The Stay In Joe Donors vs the Drop Out Joe Donors. Guess Who Is Running the Chicago DNC?

[ancianita]

Last edited Sat Jul 20, 2024, 02:08 PM - Edit history (2)

Now you know why Joe Biden will win the nomination.

Stay In Joe Megadonors for Biden with 7 figure donations -- those with 6 are six figure donors
Haim Saban
Sam Altman 6
Michael Bloomberg
Neil Bluhm
Leslie Bluhm
Jon Greenwald
Patricia Gordon
Seth MacFarlane -6
George Soros
Michael Sonnenfeldt
Jeffrey Katzenberg
Marilyn Katzenberg
Lin-Manuel Miranda-6
Allison Janney-6
Rosario Dawson-6
Wendell Pierce-6
Michael Skloff-6
Edward Snowdon-6
Sybil Robson Orr-6
Jacki Cisneros-6
Steven Spielberg
Kate Capshaw
Casey Wasserman
Peter Lowy
Ellen Bronfman Hauptman
Marcy Carsey
Martha Karsh
Eli Reinhard
Eric Schmidt
Alex Karp
Shery Sandberg
Tom Bernthal
Jim Somons
Liz Simons
Mark Heising
Henry & Marsha Laufer
Stephen & Susan Mande
Seth Klarman
Deborah Simon
Mel Simon
Avram Glazer
Jonathan Lavine
Joshua & Anita Bekenstein
Bob Goodman & wife Jayne Lipman
Robert & Amy Stavis
Michael & Cari Sacks
Amy Glodman Fowler
Daniel Tishman
And dozens more

+ 227 Stay In Joe Congress People

VS.

Drop Out Joe Megadonors
Red Hastings
Abigail Disney
Barry Diller
Damon Lindelof
Gideon Stein
Christy Walson
Tom Strickler

+ 33 Drop Out Joe Congress People

Peter Welch
Martin Heinrich
Jon Tester
Adam Schiff
Raul Grijalva
Seth Moulton
Mike Quigley
Angie Craig
Adam Smith
Mikie Sherrill
Pat Ryan
Earl Blumenauer
Hillary Scholten
Brad Schneider
Ed Case
Greg Stanton
Jim Himes
Scott Peters
Eric Sorensen of
Marie Gluesenkamp Perez
Mike Levin
Brittany Pettersen
Jim Costa
Sean Casten
Jared Huffman
Marc Veasey
Chuy Garcia
Mark Pocan o
Greg Landsman
Zoe Lofgren
Jamie Raskin
Michael Bennet
Sherrod Brown

EDIT:
See BumRushDaShow's post #63 and #86.

Now you know that Joe knows the MATH.

[regnaD kciN]

1. I don't think this was your intention...

…but the way you presented it gave the impression that “Joe Biden will win because the cabal of rich Jewish financiers and elitists want him.” I don’t think that’s what you meant to say, but it comes across that way.

[ancianita]

4. Of course not.

Your impression is all on you. I'm listing the list of committed AMERICAN megadonors who want to beat the felon.

[SharonClark]

7. You probably didn't say it but haven't many

“Biden stay” supporters accused such donors as being rich elitists who steal their votes and who want trump elected because they’ll profit by it?

So maybe the lesson is donors should be applauded if they support what you want and evil doers if they don’t.

[ancianita]

9. Do we want donors who profit from a sustained democracy? Or do we want donors who profit from Project 2025?

One would think Democrats applaud the former, right?

[SharonClark]

20. Are you saying that Democrats that believe

Biden should not be the nominee are supporters of Project 2025 and are against democracy? That is quite an accusation.

It seems some people are incredibly invested in Biden’s future and feel betrayed that anyone could have a different point of view. Others may believe Biden has been a very good president but is no longer able to carry the message and defeat trump.

Neither opinion should lead to accusations that the “other side” hates democracy or is in it for personal profit or wants trump to win.

We’re Democrats, not cult members like the GQP. We shouldn’t throw each other under the bus.

[ancianita]

23. I'm saying

that those who align with donors who want Joe to drop out are mistaken. Reasonable people can reasonably disagree.

