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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIMO, this is what caught Trump's campaign off guard.
I believe they thought if Joe Biden stepped down, it would be due to a "failing" such as health, mental health, and/or dispiritedness. And they could add that to their campaign, Joe's weakness.
But instead, Joe Biden did step down, but for a higher calling, The Country. A selfless act in the spirit of patriotism.
Trump and his MAGA minions for years have tried to portray themselves as the "true Americans" and "patriots" while Democrats were traitors and the destruction of democracy.
And they are bewildered. Why would anyone give up that power if they didn't have to? (In their eyes, to save the country would not be a valid option.) They don't understand empathy, sympathy, benevolence, answering to a higher call. They just don't get it. And they can't respond. That's why Stephen Miller was crying; it was out of confusion and frustration. And it's not just Stephen Miller.
How do you criticize the equivalent of a saint?
Irish_Dem
(81,242 posts)They were pushing hard with a keep Biden campaign, they were sure it would work.
They saw the internal poll numbers and were thrilled.
They attempted to divide the Dem party and create chaos.
It is all backfiring on them. Big time.
no_hypocrisy
(54,899 posts)Maybe this is unnecessary 3D chess which renders it irrelevant, but . . . . suppose their campaign to "pressure" Joe Biden to step down/step aside was intended to steel him into staying in the race. Arbitrary contrarian. ("I'll show them!"
They were caught off-guard that he actually did it.
Irish_Dem
(81,242 posts)on a number of liberal and Dem forums.
They were totally consistent and unified in their approach.
Down to the all caps, exclamation points, threats, bullying and insults.
It was relentless. And all the same everywhere.
It was a like a Biden cult on steroids. It was Biden or bust.
So no, I do not think they were using reverse strategy.
AllyCat
(18,839 posts)Blue MAGA and cult member.
Im neither. Not sure I agree with your statement. I doubt it was you calling me that (to be clear)
Irish_Dem
(81,242 posts)Yes on other forums the trolls were handled differently.
LymphocyteLover
(9,842 posts)as somehow part of a Russian plot.
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)That is the sort of thing Putin does and he's very good at it.
Captain Zero
(8,905 posts)Next they want him to resign the presidency.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Mister Ed
(6,927 posts)Some of my friends consider me very articulate, but I can find no words to express my disgust at your first two posts in this thread, and your broad-brush smear of those who supported Biden.
It's clear to me that one needn't be a bot or a troll to spread division and ill will among democrats. Sheer arrogance will often suffice.
Irish_Dem
(81,242 posts)You could not be more wrong.
(BTW, ad hominem [personal] attacks are considered a weak argument. )
People are free to take or leave my comments.
Comments I make in good faith, and are respectful, logical and accurate to the best
of my ability. I don't agree with many comments made, but I don't lie about people or insult them
to try and win an argument.
I was not discussing you.
The topic of the discussion were the obvious PutinGOP trolls that most people noticed online.
bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)just don't consider MAGA anything other than whining, plundering, pillaging irrational Nazis. It helps to understand them better.
Maraya1969
(23,495 posts)Time to start reminding Americans that patriots value the lives of all Americans and want everyone to prosper and to live well and healthy. Being a patriot has nothing to do with dressing up like a Trump Clown or chanting "USA, USA" or covering your entire truck with trump flags and stickers.
Raven123
(7,794 posts)RVN VET71
(3,192 posts)Take the word -- with its full meaning -- back from the fascists who would use it to justify destroying everything America stands for.
Cosmocat
(15,424 posts)nm
Raven123
(7,794 posts)That will not change. Need Proof? In his first act as he stepped away, he endorsed Harris.
johnnyfins
(3,767 posts)Against Kamala come, and they will come, it will hurt no one but repugs.
FeelingBlue
(801 posts)since Vances wife is Indian American.
Squidly
(868 posts)I know a TON of mixed couple MAGAts. They just dont care and spew hate anyway. Boggles the mind.
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)She doesn't care about those knuckle draggers and the crack baby VP. That's all they have, they are not exactly bright or worth a damn.
She has a strong sense of self.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Did plant life in the teardrop zone wither, grow brown and quickly turn to dust? Were there somnolent sounds, like moans of anguish echoing up from a great depth?
If you answered yes to 2 or more of these questions, you have firsthand exposure of demonic possession and are eligible for a greatly discounted exorcism at any participating IHOG (International House of Gullibility) locations. But hurry, supplies are limited, offer good while holy water lasts. Void where prohibited, but remember, the devil never rests.
no_hypocrisy
(54,899 posts)zanana1
(6,488 posts)The imagery was superb.
3Hotdogs
(15,362 posts)Fukkin siri....
The stakes are hand shaped by yours truly, using only the finest pressure treated, scrap lumber from my volunteer boardwalk building weekends at the swamp. All are guaranteed to last through the election. Well the mirror might break on ya and I will replace it one time but you pay the shipping. If you break it more than once you don't appreciate it and I'm not sending ya another one. Ya don't deserve to have one.
They are guaranteed to keep Steve Miller 100 yards distance from you.
