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demmiblue

(39,719 posts)
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:21 AM Jul 2024

People have lost their damned minds, part JFC: Aaron Sorkin suggests replacing Pres. Biden with Mitt Romney:

Aaron Sorkin published an op-ed in NYT this morning that calls on Democrats to nominate a Republican in place of Pres. Biden next month at the convention, specifically Mitt Romney. For real. Don't click on it. Don't read it. I promise you ain't missing anything.

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People have lost their damned minds, part JFC: Aaron Sorkin suggests replacing Pres. Biden with Mitt Romney: (Original Post) demmiblue Jul 2024 OP
You expect that sort of thing from the Onion. LisaL Jul 2024 #1
NYT is not nearly funny or topical enough. yardwork Jul 2024 #8
HA HA HA HA HA EarlG Jul 2024 #2
That sounds like the theme to a great new political drama ColinC Jul 2024 #3
Right, the exciting plot twist for the season finale! tanyev Jul 2024 #4
Yet another Republican woke up this morning and realized their... Hugin Jul 2024 #5
JFC is the right response. yardwork Jul 2024 #6
Brilliant idea! Why didn't we think of this? Ocelot II Jul 2024 #7
I have nothing to add; this says it all. ms liberty Jul 2024 #11
screw that, let the republicans replace Trump with Mitt eShirl Jul 2024 #9
If we just want to win Progressive dog Jul 2024 #10
The NYT is not even fit for bird cage liner anymore. FalloutShelter Jul 2024 #12
Apparently Aaron Sorkin can read displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #13
Conspiracy theory (2 of them). Full Moon last night, and of course, 5 minutes of internet notoriety. usonian Jul 2024 #14
I was waiting for something like this. Freethinker65 Jul 2024 #15
Thanks for the laugh: "JFC Edition" crim son Jul 2024 #16
"Aaron, Lawrence O'Donnell on line one - yorkster Jul 2024 #17
Sorkin cashing in over women,s dead bodies ? delisen Jul 2024 #18
I think they all need intervention. Good grief this is all a mess. Srkdqltr Jul 2024 #19
Is Paul Ryan not available? Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #20
His fictional president could silence RWers with Bible quotes nuxvomica Jul 2024 #21
Aaron huffing glue? spanone Jul 2024 #22
'Can't wait to hear Lawrence O'Donnell, Martin Sheen, and Bradley Whitford's thoughts on that (all West Wing alumns) hlthe2b Jul 2024 #23
To say Romney would be better than Trump is true, but Ocelot II Jul 2024 #25
Well...maybe PikaBlue Jul 2024 #24
Who? The guy in the magic underwear? MOMFUDSKI Jul 2024 #26
Mitt Romney has been steadfastly opposed to Trump, True Dough Jul 2024 #27
They're in the "Throw shit at the wall, GoCubsGo Jul 2024 #28
Remember - stop clicking on their bullshit. we can do it Jul 2024 #29
For the Love of God peggysue2 Jul 2024 #30
The money bro's be like two thumbs up! getagrip_already Jul 2024 #31
Sorkin is suffering from the delusion that Democrats would accept this + a lot of Republicans would highplainsdem Jul 2024 #32
While the stakes in November are existentially enormous for our democratic system of government,... LudwigPastorius Jul 2024 #33
That's dumb. Romney would lose for to big reasons. Renew Deal Jul 2024 #34
Lololol Sunsky Jul 2024 #35
Romney is a bad idea bmichaelh Jul 2024 #36
Trump is to the left of Romney on several issues radius777 Jul 2024 #37
I suggest Aaron Sorkin stop sniffing his own farts. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2024 #38
Now they want Liz Chaney Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #39

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
3. That sounds like the theme to a great new political drama
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:27 AM
Jul 2024

Perhaps Sorkin can start writing that instead of meaningless fluff interfering with actual Democratic decisions

tanyev

(49,291 posts)
4. Right, the exciting plot twist for the season finale!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:27 AM
Jul 2024

Stick to TV, Aaron.

ETA: This perfectly illustrates how current political discourse values RATINGS over GOVERNANCE.

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
5. Yet another Republican woke up this morning and realized their...
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:27 AM
Jul 2024

Party is dead. Well beyond dead.

The same thing will happen with climate change. It’s the irony of being a reactionary.