As for the rest, don't try to tell me what I mean with words like "other side," "personal profit," "accusations," "hates democracy" or "we shouldn't throw each other under the bus."

If you want to turn my point about Joe's likely win and electability into something else, that's on you.

Neither opinion should lead to accusations that the “other side” hates democracy or is in it for personal profit or wants trump to win.

We’re Democrats, not cult members like the GQP. We shouldn’t throw each other under the bus.

Tell that to the Drop Out Joe bunch, whatever their motives and thinking.

If you want Joe Biden to win a second term, maybe call a congress person from your state or district if you happen to see them on the Drop Out Joe list?

https://www.house.gov/representatives

https://www.senate.gov/senators/

[MangoMoose]

72. Interesting... POTUS is OLD

So Abigail Disney wants him gone and in essence will help the fascists. GOOD TO KNOW.

"Disney heiress Abigail Disney ripped her great-uncle Walt Disney for being “fascist” and stoking anti-Semitism and racism when he ran the company he co-founded with her grandfather Roy O. Disney."

“He bordered on rabid fascism,” the 62-year-old heiress said of Walt Disney on Marc Maron’s “WTF” podcast last week."

From October 2022 incase you're llooking for the PODCAST above.

[Tweedy]

38. Actually this whole exercise just feels rude

I don’t think anyone means it that way; nonetheless, it most assuredly isn’t going high.
I understand that democrats have their chicken little season, but the clock is ticking.

The Democratic Party isn’t going to suddenly begin disenfranchising its voters either. It just isn’t going to happen.

Put your elbow to the metal and start selling Joe. He has done and is doing a terrific job.

If Mr Trump had President Biden’s record he wouldn’t need to lie all the day long. Although it is true Mr. Trump would likely lie anyway since he certainly appears pathological.

[stopdiggin]

67. are YOU saying that transparency (bringing these names forward) is

somehow unhelpful to the democratic process?
If someone is putting there money in places that I have vehement disagreement with - particularly in the political realm - I shouldn't be informed and apprised .. ?

Whew ...
Let me get my head fastened back on ...

[Farmer-Rick]

53. Or.....

Maybe the lesson is donors should be applauded if they support what the people have voted for and evil doers if they don’t. I mean we are still a democracy.

[ancianita]

5. Ah, I now see what you mean. Thank you.

I inadvertently put in Jewish because one of my sources was Haaretz. Sorry.

But they're still American. Jewish is totally beside the point.

[Hekate]

6. Cabal? They're not a cabal when they're on OUR side, surely...

I’m inclined to say a big thank you to the generous donors on the side of democracy.

Thanks to the SCOTUS’ dark-money decision, there is no way a presidential candidate can actually win without these kinds of donors. Remember where the blame really lies.

[GoreWon2000]

108. It's a mostly privileged white, anglo male cabal

who's trying to take our votes for Joe away and they need to be loudly called out for their anti-democracy behavior. They're acting like the GOP SCOTUS who took away our votes in 2000!

[JoseBalow]

42. "We see things as we are, not as they are." - Leo Rosten

[W_HAMILTON]

94. WTF? No it doesn't.

If that's how it comes off to you, that says more about you than what the OP posted...

I, for one, appreciate having a list of pro-Biden politicians and donors in one place -- and seeing how much they dwarf those anti-Biden backstabbers.

[GoreWon2000]

109. A good list to primary Congressional dem Joe backstabbers in 2026!

[GoreWon2000]

107. I didn't get that impression at all!

I certainly didn't pay any attention to people's religious beliefs when I read the posted donors list. Besides, I think their religious beliefs are their business and not at issue in the anti-democracy attack on Joe and our votes. I find it very reassuring that the overwhelming majority of campaign donors are sticking with the Biden-Harris ticket. The pro GOP media is giving the impression that it's a massive number of donors that want Joe to drop out which is clearly NOT true. It's also an overwhelming majority of Congressional dems who are also supporting the Biden-Harris ticket as are we the people.

