This is who the Corp media is pushing for Kamala's VP

[Nimble_Idea]

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[Walleye]

1. My brother said maybe Mark Kelly because he's ready to be president and he would probably bring Arizona

[still-prayin4rain]

25. Agree with this. I think a former astronaut would do well in the swing states. nt

[Walleye]

35. Also, he's very strong on the gun issue

[ChazII]

45. Mark Kelly is from my state of Arizona

and one I would feel comfortable seeing as VP.

[musicblind]

49. We need Kelly and Warnock in the Senate.

I worry about who their replacements would be.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

55. Democratic Gov in AZ - replacement will be a Democrat

[pinkstarburst]

82. Yes, but they will have to run again in 2026 and 2028

With no guarantee they will hold the seat. It was very close when Kelly ran. While Kelly is an interesting possible choice, we need to consider senate math too. There are lots of good VP candidates that don't take away a valuable senate seat in a state we may not be able to win back.

[radius777]

102. That's the problem with Kelly. He would be great

as he'd almost guarantee us AZ and NV - but it would put that seat at risk in the long term. He's uniquely popular there, yet still his last race was still close against some Maga stiff they put up. All of the races in AZ seem to be nail biters - Hobbs barely won for gov against the psycho Lake.

[GoreWon2000]

104. I'm in AZ. and Mark Kelly did the best

among statewide candidates in 2022. He ran an amazing campaign so he certainly knows how to win. I'm partial to Kelly but there are a lot of good choices.2022 AZ results were amazing. AZ is no longer an automatic red state. It was maga GOP threats to women's reproductive rights and democracy that carried the day. A pro choice ballot initiative is on the ballot for 2024 which should also help the dems.

[brush]

109. pls, the newly appointed senator will have two years as incumbent...

a huge advantage. If he/she can't established themselves with the voters in that time it's on them, meanwhile we keep our Senate majority.

Why look for the dark cloud in the silver lining?

[radius777]

113. I don't view that as a risk worth taking.

McSally was appointed by the Repub gov (for McCain's seat) and lost twice. It's simply a difficult seat to win, for either an R or D, due to the swingy nature of the state.

[brush]

115. And for some reason you think the same thing will happen when a Dem governor...

appoints a Dem senator in AZ? That's some reasoning you've conjured up,

[pinkstarburst]

118. But why risk it?

There are better choices that also help us in swing states (Shapiro) and don't put a senate seat we barely won at risk.

[brush]

122. That's your opinion. AZ is a battleground state which is important...

and we stand a chance of gaining two US Senators from AZ with Kelly on the ticket helping Ruben Gallego in his US Senate reace against election denier Kari Lake.

That would help us keep our majority in the Senate and perhaps gain a seat.

Carry on.

[Walleye]

56. That's an excellent point

[pinkstarburst]

86. Kelly and Warnock both need to stay in the senate

this is the wrong time to be risking vulnerable seats we may not be able to win back.

[brush]

108. The Dem AZ Gov. would appoint Kelly's replacement...

thereby creating the possibilty of AZ having two Dem senators as with Kelly on the national Dem ticket, it could help Ruben Gallego defeat election denier Kari Lake in their US Senate race.

Perhaps she'll continue claiming to be the actual governor of AZ.

[pinkstarburst]

119. Kelly's replacement would have to run again in 2026 and 2028

We barely won that seat with Kelly as it is. It just seems like an unnecessary risk to potentially throw away a senate seat when there are other candidates like Shapiro who help us in swing states and wouldn't cost us a senate seat. Why risk Kelly's seat at all?

[brush]

121. Guess it hasn't occured to you that Kelly on the ticket could help candidate Reben Gallego in his hun...

the US Senate against rhe electon denier Kari Lake, which has the possibility of giving AZ, a battleground state, TWO Democratic US Senators...the one the governor would appoint to Kelly's vacated seat, and the seat Gallego could very well win against kari lake so she can go on pretending that she's the actual governor of AZ.

One has to consider all the possibilities. I know it would occur to you eventually.

Carry on.

[valleyrogue]

101. Mark Kelly might be an okay choice.

I really don't want a governor on the ticket. Democrats need all the statehouses they can get, and being a governor doesn't really prepare one for national politics the way a holder of a federal office does. Yes, I know about FDR, etc., but my opinion still stands.

[ColinC]

2. Those are all great options

[BlueInPhilly]

3. Barack Obama

Constitutionally, he can be VP as long as he wants

[Windy Apple]

44. Obama cannot be VP...

…because he is ineligible to serve as President if the president should vacate the office.

