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KentuckyStiffRipple

(4,625 posts)
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:10 PM Jul 2024

Michelle Obama crushes Trump in hypothetical matchup- Newsweek on Reuters/Ipsos poll: 50%-39%

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/only-michelle-obama-bests-trump-alternative-biden-2024

https://www.newsweek.com/michelle-obama-crushes-donald-trump-poll-1920473

Don't replace Biden without a clear replacement candidate who WILL beat Trump. Harris would very likely lose to Trump. Newsom has a better chance than Harris but I'd prefer Biden.

If Michelle Obama truly won't run, don't replace Biden.
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Michelle Obama crushes Trump in hypothetical matchup- Newsweek on Reuters/Ipsos poll: 50%-39% (Original Post) KentuckyStiffRipple Jul 2024 OP
So Michelle is the Magical Sparkly Unicorn... regnaD kciN Jul 2024 #1
Nobody would give a rats ass about policy proposals BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #2
My very serious son (who is a prosecutor!) cannot give up his wanting Michelle to run. He's said that since the Obamas CTyankee Jul 2024 #12
I think it's likely that they want Barack O back, spooky3 Jul 2024 #33
She is a beautiful woman and as a couple they are fabulous. CTyankee Jul 2024 #39
Trump had no experience. The political outsider-factor is a plus. Doodley Jul 2024 #27
I keep seeing people saying that MO does NOT want to, nor will she, run. Seeking Serenity Jul 2024 #3
Because if Biden is stepping aside regardless, maybe she'll change her mind. KentuckyStiffRipple Jul 2024 #4
I guess wishing for a rainbow unicorn soothes some people. Seeking Serenity Jul 2024 #5
She's not a unicorn. She's a living human being who can run if she decides to and KentuckyStiffRipple Jul 2024 #8
Except she's said she doesn't WANT it Seeking Serenity Jul 2024 #10
She's been very clear that she's not interested. TwilightZone Jul 2024 #16
She hasn't been in a position where she could save America. Doodley Jul 2024 #28
Probably the same or similar reason MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #36
Hillary had very high approval ratings as Senator and SoS. NYC Liberal Jul 2024 #6
That's absolutely true. LisaL Jul 2024 #7
And many on the left-wing. MSNBC was very anti-Hillary. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #15
"Misogyny is the last acceptable bigotry of the Left" whathehell Jul 2024 #40
Biden is the only battle tested candidate ColinC Jul 2024 #22
And he has a strong presidential record on which to run. Nt spooky3 Jul 2024 #34
Yes, it took work to convince people that she was unpopular, and disinformation still being pushed: betsuni Jul 2024 #31
Silly. Freethinker65 Jul 2024 #9
The key must be that the Dems win, rather than who runs. Let's not hand this to Trump. dutch777 Jul 2024 #11
100 percent agree Rstrstx Jul 2024 #29
Obama/Swift Beachnutt Jul 2024 #13
So, discounting Michelle, which is fantasy at this point, Biden still does the best vs Trump. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #14
Most voters know very little about the other candidates, apart from Michelle Obama. You'd expect them to get a boost. Doodley Jul 2024 #37
They didn't include Taylor Swift or Oprah or Matthew McConaughey or Brad Pitt LeftInTX Jul 2024 #17
Here's a tip: SHE'S NOT A POLITICIAN AND SHE IS NOT RUNNING. ... Hekate Jul 2024 #18
Why don't we ask Oprah while we are at it? LostOne4Ever Jul 2024 #19
Who Gives a Sh*t? I Certainly Don't. This is Just Media Click Bait. Indykatie Jul 2024 #20
Ridiculous, she is not qualified. Pisces Jul 2024 #21
Neither is Trump. whathehell Jul 2024 #32
This is Madness. The Media Needs to Stop Trying to Gin Up More Chaos. Indykatie Jul 2024 #23
She ain't running and has no interest in running nt doc03 Jul 2024 #24
The only people that are more hated than Joe Biden... kentuck Jul 2024 #25
Oh, for fuck's sake. Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #26
I grow weary of the unnecessary hypotheticals. Duncan Grant Jul 2024 #30
As long as she's just hypothetical - which she will always be, since she's made it clear Ocelot II Jul 2024 #35
She wouldn't want VP manicdem Jul 2024 #38

regnaD kciN

(26,885 posts)
1. So Michelle is the Magical Sparkly Unicorn...
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:12 PM
Jul 2024

...despite having repeatedly said that she has no interest in holding office?

Besides, if she could be persuaded to run, you can count on the MSM immediately spending 100% of their time harping on her complete inexperience plus lack of policy proposals.

CTyankee

(65,905 posts)
12. My very serious son (who is a prosecutor!) cannot give up his wanting Michelle to run. He's said that since the Obamas
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:35 PM
Jul 2024

left office. I love Michelle but I can't understand the impulse to want her (esp. since we have Joe!).

spooky3

(37,265 posts)
33. I think it's likely that they want Barack O back,
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:25 PM
Jul 2024

In addition to her intelligence and charisma.

Seeking Serenity

(3,151 posts)
3. I keep seeing people saying that MO does NOT want to, nor will she, run.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:16 PM
Jul 2024

In light of that, why do we keep seeing these kinds of posts? Just curious.

KentuckyStiffRipple

(4,625 posts)
4. Because if Biden is stepping aside regardless, maybe she'll change her mind.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:18 PM
Jul 2024

And maybe she's seen the polls showing clearly that she's the strongest Democratic candidate, and that other candidates, like Harris, will likely lose to Trump.

KentuckyStiffRipple

(4,625 posts)
8. She's not a unicorn. She's a living human being who can run if she decides to and
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:24 PM
Jul 2024

would quite likely destroy Trump in an election.