[GPV]

2. So hepful to see it laid out like this. You've done the job for the news media.

[SharonClark]

3. Who?

[ret5hd]

8. those with lots more money/power than you or i...

but still only one vote each.

[ancianita]

11. EXACTLY. And

this is their power/money pro-people way to make the popular vote count instead of being nullified. They love their children and want the best future for them. I and my children can live with that. At least until Citizens United is rescinded.

[soandso]

10. Edward Snowdon-6 ???

Who is that? Is that supposed to be Snowden - the Snowden?

[ancianita]

12. He's a producer. Not Snowden.

[soandso]

14. Thanks for clarifying

I thought that was awfully weird!

[ancianita]

16. Me, too! I did a double take while reading, then saw the rest of the sentence. lol

[MagickMuffin]

17. What does Snowdon produce?

He isn’t in the IMDb that I could find.

Just curious who this mysterious man is!

[ancianita]

21. Hold on. Lemme go back and look.

Ah. Here. He's on Broadway, so that's why IMDB wouldn't show him.

Broadway producer Edward Snowdon, who gave $125,000;

https://deadline.com/2023/07/joe-biden-2024-campaign-fundraising-jeffrey-katzenberg-1235439267/

[MagickMuffin]

27. Edward Snowdon has his own foundation

Thx for introducing me to someone I’ve never heard of before, that I know of!




https://fconline.foundationcenter.org/fdo-grantmaker-profile/?key=SNOW015#:~:text=popularly%20known%20as%20Ted%20Snowdon,NY%20%2D%20Founded%20by%20Edward%20W.

[ancianita]

28. Cool.

And seriously, we can't possibly know every last megadonor, given SuperPACs and dark money. But at least some.

[LeftInTX]

18. Oh...because I would take him for a bitcoin guy. The crypto people are the one's leading the HIGH RISK exodus

Keep in mind crypto is high risk and that is why I put high risk in caps!!!

[Cha]

64. Got it.. TY. Ironic!

[MagickMuffin]

13. There is a Edward Snowdon listed twice

I googled Edward Snowdon and nothing except Edward Snowden showed up.


Did you create this list or is there a link?


Looks like there are still sane people wanting to protect Democracy!

[ancianita]

15. I created this list from several sources.

If you want I can go back through my browser history and post them. But right now I wanted to drill down to the real point to fellow Democrats.

I'll eliminate the duplicate Snowdon. Thanks. I always appreciate editing advice. It seems that no matter how many times I proofread my posts, I'm constantly correcting them. In this case I'd gathered the info for an hour or two (I know the time cuz I went through two Die Hard movies in the background) and felt rushed to damp down the Friday FUD dump that corporate and F'n MSNBC are shoving at us.

[MagickMuffin]

19. That's a lot of research

🔥🤯

[Indykatie]

37. Who is the Edward Snowdon Shown on the List of Donors? I Googled Him But Came up Blank.

[ancianita]

41. See post 21

[LeftInTX]

22. I don't understand. I don't believe any are pledged delegates.

Congress are usually super-delegates. (They vote after the pledged delegates)
Maybe some of those donors are delegates, but I have no idea how to determine this.

I really can't picture Steven Spielberg tramping around a precinct caucus/county/state convention, but then I'm in Texas!

[ancianita]

25. I don't think this is about what you think.

This was my attempt to dissuade folks from thinking that corporate media news about "donors forcing Biden to drop out" is in any way accurate.

If you want to break the list down to superdelegates, etc., that's something I haven't read about.

Katzenberg and Spielberg are, of course, megadonors who are running the narrative framing for the Chicago Democratic National Convention for four days. One would think they will do their best to make Joe Biden superhero enough that even superdelegates might be persuaded to vote for him on the first round, along with the 90% of delegates already pledged to Joe.

[BigmanPigman]

24. Thank goodness a list to help

me verify and organize my calls to them at their offices. I had 29 (Dems in both House and Senate) about an hour ago. I have to keep adding to it except for Jeffries.

