John Kasich. 'If the election were held tomorrow, ' John McCain said, 'Hillary Clinton would most likely be president.'

"But as her friend, and former congresswoman, Ellen Tauscher had warned her before she left the State Department, that would all change once she actually entered the ring. 'The moment you move back into politics,' Tauscher told her, ''you go from 66 to 46 to 26 faster than a split second.' ... It was relentless -- and if you think this is an exaggeration, just take a look at the June 2016 report from Harvard's Shorenstein Center which showed that even when 'scandals' were not involved, 84 percent of Clinton's coverage was negative compared to 43 percent of Trump's and 17 percent of Sanders's. The report notes, 'Clinton's negative coverage can be compared to millions of dollars in attack ads, with her on the receiving end.'"

Susan Bordo

Happened to Elizabeth Warren when she ran for office, will happen to anyone.

dutch777

(3,267 posts)
11. The key must be that the Dems win, rather than who runs. Let's not hand this to Trump.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:33 PM
Jul 19

I will support Joe, Kamala, Gavin...any solid Dem, but please DNC et. al. let's do our due diligence on how we get to the Win. And we must also remember the House, Senate and down ballot races. Americans sometimes seem to think the President is the one and only political power (especially during the campaign) who can almost do things by fiat but most of us know that is not even close to reality. Let's play to reality and play to win.

Rstrstx

(1,501 posts)
29. 100 percent agree
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:13 PM
Jul 19

People who keep pushing to run seem oblivious to the toll it’s been taking on him. He’s gotten sick twice now in the past 3 weeks, he is 81 and we are asking him to save the future of the country. The weight of the world is on his shoulders and the stakes could not be higher. I love the guy but he is not Superman.

Self Esteem

(862 posts)
14. So, discounting Michelle, which is fantasy at this point, Biden still does the best vs Trump.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:36 PM
Jul 19

But yes, let's dump him and throw the whole election into chaos on the chance another Democrat can win.

Sounds smart.

Doodley

(9,797 posts)
37. Most voters know very little about the other candidates, apart from Michelle Obama. You'd expect them to get a boost.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:41 PM
Jul 19

Hekate

(93,409 posts)
18. Here's a tip: SHE'S NOT A POLITICIAN AND SHE IS NOT RUNNING. ...
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:43 PM
Jul 19

Also, remember Michelle Obama was viciously attacked by the Right Wing all thru her husband’s administration. An “ape in high heels in our White House” is just one nauseating sample.


LostOne4Ever

(9,545 posts)
19. Why don't we ask Oprah while we are at it?
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:47 PM
Jul 19

Dolly Parton and Willie Nelson would also do well against Trump.

How about we try realistic solutions instead of these fantasy matchups that won't ever happen?

Indykatie

(3,817 posts)
23. This is Madness. The Media Needs to Stop Trying to Gin Up More Chaos.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:57 PM
Jul 19

Does anyone think that the country would elect a ticket with 2 Black women? Call me cynical but I certainly don't.

kentuck

(112,199 posts)
25. The only people that are more hated than Joe Biden...
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:03 PM
Jul 19

....are Barack and Michelle Obama.

Nothing would get the Repubs to the polls like an Obama on the ticket.

Duncan Grant

(8,388 posts)
30. I grow weary of the unnecessary hypotheticals.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:18 PM
Jul 19

If hypotheticals are your thing, by all means, indulge. As for me, I don’t find them constructive or based in reality (Michelle Obama?).

If one is serious about this manipulated crisis, let’s evaluate the 3 weeks of evidence calling for Biden to step down. One debate and proprietary polling have not convinced me this is anything more than a PR campaign that benefits RWNJs — not democrats. Something is very wrong and I don’t think it’s Joe Biden.

Ocelot II

(119,061 posts)
35. As long as she's just hypothetical - which she will always be, since she's made it clear
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:32 PM
Jul 19

many times that she has absolutely no interest in running for any public office - she will poll well. If she were to change her mind and actually do it, those numbers would drop dramatically as soon as the MAGA smears started. But yeah, she's the sparkly unicorn du jour, like Oprah once was, and even that reprobate Michael Avenatti. DU was in love with that dirtbag for a little while.

manicdem

(487 posts)
38. She wouldn't want VP
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:45 PM
Jul 19

Michelle doesn't seem the type to be a VP or serve in Kamala's shadow. She's a strong leader. If she was interested in running that is.

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