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FarPoint

(14,753 posts)
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:05 PM Jul 2024

Stupid question... Biden will remain President thru the election, correct?

Then, VP Harris remains also as VP and will be President Elect after the election correct?

I just need to keep my thoughts in order....

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Stupid question... Biden will remain President thru the election, correct? (Original Post) FarPoint Jul 2024 OP
Yes Raven123 Jul 2024 #1
Thank you.... FarPoint Jul 2024 #7
Until January 20, 2025. nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #2
Yes. (unless Biden decides to resign--which he should not) hlthe2b Jul 2024 #3
The Felon's Mikey Mike (R) is having a cow already BoRaGard Jul 2024 #15
Mikey Johnson sticks with his fantasy hero Trump keithbvadu2 Jul 2024 #38
Until January 20th liberal N proud Jul 2024 #4
Thank you sooo much... FarPoint Jul 2024 #11
Yes, he'll remain President. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #5
Thank you. FarPoint Jul 2024 #8
Yes Joe will guide the ship of State through election turbulence and aftermath bucolic_frolic Jul 2024 #6
Great point you make as well as helping me. FarPoint Jul 2024 #13
I've been having happy thoughts of executive orders Phoenix61 Jul 2024 #18
Should he gift the Presidency to Harris at the Convention? Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #9
Nah... kirby Jul 2024 #17
Johnson wouldn't become VP. He's 3rd in line for the presidency but there's no succession Ocelot II Jul 2024 #21
I edited / corrected before your reply... kirby Jul 2024 #23
Johnson does not become the VP in any current scenario. What is this all about? hlthe2b Jul 2024 #22
Johnson would be a heartbeat away. bucolic_frolic Jul 2024 #30
If you are suggesting they would assassinate Kamala--what's to keep them from doing so now? hlthe2b Jul 2024 #34
Anything can happen. Illness. Slips, falls, motorcade accidents, aneurysm, clots. bucolic_frolic Jul 2024 #37
Well, then Biden needs to stay as I've said... or Harris needs to pre-plan her VP choice with appropriate hlthe2b Jul 2024 #40
Do you mean a VP vacancy due to obstructions to confirm a replacement? Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #24
Absolutely not. It would leave the VP position open Ocelot II Jul 2024 #19
This is no worse than Harris needing to succeed to fill a Biden term. Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #25
Nope. LuvLoogie Jul 2024 #33
You think there would be too much backlash? Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #39
And he has immunity The Blue Flower Jul 2024 #10
Biden must not resign. If he does I will assume our democracy is over. Biophilic Jul 2024 #12
Correct - unless Biden steps down. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #14
I think it's President Pro Tempore of the Senate. Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #41
That's probably correct. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #42
With an open convention it could be any number Emile Jul 2024 #16
He'll remain President until Inauguration Day. Iggo Jul 2024 #20
Thank you.... FarPoint Jul 2024 #26
Heads up! Your next post is # 13,000 for you. Iggo Jul 2024 #27
He should remain president until January wryter2000 Jul 2024 #28
stepping down opens the door for more Repug ratfuckery splunge63 Jul 2024 #29
I don't blame you for asking.... cheezmaka Jul 2024 #31
I am still trying to stay current! FarPoint Jul 2024 #32
Magats are ignorant unread twats rockbluff botanist Jul 2024 #35
Who knows ? President Biden was adamant that he would not be withdrawing until it was announced today MichMan Jul 2024 #36

FarPoint

(14,753 posts)
7. Thank you....
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:08 PM
Jul 2024

My head is spinning.... Ya know, since we have been unprepared and overwhelmed as loyal Democrats...

I can just imagine how this blindsiding game plan has foiled the MAGA's.... which is good...

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
15. The Felon's Mikey Mike (R) is having a cow already
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:12 PM
Jul 2024

In his weasly puppet voice, demanding that Joe step aside. Ha ha. As if he's gonna do what Trump/Putin ask.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
38. Mikey Johnson sticks with his fantasy hero Trump
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:47 PM
Jul 2024

Speaker and super Christian Mike Johnson likes his fantasy men well-muscled.


bucolic_frolic

(55,039 posts)
6. Yes Joe will guide the ship of State through election turbulence and aftermath
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:08 PM
Jul 2024

His official acts are immune!

Phoenix61

(18,823 posts)
18. I've been having happy thoughts of executive orders
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:12 PM
Jul 2024

he can pass on his way out. He’s a good man so he won’t but….

Frasier Balzov

(5,052 posts)
9. Should he gift the Presidency to Harris at the Convention?
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:09 PM
Jul 2024

Republicans will be calling for Biden to resign immediately.

He can give Harris the advantage of incumbency going into Election Day if he wants.