[ancianita]

26. YW, and as you know, corporate hype is trying to keep the party division fluid and ongoing. So the Drop Out list might

grow. Media and donor pressure stays relentless for the next 2-3 weeks.
But so are the remaining 230 who stand with Jeffries and Schumer who are ridin' with Biden.

[lees1975]

33. It's like they are timing their press releases, knowing the media is going to jump on every one of them.

Like someone is in the background and as soon as some of the furor dies down, ding! Here goes another, someone no one really knows and is of no real influence but tey get their media box on television.

[ancianita]

40. Almost like some kind of corporate media propaganda drip.

It's like toxic FUD sludge. A kind of Bannon "flood the zone with s**t" strategy.

[BigmanPigman]

49. Actually I just compiled all my lists

with the names on this list and the totals are higher.

32 Dems in the House and Senate (26 House, 6 Senate)

I'm calling Senator Coons to thank him for his support, too.

[ancianita]

52. Cool. Which congress people did I miss?

[BigmanPigman]

68. So far....

Welsh (VT)
Heinrich (NM)
Tester (VT)
Murray (WA)
Bennett (CO)
Brown (OH)

I'm not using a computer, I am writing it on loose leaf paper and I cross reference. This is another one of my "projects" as an activist. It takes time but I am angry and anger energizes people.

I'm hoping to get more details about the National Women's March on Sat., Nov., 2nd. That should be a big plus for GOTV. Women are super mad.

[BumRushDaShow]

88. "I'm not using a computer, I am writing it on loose leaf paper"

I use stickies!

[BigmanPigman]

95. I'm old school

Or should I say just "old" and I have stickies papering my whole house. As a visual person it saves me time.

[moniss]

100. Bless you and know that I am

one who has spiral notebooks stacked to the eaves with research, musings, lyrics etc. and I to this day read books that I actually hold in my hands while sitting in my comfortable chair. Although I use computers etc. they do not have a sensory feedback for me like seeing quality printing on good paper stock and bound well. I buy hardcover whenever I can. I buy old and rare.

When I have my old books in my hands I am transported to another place. I have recently gotten some books of rare photos of Warhol and friends during the Factory days and before. They came to me from Italy. I note sadly that here on DU there is not a forum for the general subject of books. There are forums for genres of literature etc. but not for just the general subject of books, printing, the beauty of high quality printing/bookbinding etc.

[BigmanPigman]

101. I like Warhol, too.

He walked his dachshund past my apt at Union Sq in NYC in 1979 when I attended art school there.
He started out as a shoe illustrator, I studied fashion illustration so I knew of his early work. Who were in the Italian Factory people? Gerard Malanga? Joe Dellesandro came later I believe.

[moniss]

102. The photos

were taken by Larry Fink who had been given a few days to hang around Warhol and company in 1966. The access had been granted because the photos were supposed to be in the second issue of the magazine "East Side Review". But alas the first issue was the only issue due to fights, literally, between the main people. But what a first issue it must have been because it had contributions from Burroughs, Mailer, LeRoi Jones, Ginsberg, Corso and some others. It was published to be a 6 times yearly magazine if it had survived.

But since the second issue never came to be the pictures were never used and the archive also contained other pictures of the time that Fink had taken. Given everything going on at the time things were moving fast in a cultural/arts sense and Larry tossed the archive aside and they were finally discovered in a trunk in 2016. Fink was never a big fan of Warhol and was more a "communist" looking at the upheaval. So the photos contain beautiful black and white shots of NYC and DC from that period.

Larry passed away last year but in 2016 his agent had come across this archive and convinced Fink to publish them. Fink insisted that, despite the book title, that it not be just the Warhol photos but the others as well. So we get pictures of Warhol, Lou Reed, John Cale, Gerard, Edie and the others along with never before seen photos of some of the marches in NYC and in DC. Some of the street scenes and skylines. Here is one of the shots.

[BumRushDaShow]

104. I think at least half of DU is "old"

But Orson Welles knows how we are!!!

[Blue_Roses]

92. This!

And yes we are mad!

[soldierant]

70. Michael Bennet and Jamie Raskin that I know of

but it's impossible to keep up

[ancianita]

73. Thanks.

Yep, the next three weeks of donor/press pressure will tell us more about congress people.

