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demmiblue

(39,720 posts)
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:47 PM Jul 2024

News: some Democratic donors and officials are reaching out to Sen. Joe Manchin to consider standing for the...

News: some Democratic donors and officials are reaching out to Sen. Joe Manchin to consider standing for the presidential nomination, per two people familiar with the discussions




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News: some Democratic donors and officials are reaching out to Sen. Joe Manchin to consider standing for the... (Original Post) demmiblue Jul 2024 OP
LOL W_HAMILTON Jul 2024 #1
Lol ibegurpard Jul 2024 #2
BOHICA! edisdead Jul 2024 #3
NO.................. Lovie777 Jul 2024 #4
Hard pass Johonny Jul 2024 #5
Oh, vomit Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #6
Manchin can f*ck off PhilosopherKing Jul 2024 #7
What's next? Digging up Lieberman's corpse? Blaukraut Jul 2024 #8
I know everyone wants to be cynical,.. "No Labels" third party effort ain't dead just yet,.... magicarpet Jul 2024 #96
That could kill us We need unity. mucifer Jul 2024 #9
Nope JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #10
This seems like a joke Pisces Jul 2024 #11
Isn't he an Independent now? Beartracks Jul 2024 #12
I think he is switching back to D. tonekat Jul 2024 #71
LOL! anciano Jul 2024 #13
I'm depressed enough already... 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2024 #14
Murkowski asked him to run for president a while back, musicblind Jul 2024 #15
This is what happens when you cede control of the party to the donors. They start thinking they can call all the shots. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #16
That is Citizens United. I cannot see that happening. Even they have to realize that they would JohnSJ Jul 2024 #52
Now, now...they know best Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #68
Sadly you are 100% right Tickle Jul 2024 #114
He's no longer a Democrat, so, I think not MagickMuffin Jul 2024 #17
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???!!! Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #18
He'll need the support of 300 delegates to even get his name on the convention ballot Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #19
Gosh, I've been assured EVERYONE is uniting behind Harris!!111!! Arazi Jul 2024 #20
Really? Don't believe everything you read. Biophilic Jul 2024 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Carlitos Brigante Jul 2024 #97
I hope you don't think a guy who literally just left the party has any chance in hell of NYC Liberal Jul 2024 #104
And they can fuck right off stumpysbear Jul 2024 #21
I'm so tired of this parade of fools Starry Messenger Jul 2024 #22
you guys take the bait to easily. tman Jul 2024 #23
The asshole is not a Democrat dalton99a Jul 2024 #24
Yeah, no. Mz Pip Jul 2024 #25
Surely Mossfern Jul 2024 #26
I Knew It! DET Jul 2024 #27
No, Repubs hope it does but no dem is supporting a guy who left the party. Keep dreaming Pisces Jul 2024 #33
Exactly, in addition very few if any of the pledged delegates would vote for him. JohnSJ Jul 2024 #57
Hell fucking no. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #28
Wouldn't mind seeing Kamala Dean Phillips him. ColinC Jul 2024 #29
I rushed here to add my Lol ! OnDoutside Jul 2024 #30
Manchin vishnura Jul 2024 #31
I'm sure Sinema will be his VP. live love laugh Jul 2024 #32
NOPE. CousinIT Jul 2024 #34
I seriously doubt donors are reaching out to Manchin. Raftergirl Jul 2024 #35
His wife donated to the party once, I bet relayerbob Jul 2024 #49
We just heard two weeks of "What, you don't believe X journalist?" This was Robert Costa! Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #69
Given how much money is in merch, someone might not want to take a loss on a bunch of "Joe 2024!" stuff. Lancero Jul 2024 #70
Oh, for fuck's sake. Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #36
So Biden, at 81 is too old and literally has to be forced out dsc Jul 2024 #38
If this is actually true, then not only will we lose magnificently, but those calling out the big JohnSJ Jul 2024 #39
We could finally win West Virginia!!!!! Wounded Bear Jul 2024 #40
HA! The_Counsel Jul 2024 #58