It would be a Convention crowd pleaser and Republicans would be left regretting what they called for.

kirby

(4,534 posts)
17. Nah...
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:12 PM
Jul 2024

The country would be without a VP.

The only upside I see to doing that would be Trump having to throw away all his 45-47 merch, since Harris would be the 47th President.

Ocelot II

(130,436 posts)
21. Johnson wouldn't become VP. He's 3rd in line for the presidency but there's no succession
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:16 PM
Jul 2024

for the Vice President position.

hlthe2b

(113,836 posts)
22. Johnson does not become the VP in any current scenario. What is this all about?
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:16 PM
Jul 2024

Yes, he is in the line of succession, but Harris becomes President and she names her VP which would have to be confirmed by both houses of Congress. It would remain vacant if they refused to confirm--not passed to Johnson.

bucolic_frolic

(55,039 posts)
30. Johnson would be a heartbeat away.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:29 PM
Jul 2024

Don't tell me nothing can happen. All the plane travel, public events with the lunatics in America, even ordinary illness can end the best of plans.

hlthe2b

(113,836 posts)
34. If you are suggesting they would assassinate Kamala--what's to keep them from doing so now?
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:39 PM
Jul 2024

Along with Biden if he remains, as he has stated he will, President through 2025.

bucolic_frolic

(55,039 posts)
37. Anything can happen. Illness. Slips, falls, motorcade accidents, aneurysm, clots.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:46 PM
Jul 2024

No Democrat wants Johnson one step closer.

hlthe2b

(113,836 posts)
40. Well, then Biden needs to stay as I've said... or Harris needs to pre-plan her VP choice with appropriate
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:53 PM
Jul 2024

Pelosi-level vote-counting ahead of time for both chambers.

Frasier Balzov

(5,052 posts)
24. Do you mean a VP vacancy due to obstructions to confirm a replacement?
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:17 PM
Jul 2024

It only lasts until Inauguration Day.

Harris simultaneously names her VP running mate to fill the vacancy.

And Republicans in Congress look like craven hacks if they block confirmation.

What other worries should worry me?

Ocelot II

(130,436 posts)
19. Absolutely not. It would leave the VP position open
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:14 PM
Jul 2024

because the GOP Congress would never approve Harris’ choice per the Constitution, so if anything happened to Harris before the new administration was sworn in on 1/20, the religious nut Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House, would become president.

Frasier Balzov

(5,052 posts)
25. This is no worse than Harris needing to succeed to fill a Biden term.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:20 PM
Jul 2024

In fact, the vacancy we're talking about in the proposed scenario only lasts until Inauguration Day.

And the Republicans look bad blocking a VP confirmation in the meantime.

Frasier Balzov

(5,052 posts)
39. You think there would be too much backlash?
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:51 PM
Jul 2024

You think the backlash more than cancels out the value of incumbency?

After Jan 6, what does playing for keeps look like?

Biophilic

(6,537 posts)
12. Biden must not resign. If he does I will assume our democracy is over.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:11 PM
Jul 2024

I don’t believe he would willingly leave her hanging like that. He has more integrity. If he leaves I will assume he was pushed out by the “donors” again. If that’s true why bother to vote?

Ms. Toad

(38,586 posts)
14. Correct - unless Biden steps down.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:11 PM
Jul 2024

If he does, that would give Harris the advantage of incumbency. But it would also raise concerns about whether Congress will confirm the appointment of a new VP - and of who would preside over the electoral college if the office of the VP is vacant. I haven't looked into what happens in that circumstance.

Frasier Balzov

(5,052 posts)
41. I think it's President Pro Tempore of the Senate.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:54 PM
Jul 2024

Right now that's Patty Murray, but a Republican majority in the Senate would change that.

Repairs to the Electoral Vote Act should have made it more difficult to work mischief.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
28. He should remain president until January
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:25 PM
Jul 2024

Unless he feels like leaving now and making Kamala president, which wouldn't be a bad idea, imho.

cheezmaka

(785 posts)
31. I don't blame you for asking....
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:33 PM
Jul 2024

I didn't know that top Dems and donors would succeed in influencing President Biden in deciding to exit his run. He's definitely did a great job in getting this Country back on track after 2020....

FarPoint

(14,753 posts)
32. I am still trying to stay current!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:35 PM
Jul 2024

These moves are revolutionary level stuff....New ground is being broken.... I'm watching with eyes wide open and in Ahhh.

rockbluff botanist

(360 posts)
35. Magats are ignorant unread twats
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:39 PM
Jul 2024

President Lyndon Johnson did not run for a second term and completed his allotted time in office. President Biden will do the same.

This does not set any precedent although you would not know this if listening to the completely ignorant magat morons.

MichMan

(17,114 posts)
36. Who knows ? President Biden was adamant that he would not be withdrawing until it was announced today
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:40 PM
Jul 2024
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