We need to keep calling them for the next three weeks.

[soldierant]

76. Bennet is my Senator and I did write him a letter.

I was disappointed but not incredulous.

But Jamie Raskin - that one hit me hard.

[BigmanPigman]

75. Damn!!!

With Raskin that makes 27 House Dems and 6 Dem senators and a total of 33 in both the House and Senate.

[ancianita]

90. And??

That's 33 out of 265 -- 12 PERCENT.

88% of congress people are with the pledged delegates.

Corporate media drip this and other toxic distortions, like saying the country's split half and half and this is a close race.

[BigmanPigman]

93. Bingo!

[BannonsLiver]

29. Probably won't matter much

If Biden is not the guy my guess is there will be a consensus candidate well before the convention, most likely Harris.

People have said there will be a brokered convention or there will be an attempt to supplant Harris, but I think if Biden were to agree to leave it would be on the condition that it’s Harris. He is under siege but still has cards to play and will almost certainly play them.

[Tweedy]

44. Do you know democrats?

President Biden isn’t going anywhere.

The idea that democrats could agree on a replacement quickly made me giggle. We did agree on a nominee already. His name is Joe Biden. Most of the people pushing this gop dream scenario do so, no doubt, with good faith. Yet, they also push this absurdity with little forethought and no planning. They have no consensus. That is patently obvious. Chicken little season has arrived.

Remember the Democratic Party is like herding cats. Proceed accordingly. I suspect there are Iago’s whispering ugliness in quite a few Democratic ears too.

Spellcheck was determined to remake Iago into Idaho. Go figure?

[BannonsLiver]

46. Giggle away

[Tweedy]

99. It is cosmically funny in a horrible this moment kind of way

To function in a world where some democrats seem intent on living in the alternative facts the gop has invented.

We have been living inside this kleptocratic framing for quite sometime now. It is bizarro.

We have an excellent president who is doing an excellent job. The republicans can lie about that all day long but it does not change the facts. Apparently, the lies give some sane folks the heebie jeebies.

President Biden will win unless we Rosa Luxembourg our way to losing. The republicans should be so lucky to have these successes!!

As an unrelated aside, the tech bros do need to live on their enormous incomes. Nobody guaranteed them a lifetime living on loans at zero interest. Grow a pair. This is a fantastic economy and they know it.

[FreddyWhite]

58. AOC says those who want Biden out don't want Harris either

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219189400

[relayerbob]

65. Read AOC's comments

They don't want just Biden out, they want Harris out also. Probably more so, since she's likely to be less motivated to give them tax breaks, anti-trust exceptions, etc.

And no one except Harris will be acceptable to a VERY large part of the party. Certainly not some white, rich oligarch that they prop up (Bloomberg would be my first guess).

[BannonsLiver]

69. Ive read them.

[ReadytoRetire]

30. 230 vs 30, yet...

DEM CONGRESSMEN CALL FOR BIDEN TO DROP OUT!!!!!

No wonder the media likes this meme: it makes their writing and editing jobs so easy. Hell, even I can do it!

And no, I don't agree with the sentiment.

P.S. That list must have been a pain to research. Good job!

[Cha]

31. Wow.. where did you get this, ancianita?!

Edward Snowden? I had read Spielberg dropped out. Glad that’s not true.

TY!!💙🌊🇺🇸🕯️🕊️🌊🌈

[ancianita]

43. A few sources, certainly not from msm papers.

Snowdon. See post 21.

[58Sunliner]

32. Don't forget Tom Strickler in the extortion group.

[ancianita]

45. Thanks! I'll add him.

[PortTack]

34. Thx very encouraging ...great post

[iluvtennis]

35. Thanks for this post - I needed something to lift my spitits after these weeks of Biden bashing.

[malthaussen]

36. You should add Nancy Pelosi to your "drop out Joe" Congress crew.

She was disingenuous about it last week, but now she's come right out and said it.