Ocelot II

(130,533 posts)
7. Brilliant idea! Why didn't we think of this?
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:28 AM
Jul 2024

Take out a solid liberal of great integrity with decades of experience in government and foreign policy and substitute a clueless plutocrat whose main, if not only, positive attributes are that he doesn't like Trump and he thinks the GOP has gone astray? Yeah, we'll get right on that.



Sorkin is a TV screenwriter, and the scenario might make an entertaining West Wing episode, but Jesus on a pogo stick, fuck me dead, and fuck the NYT even harder for publishing this.

Progressive dog

(7,602 posts)
10. If we just want to win
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:33 AM
Jul 2024

We could pick Trump. Then we'd be sure to win.
Has Sorkin gone back to drugs?

usonian

(25,314 posts)
14. Conspiracy theory (2 of them). Full Moon last night, and of course, 5 minutes of internet notoriety.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:36 AM
Jul 2024

The latter, plus $4.75, will get you a Starbucks Cafe Latte.

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
15. I was waiting for something like this.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:38 AM
Jul 2024

JFC. Biden was effectively the Romney candidate last election...you know, the qualified, experienced, man of reason to return this country to normalcy and stability. A candidate to bring this country together for common causes like increasing employment, decreasing inflation, providing infrastructure, shoring up programs Americans depend on while cutting waste. Biden STILL is that candidate!

Hahahaha. I just realized oped was written by a TV screenwriter! Yeah, that does seem like something we would see in a fictional tv series. Next OP-ED suggestions from scriptwriters of "Spin City", "Veep", "Deadwood", "Baywatch", and "SpongeBob Square Pants"?

Yeah, I am not up with current TV.

crim son

(27,552 posts)
16. Thanks for the laugh: "JFC Edition"
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:38 AM
Jul 2024

I had to cancel my NYT subscription because they publish garbage like your article.

delisen

(7,366 posts)
18. Sorkin cashing in over women,s dead bodies ?
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:45 AM
Jul 2024

This is part of the new “Me Only” movement.

nuxvomica

(14,092 posts)
21. His fictional president could silence RWers with Bible quotes
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:50 AM
Jul 2024
The West Wing was a great series but pure starry-eyed, golly-gosh fiction, like everything Sorkin writes.

hlthe2b

(113,957 posts)
23. 'Can't wait to hear Lawrence O'Donnell, Martin Sheen, and Bradley Whitford's thoughts on that (all West Wing alumns)
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:55 AM
Jul 2024

O'Donnell ought to be quite interesting, but so, too the others.


Ignoring the ridiculous nature of the premise, I can only say that at least he (Romney) is no PUTINISTA... so there is that...

Ocelot II

(130,533 posts)
25. To say Romney would be better than Trump is true, but
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 10:33 AM
Jul 2024

it's sort of like saying chronic hemorrhoids are better than cancer.

PikaBlue

(495 posts)
24. Well...maybe
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:58 AM
Jul 2024

Well, maybe if Romney were willing to travel from Utah to DC in a dog crate strapped to the roof of a station I might consider. . . Nah, who am I kidding? I'd just laugh and say, "Sucker".

 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
26. Who? The guy in the magic underwear?
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 10:37 AM
Jul 2024

lol. We are all the way through the looking glass. At least I am amused as hell.

True Dough

(26,667 posts)
27. Mitt Romney has been steadfastly opposed to Trump,
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 10:37 AM
Jul 2024

and all of the positive things I can say about the vulture capitalist stop right there. He's not fit to be mentioned in the same breath as true Democrats.

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
28. They're in the "Throw shit at the wall,
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 10:44 AM
Jul 2024

and hope something sticks" phase of their lunacy. I think Aaron Sorkin could use one of those mental competency exams they're all claiming Biden needs. So do the rest of them, for that matter.

peggysue2

(12,533 posts)
30. For the Love of God
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 11:15 AM
Jul 2024

This isn't an episode of West Wing. This isn't a fictional moment or fantasy football or any other kind of entertainment.

This is our f*cking lives and future on the line.

The threat is REAL. The damage to the country will continue and if Trump and his Flying Monkey Brigade are successful the damage will be x1000 and generational in nature.

This isn't a moment in time where you throw spaghetti at the wall hoping some noodle design emerges. It's not a creative writer's convention/competition for the best TV script, the most entertaining, the most unexpected, the one with the highest Nielson ratings.