Hahahahaha...🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤨🤪🤨 Funtatlaguy Jul 2024 #41
Hilarious. I'd sooner vote for Romney Easterncedar Jul 2024 #42
too old - can't have it both ways FHRRK Jul 2024 #43
Some donors just forced Biden out Deminpenn Jul 2024 #44
I think they miscalculated, badly Metaphorical Jul 2024 #84
I hope you are right Deminpenn Jul 2024 #110
You put good points out there and I appreciate that. ms liberty Jul 2024 #111
DINO.* Different Drummer Jul 2024 #45
Not even INO anymore.... AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2024 #73
Hahaha relayerbob Jul 2024 #46
Ah, more "people familiar with the discussions" PatSeg Jul 2024 #47
Who cares Blue Owl Jul 2024 #48
that asshole can skip the convention and stay the fuck home. ZonkerHarris Jul 2024 #50
Riiiiiight redqueen Jul 2024 #51
No way fuckers! polichick Jul 2024 #53
Thats as funny as romney.... next. Nt getagrip_already Jul 2024 #54
LOL SunsetDreams2 Jul 2024 #55
Some are even pushing for Romney anamnua Jul 2024 #56
Don't laugh to hard Miguelito Loveless Jul 2024 #59
Three words. Hell no. period. brush Jul 2024 #60
Oh, FUCK NO! Island Blue Jul 2024 #61
Manchin has about as much chance of getting the Democratic nomination as I do DFW Jul 2024 #62
I don't know since it seems Donors are more important than primaries. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #99
The primaries are done anyway. DFW Jul 2024 #112
WTF G_j Jul 2024 #63
That would truly be the last straw for me Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #64
And here is the other shoe alarimer Jul 2024 #65
Not gonna happen. nt SunSeeker Jul 2024 #66
Do any of these people have names? BluesRunTheGame Jul 2024 #67
Of all possible alternates tonekat Jul 2024 #72
When I wrote for the AZ Republic, the editorial board endorsed Lieberman in 04 AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2024 #74
Just now announced on MSNBC Ghost of Tom Joad Jul 2024 #75
Fuck that! sunflowerseed Jul 2024 #76
What a bag of @$$holes. CentralMass Jul 2024 #77
Which donors? Musk and Thiel? mzmolly Jul 2024 #78
Haard No. nt Sunsky Jul 2024 #79
So will they threaten to stop donations if Manchin is not the candidate? Emile Jul 2024 #80
Manchin wildflowergardener Jul 2024 #81
I can believe it durablend Jul 2024 #82
We'll see who the billionaires pick for us. StarryNite Jul 2024 #83
Absolutely not. AltairIV Jul 2024 #85
So...81 was too old for them, but they're just fine with *checks notes* a 76 year old? tanyev Jul 2024 #86
Snowball chance, meet Hell BunkieBandit Jul 2024 #87
Right, now let me just puke right here..... a kennedy Jul 2024 #88
here we go again.....nt ImNotGod Jul 2024 #89
As much as people are annoyed with him, Manchin is a very intelligent politician. brooklynite Jul 2024 #90
Is this a joke? MustLoveBeagles Jul 2024 #91
Fk that Tribetime Jul 2024 #92
Joe Manchin is a snake WVlaserguy Jul 2024 #93
We should only do that TheFarseer Jul 2024 #94
This Just Proves Big Donors Have More Money than Brains. n/t Indykatie Jul 2024 #95
And a few days from now this will just play like the hilarious (but not really funny) joke that it is. No one gives 2 Carlitos Brigante Jul 2024 #98
Trial balloons and pieces of shit. Iggo Jul 2024 #100
Let's give em Bernie instead! GPV Jul 2024 #101
OMG! Most stupid idea yet! A Putinite oilman as the Democratic candidate! Doodley Jul 2024 #102
Manchin turns 77 next month. He has the same "age problem" Biden has. Midnight Writer Jul 2024 #103
Manchin... republianmushroom Jul 2024 #105
Good idea Manchin. You'll get clobbered. mahina Jul 2024 #106
He's not even a Democrat he's Independent. Cattledog Jul 2024 #107
Some billionaires. GoodRaisin Jul 2024 #108
Cool. He'll be used as a token so it doesn't look like a coronation ecstatic Jul 2024 #109
fuck machin who didn't vote d all the way. pansypoo53219 Jul 2024 #113
Hell no, not that Joe! mucholderthandirt Jul 2024 #115

magicarpet

(18,511 posts)
96. I know everyone wants to be cynical,.. "No Labels" third party effort ain't dead just yet,....
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:53 PM
Jul 2024

... if enough formaldehyde was pumped into Joe Liebermans' body - he could well be Joe Manchins' running mate in 2024. An Al Gore redux of sorts.