-- Mal

[ancianita]

47. I hear you.

But I believe her when she said she'd back whatever Joe decides, so she's staying with the majority congress people. She and Schumer did a great deal with Joe, and I'm loathe to even think they'd distrust his judgment. We'll see. All this is still fluid.

I'm thinking the noise will be a tornado siren by the time the Chicago DNC starts. We just have to have a clearer map than corporate print and tv media are giving us.

[valleyrogue]

96. When? She hasn't.

[PatSeg]

39. Thank you for that

The "Stay In Joe Megadonors" list is very impressive!

[captain queeg]

48. You got a lot more scrutiny than I'd expect, big thank you. The stays way outnumber the goes.

But at least my $10’shows up the same as their x1000 donations and I really appreciate them for putting in the big money since Trump is getting millions from people like Musk. Not everyone that has a lot of money would be classified as an oligarch. Though I’m a little surprised not to see Tom Hanks on the list.

[ancianita]

50. Yeah, I tend to.

A lot of people not on the list go through SuperPACs and so even though Tom Hanks isn't on the list, he's on some list I couldn't access. I'm not a sleuth like others here. But that's my guess.

[captain queeg]

51. Yeah I'd bet he is.

[crimycarny]

54. Nice!

Thanks so much for posting this list.

[rzemanfl]

55. This is the most heartening thing I have seen all day.

The only other thing that was cheering me up was reading "post removed" a few times.

[ancianita]

56. Good. That's the point. I was so angry when I saw today's MSNBC Deadline Whitehouse that I had to channel it

to find out if the bullshit I watched had any basis in fact. Turns out it doesn't. I luv to see "post removed", too.

[Beck23]

57. Plus small donors have increased

I just watched a video on Russian psyc war techniques and this whole Joe too old thing has Russian info war written all over it. It's an attempt to demoralize Democrats so just calm down, take care of yourself, and don't fall for it.

[ancianita]

80. Yes. A link with numbers for that would do DU some good, so maybe you could let us know more?

You're so right about Russian psyops. It's the very thing the felon was born for.

And now we are in it. We must not lose heart. We must arm up with the math and facts.

[Sogo]

59. You left Clooney off the Drop Out Donors

And Rob Reiner, and James Carville.

Those are high profile ones that came to mind, because I was so disappointed when they announced....

Edited to add:

BTW, thank you very much for this. It's reassuring.

[relayerbob]

60. Add this asshole to your list

barbaraj.sobel 7h
This is ridiculous and also
unacceptable. That he admits so
freely to this quid pro quo to the
NYT shows how privileged he is.

Tom Strickler, a founder of the Hollywood talent
agency WME, said he had recently met in Los
Angeles with Senator Martin Heinrich,
Democrat of New Mexico.

"If you don't publicly call for Biden to step
aside," Mr. Strickler said he told Mr. Heinrich's
team on Thursday morning, "you are not getting
a dime from me."

Mr. Strickler said that he had also been planning
to give the maximum legal amount in August to
each of the seven most vulnerable Democratic
Senate candidates, but that as of now, he would
not be supporting them because they have not
broken with Mr. Biden.

"It's a message that I've encouraged my friends
to send as well," he said. "If you back Biden, you
will lose our support. Over and out."

[Maggiemayhem]

81. Used to call that blackmail

[TommyT139]

98. Depends when the check gets cut...

If it's after they comply, the Supreme Court calls it a gratuity!

[relayerbob]

114. 15% tip are customary

[GoreWon2000]

110. Is this not bribery, extortion by Strickland?

[relayerbob]

113. That would definitely be my interpretation

[peggysue2]

61. I must say . . .

This puts a whole different slant on things. If you were to believe the media noise, the entire mega-donor base was in revolt and insisting President Biden step aside.

WTF!

Six in the Drop-Out category with all the rest still in!

We've really been played with a deliberate attempt to break our coalition. And spirit to defeat Agent Orange and his Flying Monkey Brigade.

Thank you for this, ancianita!

[Cha]

116. REC.. Great post, PegguSue.. Thank You!

[Silver Gaia]

62. Thank you for doing all that research!

What a great idea, too. This really does help put things in perspective, and that was much needed!