We already know how this storyline plays out from the Dark Side. Because the MAGAts have been screaming it incessantly and Project 2025 was put into writing and made public MONTHS AGO.

And we have HISTORY as a guide. We know where this ends.

Here's a thought: We support our President, the presumptive nominee. We put our heads down, hold the line and fight like hell.

Stop the bullshit and get to work!

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
31. The money bro's be like two thumbs up!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 11:29 AM
Jul 2024

They do NOT want any part of kamela as a replacement. But they would be fine with a deeply conservative republican.

highplainsdem

(62,137 posts)
32. Sorkin is suffering from the delusion that Democrats would accept this + a lot of Republicans would
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 11:54 AM
Jul 2024

vote for Romney.

Nominating Mr. Romney would be putting our money where our mouth is: a clear and powerful demonstration that this election isn’t about what our elections are usually about it, but about stopping a deranged man from taking power. Surely Mr. Romney, who doesn’t have to be introduced to voters, would peel off enough Republican votes to win, probably by a lot. The double haters would be turned into single haters and the Nikki Haley voters would have somewhere to go, Ms. Haley having disqualified herself when she endorsed the leader of an unsuccessful attempt to overthrow the government.

Does Mr. Romney support abortion rights? No. Does he want to aggressively raise the minimum wage, bolster public education, strengthen unions, expand transgender rights and enact progressive tax reform? Probably not. But is he a cartoon thug who did nothing but watch TV while the mob he assembled beat and used Tasers on police officers? No. The choice is between Donald Trump and not-Trump, and the not-Trump candidate needs only one qualification: to win enough votes from a cross section of Americans to close off the former president’s Electoral College path back to power.

Part of the wish fulfillment of “The West Wing” was that oratory can be persuasive. So Barack Obama could come forth at the Democratic convention next month in Chicago and remind us, once again, that we’re not red states and blue states but the United States by full-throatedly endorsing his old rival. And Mr. Romney could make the case that the Democrats are putting country before party in ways that the MAGA movement will not, and announce his bipartisan cabinet picks at the convention as well.

-snip-

The writing staff would tell me I was about to jump the shark, that this is a “West Wing” fantasy that would never, ever happen. But as Bradley Whitford used to say, “Isn’t the biggest fantasy on television a mafia boss in therapy?” The Democrats need to break the glass and this is a break-glass plan, but it’s more than that. It’s a grand gesture. A sacrifice. It would put a lump in our throats.


Sheer idiocy.

LudwigPastorius

(14,724 posts)
33. While the stakes in November are existentially enormous for our democratic system of government,...
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 12:04 PM
Jul 2024

we're not THAT desperate.

Renew Deal

(85,150 posts)
34. That's dumb. Romney would lose for to big reasons.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 12:07 PM
Jul 2024

1. Democrats would stay home.
2. Romneys milquetoast style couldn’t win.

You can make a convoluted argument about VP and a unity ticket, but I don’t think voters are looking for that.

bmichaelh

(1,181 posts)
36. Romney is a bad idea
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:58 AM
Jul 2024

That would be a bad idea.

Romney was one of the many Republican senators who voted for the repeal of ACA in 2017.

ACA saved my life

I was first diagnosed with lymphoma in 1990.
I was in my second complete remission when ACA was passed in 2010 and when Trump and GOP attempted to repeal it in 2017.

Lymphoma returned in 2019.
Unfortunately, it gets more aggressive and resistant to prior therapies when it returns.
On the 5th different treatment and over the course of 3 years, did I achieve complete remission.
ACA provides me protection against lifetime limits which made a fifth treatment possible.

What is it with these opinions: They say Biden is too old; but then put forward names of men in their late 70s (Romney, Manchin, etc.)

Harris provides a great dichotomy to Trump:
Democracy vs Dictatorship
Truth vs Deception
Prosecutor vs Convict
Etc.

radius777

(3,921 posts)
37. Trump is to the left of Romney on several issues
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:23 AM
Jul 2024

like the social safety net, taxes, social issues, wars, etc. True, Romney is more law abiding and democratic, less loving of authoritarians. But he's far-right and in no way a good guy, despite opposing Trump. Romney would probably push for a national abortion ban. We all know Trump really doesn't care about the issue, just supports it to get the fundie vote.

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