MorbidButterflyTat

(2,754 posts)
36. Probably the same or similar reason
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:32 PM
Jul 2024

we keep seeing posts about President Biden stepping down even though he has said, repeatedly, that he is NOT.

NYC Liberal

(20,400 posts)
6. Hillary had very high approval ratings as Senator and SoS.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:21 PM
Jul 2024

They dropped every time she ran for office.

Those numbers mean nothing when she isn’t being actively targeted by the entire right-wing campaign apparatus.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,734 posts)
15. And many on the left-wing. MSNBC was very anti-Hillary.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:38 PM
Jul 2024

So was most of the so-called “left-leaning” media.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
22. Biden is the only battle tested candidate
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:57 PM
Jul 2024

He’s the only one where the numbers actually will have any kind of accuracy.

betsuni

(27,693 posts)
31. Yes, it took work to convince people that she was unpopular, and disinformation still being pushed:
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:21 PM
Jul 2024

"Prior to running for president she had a 66 percent approval rating. She ranked high among the most admired women in the world. She was commended by politicians on both sides on the aisle for her ability to work with Republicans as well as members of her own party. ... By 2014, a year before Hillary announced her intention to run for president, a New York Times/CBS poll found that 82% of Democrats favored Clinton over both Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren, and a Quinnipiac poll reported that registered voters in Ohio (yes -- Ohio) chose Clinton over the six likely Republican candidates: Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and John Kasich. 'If the election were held tomorrow, ' John McCain said, 'Hillary Clinton would most likely be president.'

"But as her friend, and former congresswoman, Ellen Tauscher had warned her before she left the State Department, that would all change once she actually entered the ring. 'The moment you move back into politics,' Tauscher told her, ''you go from 66 to 46 to 26 faster than a split second.' ... It was relentless -- and if you think this is an exaggeration, just take a look at the June 2016 report from Harvard's Shorenstein Center which showed that even when 'scandals' were not involved, 84 percent of Clinton's coverage was negative compared to 43 percent of Trump's and 17 percent of Sanders's. The report notes, 'Clinton's negative coverage can be compared to millions of dollars in attack ads, with her on the receiving end.'"

Susan Bordo

Happened to Elizabeth Warren when she ran for office, will happen to anyone.

dutch777

(4,172 posts)
11. The key must be that the Dems win, rather than who runs. Let's not hand this to Trump.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:33 PM
Jul 2024

I will support Joe, Kamala, Gavin...any solid Dem, but please DNC et. al. let's do our due diligence on how we get to the Win. And we must also remember the House, Senate and down ballot races. Americans sometimes seem to think the President is the one and only political power (especially during the campaign) who can almost do things by fiat but most of us know that is not even close to reality. Let's play to reality and play to win.

Rstrstx

(1,591 posts)
29. 100 percent agree
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:13 PM
Jul 2024

People who keep pushing to run seem oblivious to the toll it’s been taking on him. He’s gotten sick twice now in the past 3 weeks, he is 81 and we are asking him to save the future of the country. The weight of the world is on his shoulders and the stakes could not be higher. I love the guy but he is not Superman.

Self Esteem

(2,027 posts)
14. So, discounting Michelle, which is fantasy at this point, Biden still does the best vs Trump.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:36 PM
Jul 2024

But yes, let's dump him and throw the whole election into chaos on the chance another Democrat can win.

Sounds smart.

Doodley

(10,649 posts)
37. Most voters know very little about the other candidates, apart from Michelle Obama. You'd expect them to get a boost.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:41 PM
Jul 2024

Hekate

(96,978 posts)
18. Here's a tip: SHE'S NOT A POLITICIAN AND SHE IS NOT RUNNING. ...
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:43 PM
Jul 2024

Also, remember Michelle Obama was viciously attacked by the Right Wing all thru her husband’s administration. An “ape in high heels in our White House” is just one nauseating sample.


LostOne4Ever

(9,636 posts)
19. Why don't we ask Oprah while we are at it?
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:47 PM
Jul 2024

Dolly Parton and Willie Nelson would also do well against Trump.

How about we try realistic solutions instead of these fantasy matchups that won't ever happen?

Indykatie

(3,853 posts)
23. This is Madness. The Media Needs to Stop Trying to Gin Up More Chaos.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 05:57 PM
Jul 2024

Does anyone think that the country would elect a ticket with 2 Black women? Call me cynical but I certainly don't.

kentuck

(113,398 posts)
25. The only people that are more hated than Joe Biden...
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:03 PM
Jul 2024

....are Barack and Michelle Obama.

Nothing would get the Repubs to the polls like an Obama on the ticket.

Duncan Grant

(8,672 posts)
30. I grow weary of the unnecessary hypotheticals.
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:18 PM
Jul 2024

If hypotheticals are your thing, by all means, indulge. As for me, I don’t find them constructive or based in reality (Michelle Obama?).

If one is serious about this manipulated crisis, let’s evaluate the 3 weeks of evidence calling for Biden to step down. One debate and proprietary polling have not convinced me this is anything more than a PR campaign that benefits RWNJs — not democrats. Something is very wrong and I don’t think it’s Joe Biden.

Ocelot II

(123,947 posts)
35. As long as she's just hypothetical - which she will always be, since she's made it clear
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:32 PM
Jul 2024

many times that she has absolutely no interest in running for any public office - she will poll well. If she were to change her mind and actually do it, those numbers would drop dramatically as soon as the MAGA smears started. But yeah, she's the sparkly unicorn du jour, like Oprah once was, and even that reprobate Michael Avenatti. DU was in love with that dirtbag for a little while.

manicdem

(519 posts)
38. She wouldn't want VP
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 06:45 PM
Jul 2024

Michelle doesn't seem the type to be a VP or serve in Kamala's shadow. She's a strong leader. If she was interested in running that is.

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