I certainly needed this!

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

[BumRushDaShow]

63. **MATH**

It's not just a subject in school.

I know the past week I have posted several times that there are -

265 (D) and (I) who caucus with Dems members in Congress (214 House + 51 Senate)

I was GENEROUS by saying - assume "20" Democrats in the House (at the time there was something like 11) and "10" Democrats in the Senate (at the time I think there was 1 or 2 on the record) who fell off the bandwagon

THAT MEANS

30 / 265 = 0.11 = 11%

100% - 11% = 89%

The subversive yellow journalists want you to think that "11%" is MORE THAN "89%.

If one wants to add the most recent - Sherrod Brown to the list, here is the MATH -

31 / 265 = 0.12 = 12%

100% - 12% = 88%

DON'T FALL FOR THE OKIE DOKE.

[ancianita]

71. AMEN, SISTA!

Thanks for the percentages! Reality maps much clearer with math. And why the propagandists ignore all things math.

[BumRushDaShow]

86. They are doing the psycho "drip drip drip" crap to make it seem worse than it is

It's their version of what they think is "death by 1000 cuts" but in this case, the don't have "1000" things to cut with, so they get their creative teams out to introduce this alternate reality show drama that will culminate into some finale.

Right now we are at their manufactured "cliff-hanger" weekend deadline, after their previous deadlines were blown past.

And as a note, since it might come up because they want to generate "drama" - the Delegate Rules are on the DNC page but are better summarized here - https://ballotpedia.org/Democratic_delegate_rules,_2024

Because of the mess of 2016, the DNC changed how they handle delegates. From the link -

Following the 2016 presidential election, the Unity Reform Commission was formed to revise the Democratic nominating process, including reducing the number and power of automatic delegates.[15][16][17] At the conclusion of the party's national convention on August 25, 2018, officials voted to adopt a measure banning automatic delegates from voting on the first ballot at a contested national convention.

-ALSO-

In 2024, there are an estimated 4,672 delegates: 3,933 pledged delegates and 739 automatic delegates—more commonly known as superdelegates.[2][3]

To win the Democratic nomination, a presidential candidate needs to receive support from a majority of the pledged delegates on the first ballot: an estimated 1,968 pledged delegates.[4][2][3]

The Rules indicate that the 1st round of balloting are the PLEDGED delegates and THEY are the ONLY ones who vote for that round. Should a candidate get a majority on that first round, then THAT IS IT.

Normally ALL of those elected officials including the ones on your list, are considered "Automatic Delegates" (a/k/a "Super Delegates" ) and they don't vote at all unless there is a 2nd round (or more) of balloting.

From the link -

Both parties also have delegates who are not bound to a particular candidate at the convention. The Republican Party has a total of 104 unbound delegates, and the Democratic Party has a total of 739 unbound delegates. Democratic unbound delegates can only vote if a convention proceeds past the first round of voting.

So the idea of a "brokered convention" would require that over 1900 out of the over 3900 "already-pledged delegates" would have to decide to break their pledges and force a 2nd ballot, so the Super Delegates can weigh in, and the odds of that happening are slim to none (although I suppose someone could try to pour money in to attempt to bribe).

[ancianita]

89. Thank you. I never got to convention rules. SO thankful that you've broken it down.

BRDS, this needs to be an OP. Onward with the facts and MATH!

[BumRushDaShow]

91. I remember all the mess in 2016 with Brazile and the accusations flying

about the "super delegates" and after that, the DNC made some major changes to "reduce their power".

The super delegates ARE all of those federal elected officials (and I think include those like (D) governors, mayors, and state party leaders, etc.).

And upon typing the above - I just realized that the "change" MIGHT be why you see these elected officials jumping up and down "publicly". It's perhaps what they would have done during any balloting at a convention.

In the past, they wielded a lot of "power" within the Delegate process, able to sway the nomination to one candidate or another.

Now they have been all but mooted unless you have multiple strong candidates (like when there is no incumbent), which could force a 2nd ballot, thus allowing them to finally weigh in.