[musicblind]

50. Wasn't this brought up years ago for someone else,

and it was determined that if someone in the cabinet or speakership could not serve as president, they would simply be skipped over in the line of succession, but that they could still serve in their respective non-presidential roles?

[Retrograde]

62. Henry Kissinger

He was Nixon's Secretary of State, but because he was not a natural born citizen was no eligible to be president. He was confirmed into the cabinet post, but would have been skipped if the succession got that far down.

The Constitution states that no person who is not eligible to be president shall be elected as vice president. So that leaves Obama out

[Windy Apple]

66. It's pretty clear...

In the constitution that the VP assumes the role. If both are incapacitated or die, it goes to house speaker.

[Timewas]

91. Not sure

Not so sure there, he cannot be elected to a third term but not so sure he cannot be VP and take over if needed.

[Windy Apple]

99. Two term limit...

…2.5 is more than two.

[Metaphorical]

106. I believe the constraint is actually ten years

Two terms + half a term if they succeed a president who dies or is disabled. LBJ replaced Kennedy in 1963 after the assassination, won re--election in 1964, but realized that he would have a tough re-election campaign in 1968 and retired instead.

[Windy Apple]

68. See 66.

I’m new at this !

[Think. Again.]

5. Are we already back to having our candidate chosen for us by the for-profit media?

When did the big donors "pass the torch" back to the media?

[texasfiddler]

6. I didn't know Newsom could be VP. I guess I don't know much.

That ain't sayin much

[obamanut2012]

8. Please spell his name right

[Pachamama]

11. What makes you smarter than CBS?

Just curious

[In It to Win It]

16. It would be an electoral college problem... unless one of them moves their residency from California

Which would be hard to do for the incumbent governor of California.

[Pachamama]

22. Kamala Harris is a resident of the District of Columbia & has not represented the state of CA since 2020

[Retrograde]

33. She resigned her senate seat in 2021

after the House and Senate confirmed the results of the 2020 election.

President/Vice President/Members of Congress have traditionally been viewed as being residents of their home states who happen to be in DC for their jobs - many senators and reps have residences in the DC area where they stay for part of the year. The issue you should be investigating is where are Newsom and Harris registered to vote.

[texasfiddler]

17. You obviously didn't read the rest of my self deprecating post.

12th Amendment??

[Pachamama]

20. Kamala Harris is a resident of the District of Columbia & has not represented the state of CA since 2020

Details

[Marcuse]

36. Do not underestimate The Fiddler.

[Joinfortmill]

76. Another dick

[wryter2000]

7. Lots of really good people there

I don't think Newsom would work. He and Harris are not only from California but from the Bay Area.

[Reader Rabbit]

13. I don't think Newsom would work, either.

He's incredible, but many people have a stereotypically negative view of Californians, and GN seems like he would push those buttons. I think Pete would be great. He'd bring in a lot of enthusiastic younger voters, as well as Midwesterners.

[Unwind Your Mind]

38. Pete would be my choice for VP

Newsom is my governor and I don’t think he has national appeal

And he has PG&E $$$$ problems, so…

[Quakerfriend]

79. "Mayor Pete" would be great! And yes, two from CA

would not go over well with mainstream America .

[greatauntoftriplets]

9. J.B. Pritzker is great, but I don't want to lose him as governor.

[chicoescuela]

10. I like Big Gretch or Mayor Pete

[Texin]

24. I don't think they'll double down on women at the top of the ticket. And Pete would face some considerable headwinds.

Mark Kelly would be pretty awesome, but what would that mean for Arizona?

[chicoescuela]

27. Everybody loves astronauts

[aggiesal]

12. Newsom can't be VP, ...

(D)'s are sure to win California, but with both on the ticket from California,
they would not be allowed to claim California's electoral college votes.

My suggestion would be Whitmer.

[Pachamama]

26. If Senator Harris was on a ticket with Newsom - that would be true - but - she isn't a CA Senator

And while California hatred exists - Gavin Newsom is a great Democrat and leader and would be a great choice

[aggiesal]

90. What does being a CA Senator have anything to do with this? ...

2 people regardless of their position in or out of government, from the same state, can not claim their Electoral Votes ever.

This was going to happen, when GW McIdiot chose Darth Cheney for his running mate, while Cheney was a resident of Texas, running Halliburton out of Dallas.
Since GW was from Houston, they couldn't claim Texas Electoral Votes.
So Cheney had to set up residency in Wyoming, his home state, only 4 days before the selection was announced.

