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[Shoonra]

1. I really wish ....

I really wish that Biden had not made this decision while he was sick as a dog with covid.

[onecaliberal]

2. Nope. I'm going with what AOC said.

[Caribbeans]

3. Every Single Presidential Debate since 1960 has happened in Sep or Oct

Why was the Biden-Trump debate held in JUNE, even before the Convention?

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/presidential-documents-archive-guidebook/presidential-campaigns-debates-and-endorsements-0

[Self Esteem]

12. Because Biden miscalculated.

He saw there wasn't much movement in the polls, even after the SOTU and Trump essentially winning the nomination. He thought the debate would engage voters earlier and remind them of just how bat-shit Trump was. It didn't work out that way. I doubt Biden threw that debate.

[Raven123]

4. Yes, but I let it go until someone confirms.

[flamingdem]

5. Maybe, but msnbc says Jill was supportive up until the decision

So far it feels like the right thing to do.

The media had it in for Biden and that wasn't going to stop.

And.. he wasn't going to get younger.

[Attilatheblond]

6. Well, all the air time is no longer about the GOP convention

and the oversized bandages on ears, so, yeah, it crossed my mind.

[mcar]

7. I cannot imagine a politician as savvy as Biden

waking up today saying, OK I'm out.

I believe there has been much behind the scenes negotiating around putting VP Harris at the top of the ticket.

Which makes those pass the torch Dems even more awful. They publicly humiliated this great leader.

[Irish_Dem]

8. Certainly decisions were made before today.

Strategies for rolling it out had to be made.

[Sympthsical]

10. From what I'm reading

Pelosi, Schumer, and Jeffries have been coordinating and planning for the seamless transition to Harris for a few weeks now. That is probably why the assassination attempt on Trump didn't really tamp the situation down. The wheels were already in motion. That's why everything's moving lightning quick. That's why all these endorsements are flooding in.

This was all organized. We saw glimpses of it when Jeffries and Schumer told the DNC to chill on the virtual roll call.

Apparently, the President's final decision was made yesterday, but everything that had been said and was being discussed was being very, very tightly confined to the President's innermost circle. Even top campaign figures were blind-sided by the announcement and not told until - quite literally - one minute before the statement was released. This explains why we've seen campaign figures making the statements they have Friday, Saturday, and even as recently as this morning.

But - and these are sources, of course - Pelosi, Schumer, and Jeffries started this project shortly after the debate, and it wasn't even a question.

My speculation: They were ready if an incident such as the debate happened. I think they knew something about his health, that it wasn't as ok as advertised, so that they had fingers hovering over the abort button if things went south before the convention.

Because they moved quickly.

[LeftInTX]

11. Newsmax ( a RW source) predicted that he would withdraw on Sunday. We dismissed it.

Carl Bernstein also said he was going to withdraw on Sunday.

Where did Newsmax get their info?

[Sympthsical]

13. The President's campaign staff didn't even know

I think people were just speculating.

I had it pegged for Monday. No sources. Just a sense of things. The writing felt pretty on the wall before the weekend began.

[Self Esteem]

14. No.

I think Biden was in it until the very end but realized the damage his own party was doing couldn't be overcome. He likely could have weathered this, rode things to the convention and locked it up but lost support of key Democrats, guys like Tester, who might even come out and say they aren't sure how they'd vote in November. At that point, it probably became clear that all the backstabbing by Democrats mortally wounded him and even if he did win the nomination, which he certainly would have had he stayed in the race, the party-inflicted damage would have been too difficult to overcome.

I think the campaign, and Biden himself, had hoped things would die down this weekend, especially with the Republican Convention coming to an end Thursday. But they didn't. And they realized it was likely going to be this way until the Democrats nominated him. Again, by that point, he'd be too wounded to take on Trump.

And I think that's what a lot of the donor class wanted. They either wanted Biden out or for congressional Democrats to do enough damage that he lost in November and they could say, "see, told you so!".

[BootinUp]

15. There is a report I saw that says Biden only decided today. nt

[Xolodno]

16. Fairly sure the decision was made awhile ago.

Coordinating it however, is what took time. Biden didn't get out of bed, fart, and say I'm done today.

Polls nationally showed Biden ahead, but in the battle ground states, the ones who will decide the election sadly, he was behind.

[MoonlitKnight]

17. I certainly hope so

I would hope that this was planned and well thought out and backed by data.

So if the party rallies behind Harris I think the next step would be for Joe to step down and make Harris the President. Then she will fully be running as an incumbent, takes away the first woman issue and she can demonstrate her ability to the electorate. The downside is if something goes wrong and is mishandled.

Otherwise the convention should be open and the delegates pick the strongest candidate.

Regardless, I am thankful for Joe Biden’s leadership and for putting the interest of the American people first.

[AwakeAtLast]

18. I think

Biden was playing hard ball to make sure Kamala wasn't passed over. He set in motion a defeat of Trump by a black woman!