Serious question here about President Biden and the upcoming election.

[William769]

When evaluating a politician, it's important to look at their accomplishments over time, rather than focusing on one bad debate. For example, President Biden has a long history of accomplishments, including his work on the Violence Against Women Act.

Thoughts?

[Emile]

1. That's why we voted for him in the primary.

[brer cat]

2. Of course. His debate was a bummer, but compared with

all that he has accomplished, it is just a minor blip. Someone decided to take advantage of that to smear him, and the pile-on began.

[William769]

4. And people that seem not to be able to think for themselves

Have taken it Hook, line & sinker.

[brer cat]

6. Sad as well as infuriating.

I am not going to get caught up trying to divine motives.

[sheshe2]

22. Well.

‘Something Is Rotten in the State of Denmark’

That is all.

Oh, one more thing.
Biden Harris 2024

[Walleye]

3. Zero scandals and corruption

[TwilightZone]

5. Yes and no.

Yes, prior records and accomplishments are important, but people change over time, not just physically and mentally, but also politically. So, it's also important to look at the present-day version for context.

Personally, I don't think one debate should end a political career and I support the president staying in the race, but I'm also not privy to private conversations between the president and his staff, family, and colleagues. That's why I've been a bit wary about making absolute statements. I think there's information that we're not aware of. Whether it's potentially disqualifying, I can't say.

[William769]

8. How has President Biden changed over time politically speaking.

I can make an absolute statment because President Biden has.

[TwilightZone]

16. That part of my statement was meant generically.

It was in response to the portion of your statement about evaluating a politician. I understand that it was about President Biden, but my thoughts on the matter could apply to any politician.

Reagan, for example. Second-term Reagan was a pale imitation of the original, and many thought he wasn't fit to serve. Many of us thought he was never fit to serve, but that's another conversation.

With Reagan, signs were everywhere. With President Biden, the discussions mostly revolve around the one debate, though some people also fixate on times that he misspeaks. I find the latter a little specious, because a) most people misspeak, many quite often, and b) misstatements have always kind of been his thing, and it generally made him look more like a real person.

[William769]

18. You are right about this reagan was never fit to serve.

Was President wilson fit to serve his 2nd term? Didn't really matter, our Government kept on churning, as I am sure it would if anything were to happen to President Biden. We have a line of succession for a reason.

I apologize to you if it sounds like I'm ranting, I just get really pissed off when people make much ado about nothing.

[greatauntoftriplets]

7. He's been doing a great job, which is what makes this so ridiculous.

The enemy is drumpf, not President Biden. This all pisses me off.

[William769]

10. It has me seeing red and it has since the day after the debate.

[greatauntoftriplets]

14. Same here.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

9. I agree. But can he win? Things are looking very dire.

[William769]

11. Of course he can win!

But people saying like like "Things are looking very dire." Doesn't help.

[lees1975]

17. Dire? Only from a media persective.

He's running against a guy who has no record of achieving anything political, had the worst four year presidency in history, ran up the deficit to alarming levels with tax cuts that did nothing except spur inflaation, and is likely going to be in prison when the election rolls around.

If you think one of those polls is an accurate predictor of where the electorate will be on election day, you've been duped. I doubt that much of the data in those polls is real, most of it is electronic. And heaviily manipulated.

This is an attack, from the other side, with Russian help. It looks and smells like it.

[Renew Deal]

12. From what I've seen, this was in the works prior to the debate

The debate was used as an excuse.

Jon Favreau, Axelrod, and Clooney all said that they had concerns after the fundraiser. They pounced after the debate.

[William769]

13. Your sig line says it all.

[Renew Deal]

15. That's been there since the night of one of Obama's speeches.

I think it was a SOTU in his first term.

Edit: I checked. It was 2010

[mcar]

19. Best President of my 65 year lifetime

[William769]

20. I can't pick a favorite. I like them all in my in my 60 year lifetime.

My favorite though was before me but he always was and always will be my favorite, FDR.

[we can do it]

21. That doesn't seem to matter, it doesn't produce clicks and provide more rights for those with more $$$$.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

23. I agree that accomplishments are more important than one debate