As we all know in 2000, they needed every Electoral Vote, they could get, to win.

[roamer65]

14. My prediction. My guv, Gretchen Whitmer.

It locks down MI in the D column and will generate a lot of enthusiasm in the Great Lakes and Midwest states.

[ZonkerHarris]

83. my 1st choice would be Whitmer and then 2nd would be Pete B.

[malthaussen]

15. Ya know, currently we don't even know that Kamala Harris will be the candidate...

... and if you think it improbable that the DNC will choose someone else, how probable did you think it was that Mr Biden would drop out?

-- Mal

[Elessar Zappa]

28. The DNC doesn't decide.

The delegates do and they’re mostly Biden loyalists. Biden endorsed Kamala so I’m very sure she’ll be the nominee.

[haele]

18. Who cares who the Media picks.

It's who Harris picks, who she thinks can best balance her both politically and in the Executive Office.

All the Democratic leadership is probably huddling with her now, if they haven't already done so.
Hopefully they'll pick someone strong where we don't potentially lose a legislative seat or governorship. There's a strategy that's got to go forward. We need to get the House, keep the Senate, and help the Governors.

Haele

[Lancero]

19. Funny, I've seen all these names mentioned here - pushed, as you would say - as her VP pick too.

Is DU - Are we? - corporate media too?

[Nimble_Idea]

46. huh?

[Deep State Witch]

21. Andy, Roy, or Pete

Roy Cooper and Andy Beshear are both popular Dem governors in southern states. Cooper is term-limited, so he's out as of January anyway. Pete Buttigieg has probably been the most effective member of the Cabinet, is super-smart, and would make mincemeat out of Vance. I love Wes Moore, but he's really only been governor for 2 years. Besides, Maryland is reliably blue. Same with Pritzker in Illinois - a reliably blue state. Taking Warnock or Kelly out of the Senate right now would be really tough, since we only have a 1-vote margin. Shapiro and Whitmer are both popular governors of swing states. I don't know much about Gina Raimondo.

Another good VP candidate would be Jay Inslee of Washington. But then it's a West-coast-only ticket. My bet is that it's going to be Cooper, Beshear, or Buttigieg.

[Grown2Hate]

32. That's why I'm a HARD pass on Warnock (LOVE him, but a Repuke Gov would replace him), but I DO like Kelly

(since a Democratic Gov would replace him). He's starting to make a lot of sense, and not just because I'm from AZ.

[Unwind Your Mind]

42. Another thing to consider

Is if I were a Democrat from Kentucky (somebody correct me if I’m wrong) I wouldn’t want Beshear running off to be VP. He’s standing between the people of his state and all kinds of fked up repub shenanigans. He needs to stay with them imo it’s too important

[Island Blue]

81. As a NC resident, I love Gov. Cooper!

Having him on the ticket could help with winning the state (and help Josh Stein win the gubernatorial race). My only concern about him is that he’s pretty low key, and not a super dynamic speaker.

[Nimble_Idea]

92. he's on the list

but I agree. Kamala might want to put NC in play and pick him. Safe bet is Shapiro though.

[pinkstarburst]

85. Kelly and Warnock are non-starters IMHO because we need those senate seats

If they were the only good candidates, maybe, but there are lots of good names. They both won those seats by really narrow margins and there is no guarantee whoever took their place would win them again. People keep saying Kelly's seat replacement would be appointed by a democratic governor, but they're forgetting that person would have to run again in both 2026 and 2028 with no guarantee they would hold the seat. It took someone as popular as Kelly to get it in the first place. We need him where he is.

[Nimble_Idea]

93. this is exactly the calculations going on right now

think it will be down to Coop or Shapiro. With PA getting the nod.

[pinkstarburst]

94. Shapiro is a good choice.

Pete is my first choice, but Shapiro brings Pennsylvania and we need that.

[Eyeball_Kid]

107. Inslee will be termed-out and could be available.

He's bright and communicates well.

[Fiendish Thingy]

23. All very logical choices

Some strategically better than others, but all worth considering.

[OnDoutside]

29. It's probably going to be a white male and either midwest or East Coast ? Plus if it is a sitting Governor

do they have to be mindful of who would replace him if successful ?

[duncang]

30. One thing.

I’d like to see a vp pick from a state with a democrat governor first of all. Whether U.S. representative or senator. I’m pretty sure the governor gets to pick a temporary until elections to fill the seat. This would keep the status quo.