[ancianita]

97. I'd no idea of the internal party issues then, we were all so upset about the electoral loss. That history makes sense

of some of these folks But Raskin and Schiff ... ? Thanks for your thoughts on how the math likely works by convention time.

Overall, I'm grateful for changes that reduced superdelegate powers.

[karin_sj]

66. Thank you for posting this

It gave me some much needed hope.

[moonscape]

74. Edward Snowdon? Who is he?

I did a double-take but the ES we know is Snowden, plus a 6-figure Biden donor to stay in?

[ancianita]

77. Again. See post 21

[moonscape]

79. Thanks!

[liberalmuse]

78. Lobbyist donation link from Open Secrets.

https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/top-recipients

[Arabela]

82. Other than Joe's tweets, this is the best thing I've read today! Just the encouragement I needed. Thanks for posting!

[elleng]

83. Thanks for the numbers (and names;)

Good to know who''s who.

[ancianita]

84. We need them. We need to keep up the calls, let 'em know that whatever their thinking, it's wrong for

the party and the country, that they would regret what they did in 2024 for the rest of their lives.

[oasis]

85. Dems in the know send their dough to Joe!

Thanks Encinitas for the uplifting report.

[Butterflylady]

87. Hang in there Joe, we got your back,

A big thank you goes to ancianita.

[jpug]

103. And the voices of millions of

African American women who are the bedrock for Joe don't make your list.

Just because they aren't 6 figure or 7 figure.

When exactly did we become elitists?

[ancianita]

105. You're entirely missing the point.

First, the OP is intended to smash the propaganda wall that donors are leaving Joe, that the majority of elected Democrats are leaving Joe.

Second, you ignore the MATH of the delegates that include African American women
-- and who override the media FUD lies perpetrated about replacing Joe on the ticket, and
-- will override all electeds machinations to replace Joe.

You forget what bedrock is. Bedrock, as the base of a foundation, is not seen. That does NOT mean that the house itself doesn't see itself as solid anywhere else or by any other means.

The elites, as you call them, are power seekers but the true power of the party lies in the PEOPLE and the PLEDGED DELEGATES.

Listen to Biden.
In every speech -- from church to NAACP convention -- he says "I am where I am because of YOU. Not me. YOU."

Chicago is where the bedrock steadies the house that self-styled power "elites" (who are really just noise for their donors) only occupy.

Joe knows the math. He knows how the house is built.

[jpug]

115. Or ...

Here's another way to smash the propaganda wall.

How about we all stop pushing the narrative that these big money elites are important.

That's what Joe told us to do.

Looks like some didn't get the message.

[ancianita]

117. I've asked elsewhere just who the "elites" are. No answer. They are a corporate 'fiction' to amplify the anti-Biden

minority. There is plenty of Big Money behind the Democrats. If money defines elites, then they're being ignored by right wing media's owners.

As BRDS pointed out upthread, Joe knows the primary math on the ground. If they don't know the pro-Biden delegate and congressional math, they misplace trust in media narrative -- the wall of polls, "people familiar withe matter," doctrine factories, etc.-- that amount to the Okey Doke.

[GoreWon2000]

112. Point was most top campaign donors supporting Biden-Harris!

The OP's point was to show that most of the top campaign donors are supporting the Biden-Harris ticket as a counter to the pro GOP narrative that the big donors are abandoning the Biden-Harris ticket. The math shows that it's NOT true. No one is disputing that women and in particular black women have been and now are the heart and sole of the Democratic party.

[Deuxcents]

106. Thank you for all your research and follow ups as things change by the hour, it seems.

Hoping more of the Don’t Quit donors come forward as time is of the essence now. 🙏

[ancianita]

118. Absolutely. We have to have accurate maps, not "news."

Bottom line is that your hope is based on fact: Joe has the numbers going into Chicago no matter what megadonors or congress people do to foment more fear and complication.

Their fear noise makes the Democratic project of FDR harder than it has to be.

[Nimble_Idea]

111. source?

[ancianita]

119. For what. The OP?

It's a compilation of sources.