3H. Visa and M.C. accepted. I don't except Amex.
karin_sj
(1,370 posts)Made me feel better this morning to see this disgusting POS so upset!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219210996
From Raw Story:
"The left is giddy over the fact that Stephen Miller, the former senior adviser to then-President Donald Trump, is melting down due to President Joe Biden's decision to end his presidential campaign.
Miller appeared on Fox News on Sunday, where he went off on a rant about the Democratic votes were thrown away as the party rallies around Vice President Kamala Harris.
"They held a primary. They had ballots. They filled out circles!" Miller shouted on Fox News. "They went to the voting booths. They spent money on advertisements!"
Still yelling, Miller says that Republicans also spent money running against Biden.
"They just woke up one morning and said we are cancelling our entire primary. We're getting rid of our candidate," he added.
Some social media users loved watching Miller's Fox rant."
Metaphorical
(2,634 posts)of the grinch when he saw the whos in whoville coming together.
And the Grinch, with his grinch-feet ice-cold in the snow,
Stood puzzling and puzzling, how could it be so?
'It came without ribbons! It came without tags!
It came without packages, boxes or bags!'
3825-87867
(1,938 posts)Republicans are truly "Guardians Of Putin"
JohnnyRingo
(20,869 posts)The pleas are due to his advanced age and fears of diminished mental acuity, and deep down we all know that. Joe Biden has become vulnerable to viscous and effective attacks from the Trump Team. The odds of him winning was waning by the week and he did the right and noble thing.
If we can spin it, we can say he's retiring after a lengthy and distinguished career as a patriot. That is not untrue.
newdayneeded
(2,493 posts)add the option of Biden himself realized he doesn't have the strength. Do you really think he himself didn't know he was getting weaker, and seriously worried about 4 1/2 more years of presidency? Please stop pretending Joe could jog up stairs like 4 years ago. Even he knew it was hard for him to board air force 1.
DinahMoeHum
(23,604 posts)With Trump, it is OBVIOUS that he is in dementia - all you need is at least one eye and one ear to notice how he wanders off and can't string two sentences together.
2naSalit
(102,778 posts)I want to see that!
Renew Deal
(85,144 posts)Not sure if hes crying, but he is a crybaby.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19210996
2naSalit
(102,778 posts)2naSalit
(102,778 posts)Were xitter links. Thanks anyway.
Renew Deal
(85,144 posts)Its the same reason he called soldiers suckers and losers.
apnu
(8,790 posts) They say George Washingtons yielding his power and stepping away.
Is that true?
I wasnt aware that was something a person could do.
Im perplexed.
Are they going to keep on replacing whoevers in charge?
If so, whos next?
Theres nobody else in their "country" who looms quite as large
Johnny2X2X
(24,203 posts)For the entire Democratic Party to have their ducks in a row and rally around Kamala is what caught them off guard. And the way Joe did it and how it is being received caught them off guard.
And the timing is good too. Sucks all the air out of the Trump campaign.
Hope22
(4,744 posts)Sadly, That is what they are good at! Republicans do not have the brainpower to write laws anymore. They wait for the Dems to do it and then deconstruct it line for line.
sanduca
(94 posts)He will be known as the best president America has ever had. He will have saved the country from a dictator...from a monster...a criminal that wants power for vengeance and to save his ass from prison.
Kamala needs to carry that torch President Biden has passed to her with determination, strength and wisdom.
No need to put too much emphasis on possibly being the first woman president but the woman that will be strong to carry the nation forward.
Also, there should be a tribute to our beloved President Biden at the convention.
mucifer
(25,666 posts)their deplorables eat it up.
jayschool2013
(2,611 posts)From Kathleen Kingsbury's email newsletter today:
JD Vance, while introducing himself to the nation Wednesday evening as Donald Trumps vice-presidential pick, said of the relatives he has from Appalachia, That is our homeland. People will not fight for abstractions, but they will fight for their home.
Vance, of course, is on shaky ground factually consider the American Revolution as only the first of many conflicts the United States has fought on behalf of the abstract ideal of freedom over tyranny. But since his speech, I keep returning to Vances subtext here: The G.O.P. owns the mantle of American patriotism.
President Biden on Sunday proved otherwise. In deciding to drop out of the race, he ensured that history will remember him for putting country over his own aspirations in the fight to prevent the lasting damage of a second Trump presidency. Biden listened to voters and his party leaders concerns about his age and infirmity and acted.
As the editorial board wrote, Biden has now done what Trump never will: He has placed the national interest above his own pride and ambition.
Here's a gift (FREE) link to the full NYT editorial.
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)And they cant do much about it since their convention is done.
XanaDUer2
(15,772 posts)Chuckle
malaise
(296,076 posts)Their approach is now in tatters.
Timing is everything.
DownriverDem
(7,014 posts)going to sue to keep Harris from getting all the campaign money. Bull. They are even looking into making Biden resign now using the 25th ammendment. I don't get this idea since that would make Harris President. My concern is that I hope the racists and anti women voters don't win.
sarchasm
(1,308 posts)Please elaborate. I'm sure it's metaphor, but when it comes to that nazi psychopath, who knows?
links please ... just trying to get the facts.
sarchasm
(1,308 posts)ms liberty
(11,237 posts)sarchasm
(1,308 posts)But after the caffeine kicked in I realized that guy is incapable of empathy or any human emotion.