[Nimble_Idea]

96. If it's Shapiro,

we will be in good shape on all fronts. He runs PA until he takes office.

[JCMach1]

31. Step outside the politosphear and consider someone like Mark Cuban

Dude has billions in LIQUID cash from sale of Mavericks shares and other deals. Instant name recognition and positive spin. Legit cred for helping people...

Neutralizes socialism noise BS.

Oh, and reality TV famous... Way more than his orangeness.

A phone call and a yes and WE win in a landslide with that ticket.

[TexasBushwhacker]

37. I kinda like this idea

He's a billionaire who is actually a self made man, unlike Trump, Musk and so many others.

[JCMach1]

63. Foil for you know who.

My main point being, don't just fixate on DC for the VP spot.

There are quite a few choices that could blow the race wide open. Cuban, however you feel about him, would be a game changer.

[Nimble_Idea]

47. Mark will support with money even not on the ticket

and I'm not sure having billionaires on the ticket is advisable.

I like Mike Bloomberg, but we saw what happened.

[valleyrogue]

74. No more celebrities with no political experience.

We have been there and done that, and the results were terrible.

[JCMach1]

97. It's VP and we would win in a landslide that takes House and Senate

We should be lucky enough he would actually do it .

[valleyrogue]

100. He has no political experience whatsoever.

The Trump disaster is what we got when we pulled a celebrity off the street.

I don't want celebrities anywhere NEAR the White House. At least Reagan ran for and was elected governor of California prior to his presidential runs.

[JCMach1]

111. It's VP... Let's just recall he strongly supported Biden staying in the race

In the last couple of weeks.

Where were some of the politicos like Beshear, Cooper, Kelly, etc?

Undecideds and Independents will be up for grabs with the switch to Harris.

Only question, are we really playing to win.

[DET]

112. Oh Hell No

No more reality TV stars, actors, ‘influencers’, ‘bros’, and other unserious contenders. Politicians require a different mindset and skillset than businessmen and self promoters. Women are going to dominate this election. The last thing we want to see is a ‘dude’ who reminds us of a narcissistic ex-husband or boyfriend who’s out drinking beer and watching WWE at 2am while we’re home changing diapers. That is not ‘legit cred’ to us.

[TygrBright]

34. Wondering why Sherrod Brown isn't in the running. n/t

[TexasBushwhacker]

41. He's fighting for his Senate seat n/t

[politicat]

51. He's a Senator from a state with a Republican governor, so that's where he needs to be.

N/t

[Indykatie]

87. For Starters Sherrod Brown Called for Biden to Step Aside

[Renew Deal]

39. Raimondo is interesting

She was a governor from RI. Doesn’t help with a region, but very experienced.

[Nimble_Idea]

58. but....you didn't even have that as an explicit option in your poll

[Renew Deal]

67. Didn't think of it.

I had “other”

I’m pretty open minded on the topic

[somaticexperiencing]

40. no matter who put together the list, this is a STRONG list. I'm behind I'd say all of these. I do have favorites, and

above all else - I'm ready to get out there, donate, campaign, work hard, speak out, move forward with gusto.

I'm fired up and ready to go.
Moving together, hopefully, in our individual ways to defeat the absolute threat of Donald J. Trump and company.
What a bunch of hypocrites, liars, bigots, bullies, and Fascists they are.

I'll leave my thoughts on the ones that called for this till later.
As long as we get a concerted, coordinated campaign around people like Kamala and this group, I'm actually excited to move out of my grief into my action.

[Nimble_Idea]

48. woot woot!

Fired up!

[Raftergirl]

43. So if all corporate media is bad where the eff do you all get your news?

Bloggers? Influencers? Other DU posters? Iimaginary friend?

You all need to get a grip.

[Nimble_Idea]

64. ?

[uponit7771]

116. Plenty of indy sources for news, Ground News list even list slants

[MorbidButterflyTat]

52. Someone new, just like that!

Who decides?

Three months out. Totally normal, right? JFC.

[JustAnotherGen]

53. The only one

Who wouldn't stab her in the back is Moore - and maybe Pete.

[Windy Apple]

54. Top 3 Chart !

1 Whitmer

2 Mayor Pete

3 Mike Kelly

[Lovie777]

57. Who is pushing.......................

RWers

[FloridaBlues]

59. Any popular Governor that can bring a swing state with him.

[democratsruletheday]

72. Agree FB...Kelly or Shapiro

fo sho

[Nimble_Idea]

73. I like Kelly, but I'd rather keep his senate seat

they can't take from him.