If there was enough formaldehyde left over they could resurrect Reagan and have The Gipper replace trDUMP on the 2024 ReThug ticket. Vance would be elated and ecstatic to be Reagan's running mate this coming Presidential election. Boy would that fluff up Vance's opportunistic resume and enhance his future political ambitions.





JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
10. Nope
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:50 PM
Jul 2024

He doesn't believe black people should be able to vote. He an Sinema stabbed us in the back.

musicblind

(4,563 posts)
15. Murkowski asked him to run for president a while back,
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:51 PM
Jul 2024

and Manchin made it clear to her that he did not want to.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
16. This is what happens when you cede control of the party to the donors. They start thinking they can call all the shots.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:52 PM
Jul 2024

They just got rid of Biden - why does anyone think that won't embolden them to do more damage?

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
52. That is Citizens United. I cannot see that happening. Even they have to realize that they would
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:06 PM
Jul 2024

lose over 50% of the Democratic base.

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
17. He's no longer a Democrat, so, I think not
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:52 PM
Jul 2024


These donors and officials have done enough already behind closed doors. Stop trying to subvert the will of the people. Who’ve already exceeded and got your wish now go stand in the corner.



Fiendish Thingy

(23,236 posts)
19. He'll need the support of 300 delegates to even get his name on the convention ballot
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:52 PM
Jul 2024

No more than 50 from any single state.

Oh, and he’ll need to re-register as a Democrat.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
20. Gosh, I've been assured EVERYONE is uniting behind Harris!!111!!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:52 PM
Jul 2024

It’s a done deal.

No more uncertainty…

Response to Arazi (Reply #20)

NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
104. I hope you don't think a guy who literally just left the party has any chance in hell of
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 08:15 PM
Jul 2024

being the nominee.

DET

(2,499 posts)
27. I Knew It!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:59 PM
Jul 2024

They didn’t toss Biden just to elect someone who shares his views on taxation - let alone a black woman. They need someone who they can easily bribe to do what they want. Hence Joe Manchin. This could get ugly.

Pisces

(6,235 posts)
33. No, Repubs hope it does but no dem is supporting a guy who left the party. Keep dreaming
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:00 PM
Jul 2024
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
57. Exactly, in addition very few if any of the pledged delegates would vote for him.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:07 PM
Jul 2024

Raftergirl

(1,856 posts)
35. I seriously doubt donors are reaching out to Manchin.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:02 PM
Jul 2024

I wish people wouldn’t use Twitter as a news source.

Prairie Gates

(8,157 posts)
69. We just heard two weeks of "What, you don't believe X journalist?" This was Robert Costa!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:14 PM
Jul 2024

Very prominent!

Lancero

(3,276 posts)
70. Given how much money is in merch, someone might not want to take a loss on a bunch of "Joe 2024!" stuff.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:14 PM
Jul 2024

dsc

(53,397 posts)
38. So Biden, at 81 is too old and literally has to be forced out
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:02 PM
Jul 2024

but Manchin, at 76 should be drafted. All righty then.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
39. If this is actually true, then not only will we lose magnificently, but those calling out the big
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:03 PM
Jul 2024

donors as interfering with selecting the Democratic candidate by bribes and treachery will have been absolutely right.

I have no doubt though that if Manchin did try to challenge Harris, he wouldn't get to first base.

and I will make this pledge, if that actually happened, I would no longer be a Democratic, but re-register as no party preference.



The_Counsel

(1,757 posts)
58. HA!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:07 PM
Jul 2024

Manchin wasn’t gonna win W. Va. SENATE if he had the guts to run.

Or maybe he’d termed out. I forget.

Either way, he wasn’t/isn’t winning shit…

Easterncedar

(6,267 posts)
42. Hilarious. I'd sooner vote for Romney
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:03 PM
Jul 2024

And I’d sooner take a hammer to my head than vote for Mitt.

FHRRK

(1,410 posts)
43. too old - can't have it both ways
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:03 PM
Jul 2024

He is 76, basically the same age when Biden won. Sorry power brokers, you can't have it both ways, but fully expect them to try.

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
44. Some donors just forced Biden out
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:04 PM
Jul 2024

It might be naive to think the same thing can't happen to Harris.

