Things are going to get ugly if Democrats lose the WH in November.

[Renew Deal]

If Biden loses, one faction will say that it happened because people tried to drive Biden out and the other will say that they were right.

If another Dem loses, one faction will say that we should worship at the altar of Lichtman and should have held onto a winner, while the other says that Biden hung on too long.

If Biden wins, things will calm down for a couple years until a rather unpleasant primary takes place in 2028.

If another Dem wins, things might get swept under the rug for a while because there won't be a competitive primary in 2028.

I'm not saying that these considerations should impact how 2024 plays out. Just predicting the future.

[Skittles]

1. that is the LEAST of the worries

FASCISM is what WINS

[Mister Ed]

13. But it will make for fascinating discussions in the gulag.

"We must hang together, or we shall surely hang separately."

-- Benjamin Franklin

[Initech]

15. If Project 2025 is enacted, there won't be a 2028 or 2032 election.

And seriously, if something happens to Trump, mark my words:

VANCE. WILL. NOT. LEAVE. OFFICE. PERIOD.

He'd declare himself dictator for life, and he'd have the backing of Fox News and the Heritage Foundation to do so, aided by the ultra corrupt SCOTUS.

That would be a literal nightmare scenario.

[Walleye]

2. Not very uplifting, what's your point?

[Renew Deal]

5. That is the point.

Unfortunately

[LymphocyteLover]

3. if a Dem doesn't take the presidency and we lose the senate, our democracy is toast

normal politics like what you are discussion will be meaningless

Of course the planet will have so many other problems to deal with including irreversible global warming, so it really won't matter what Dems do

[LudwigPastorius]

16. The Trump cult controlling the White House, both houses of Congress, and the Supreme Court is a terrifying thought.

Trump would probably immediately declare a "national emergency" giving him unprecedented power.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240113163055/https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/01/presidential-emergency-powers/576418/

[LymphocyteLover]

18. No doubt. Certainly he would if there were any protests.

[Wuddles440]

19. He'll institute such restrictions immediately...

upon taking office. He and his fascist cabal have no intention of letting any organized resistance develop and present a threat to their movement.

[hlthe2b]

4. I predict interparty warfare to be the least of our concerns if TSF wins the WH...

Honestly... Those I know with means have already made "bug-out" plans. The rest are trying to hold onto that last bit of denial--some expressing grief for children and grandchildren--and others expressing relief that they don't HAVE children and grandchildren. sigh...

No longer hyperbole...

[LonePirate]

6. I think you're too optimistic that there will be an election in 2028 if we lose this year.

[Renew Deal]

9. There will be

I think the right turn in the US will change the US in ways that we can't imagine, but not having an election in 2028 would require a constitutional amendment or something far worse. (Something between the Purge and Handmaids Tail)

[kansasobama]

17. There will be elections but

Rigged like Russia.

[live love laugh]

7. If if if if ... So what.

[ViewObsessed]

8. Joe's got this

Big win in November! I predict a blue wave.

[Quixote1818]

10. There would be some infighting but peoples focus will quickly shift on stopping Trump from doing too much damage. nt

[we can do it]

11. Maybe we should try backing our candidate and cut the backstabbing.

[MustLoveBeagles]

14. Now there's a thought

[surfered]

12. Like Jon Stewart , we're looking at real estate in New Zealand.

Not wanting to stay in those FEMA trailers at re-education camps.

[Autumn]

20. If Democrats only hold one branch of the government in 2024 we are fucked.

We are fucked six ways to Sunday. There will be no coming back from that. 2028 won't matter.

[kansasobama]

21. If they hold one branch

Or even two, Senate and House, I guarantee they will cave. It is a 100% bet. They don't fight like GOP. You will see there will be enough defections to give Trump the win.