[bucolic_frolic]

60. Cooper brings the best geographic balancem and perhaps his own state.

Whitmer and Shapiro bring their own states aboard, though Shapiro hasn't been in office long enough. I think the rest are long shots.

I don't know enough about Cooper, though he must be something to keep getting elected in NC.

Would we go with an all female ticket?

[Island Blue]

89. Roy Cooper has been an excellent governor!

He’s had a tough roe to hoe because of our current Republican super majority in both legislative branches (fuck gerrymandering), but he’s still managed to do a fantastic job. He’s not a super dynamic speaker (imo), but that’s the only negative that I can think of off the top of my head.

[MOMFUDSKI]

61. Shapiro will make them crazy and scared

to death. We wait

[Nimble_Idea]

71. yeah, I'm trying to get some info from magaland

when I do, i'll let you know what they think about your point.

but so far, the silence speaks volumes!! They ghosting me!

[rampartc]

65. i'm likong the bashear idea

or perhaps jon bel edwards.

a southern white male governor might attract the saner repubs?

i will settle for any kind of win, but a crushing defeat for trump and his flying monkeys would be nice.

[DET]

69. Groovin on a Sunday Afternoon

I’d love it to be Buttigieg, but that’s probably too risky. Josh Shapiro would be a safer bet. I never heard of Pritzker, Cooper, or Raimondo until today.

[Nimble_Idea]

98. I've heard of Pritzker, Cooper. But NEVER Raimondo.

someone really trying hard on that one.

[democratsruletheday]

70. MY top 3: Kelly/Shapiro/Pritzker

make it so! I'd be happy with any ONE of those 3

[usonian]

75. Did I miss something? IT'S KAMALA'S CHOICE.

I'm about ready to block all material not originating from a DU member's keyboard.

• NOMINEES ARE NOT THE MEDIA'S CHOICE

• PRESIDENTS ARE NOT THE MEDIA'S CHOICE

• CABINET MEMBERS ARE NOT THE MEDIA'S CHOICE

• BASKIN AND ROBBINS FLAVORS ARE NOT THE MEDIA'S CHOICE


Message to media: report the f***ing news or go home and get your f***ing shine boxes.

[Emile]

77. I hope she chooses AOC

[Nimble_Idea]

80. I hear ya....but

If you did, we wouldn't know the "donors" were up to no good and trying to push Joe out.

Have to keep the head up and looking 360!

[usonian]

88. I actually got the "tech bros" idea from Hacker News

Not the ultimate source, but Hacker News moderates links. About the same time EarlG posted his magnum opus.

Hacker News members tend to be quite sharp with sources. I've seen some shredded (and called out one or two, myself)

Hear ya!

[nevergiveup]

78. Josh Shapiro never ceases to impress. I believe he and Harris would be unstoppable.

[Catherine Vincent]

84. Harris/Beshear 2024

[iemanja]

95. Buttigieg

He's a great resource.

[rgbecker]

114. Indeed. Would make mince meat out of JD Vance in a debate.

His midwest roots and work ethic would certainly help get the "Working class" to the polls for our ticket.

[Silent Type]

103. Do you have any to add to the stellar, though corp media, list? I trust Harris.

[Nimble_Idea]

105. no, I only bow to the corp masters

My list only has Shapiro.

Anything else isn't optimal.

[angrychair]

110. Already posted in an OP

But I'm in on Roy Cooper. He could help tip the scales blue in NC, which works help offset a lose in other purple states like AZ and GA.
More importantly, I think he could help boost the numbers in VA and even in GA.

[Nimble_Idea]

120. I hear ya on Roy

He's certainly on the shortlist -

It will come down to Cooper or Shapiro.

I'm not sold on the whole NC thing. It's like the old Florida mirage.

Shapiro is optimal imho.

[mucholderthandirt]

117. I love Roy Cooper, my governor.

He's done amazing work for the state, despite being vetoed by our dumb state house and senate people.

But my worry is, if we put Harris at the top of the ticket, with an older white male behind her, people are going to overlook her in favor of the older, white male. That's not going to work.

She needs someone young, if a man, and someone who won't allow her to be the "token black female" on the ticket. Harris would be a strong president, we don't need to stab her in the back. I say, let her choose, male, female, white, not, straight, not, whatever.