Metaphorical

(2,634 posts)
84. I think they miscalculated, badly
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:26 PM
Jul 2024

Here's my guess - they wanted the democratic party in disarray, so that they could, best case, put someone in of their own choosing, and at a minimum have Biden come out of the convention torn by strife and discord, limping to defeat against Trump. They misread the concern of the politicians about Biden and thought it had more to do with unhappiness about his policies rather than his health, and they tried to take advantage of it. Biden looked at what was becoming an increasingly untenable situation, and tipped the board over. Harris is now getting pledges of support from the state delegates and state committee chairs, and is quickly capitalizing on the growing anger against big money donors to consolidate her base.

Harris is going into the convention as the heir apparent, with Biden's blessing, having nullified many of the attacks being thrown against Biden. The problem with coups is that they often can turn on unexpected developments. One more thing to keep in mind - Biden wasn't force out- he walked. Big difference. He set the stage for his own exit on a high note, energized the party's base, managed to get his protege into a position to capitalize, and secured his reputation in history. This was not supposed to happen.

ms liberty

(11,237 posts)
111. You put good points out there and I appreciate that.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:23 PM
Jul 2024

I'm still furious right now, though.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
47. Ah, more "people familiar with the discussions"
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:05 PM
Jul 2024

There sure are a lot of those "people" these days.

If true, some donors don't have a clue about Democratic politics.

SunsetDreams2

(387 posts)
55. LOL
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:07 PM
Jul 2024

You left the party for your own ambitions
You don’t get to come back into the party for your own ambitions.

Joe Manchin can kick rocks!

Miguelito Loveless

(5,752 posts)
59. Don't laugh to hard
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:08 PM
Jul 2024

You can bet the same money faction that pushed Biden out will be pushing Manchin hard. I no longer have any faith in the Dem "leadership".

For what it's worth, the best VP pick for Harris would be Gov. Roy Cooper of NC, since he would boost the chances of picking up NC substantially.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
62. Manchin has about as much chance of getting the Democratic nomination as I do
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:10 PM
Jul 2024

Maybe less, in fact.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
112. The primaries are done anyway.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 10:09 PM
Jul 2024

The donors can wave their checkbooks at the convention all they want. Unless Harris changes her mind, she inherits Biden’s $100 million war chest. No single Democratic donor out there is going to match that.

Prairie Gates

(8,157 posts)
64. That would truly be the last straw for me
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:11 PM
Jul 2024

Thank God for Primary Election Rules on DU...

I'm not sure even those would make my response to a Harris/Manchin ticket acceptable.

tonekat

(2,529 posts)
72. Of all possible alternates
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:19 PM
Jul 2024

Manchin is the least desirable. Not even on the same page as the others.

If you vote for Manchin...you're a Republican.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
74. When I wrote for the AZ Republic, the editorial board endorsed Lieberman in 04
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:22 PM
Jul 2024

Their explanation was that he was the Democratic candidate most like a Republican.

wildflowergardener

(1,029 posts)
81. Manchin
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:25 PM
Jul 2024

Just heard he was considering running for president. Hell no! I may have to get kicked off DU if he becomes the nominee or any part of the ticket.

durablend

(9,270 posts)
82. I can believe it
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:26 PM
Jul 2024

They're like "You people can vote for this shit sandwich or Trump gets in--your choice"

tanyev

(49,295 posts)
86. So...81 was too old for them, but they're just fine with *checks notes* a 76 year old?
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:26 PM
Jul 2024

These hypocrites can go eff themselves.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
90. As much as people are annoyed with him, Manchin is a very intelligent politician.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:30 PM
Jul 2024

He knows the hopeless odds and won't do anything.

 

Carlitos Brigante

(26,848 posts)
98. And a few days from now this will just play like the hilarious (but not really funny) joke that it is. No one gives 2
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 08:02 PM
Jul 2024

shits about this corrupt coal baron. But as a consolation price he can get a bag of dicks.

Midnight Writer

(25,410 posts)
103. Manchin turns 77 next month. He has the same "age problem" Biden has.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 08:13 PM
Jul 2024

Manchin has too much baggage and none of the qualities to be a Democratic President.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
109. Cool. He'll be used as a token so it doesn't look like a coronation
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 08:36 PM
Jul 2024

His chance of being nominated is 0%. I think it will also prevent him from going 3rd party right? lol. They should invite RFK's dumb ass too (if there's any chance he takes votes away from us).

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