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RandySF

(87,471 posts)
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:28 PM Jul 2024

Republican FEC chair suggests Harris may not get Biden war chest

Sean Cooksey, the Trump-appointed chair of the Federal Election Commission (FEC), suggested Monday that Vice President Harris may not be able to access the millions of dollars remaining from President Biden’s campaign, which many campaign finance lawyers say is rightfully hers.

Biden shook up the 2024 presidential race Sunday when he dropped out amid concerns about his age and mental acuity and endorsed his vice president. The campaign had just under $96 million in cash on hand as of June 30, according to its most recent report to the FEC, and filed paperwork to change its name from “Biden for President” to “Harris for President” within hours of the president’s decision.

Even before the campaign filed to change its name, Harris was listed as a candidate alongside Biden on its paperwork with the FEC.

Campaign finance lawyers previously told The Hill that Harris would be able to access the funds if she becomes the nominee. Democrats have started to coalesce behind Harris, but Cooksey called the situation “complicated” and suggested it would be challenged in the agency and at the courts.

“I think it’s really complicated, is the short answer,” Cooksey told “Morning Edition” on NPR. “What he’s attempting to do is to give his entire committee, the cash and all the assets, over to another person. I think it’s gonna have to go through a process, through the FEC,” Cooksey added. “I expect, there’s probably going to be challenges to that at the agency, and probably in the courts as well.”




https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4785703-fec-chair-suggests-harris-cant-access-biden-funds/

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Republican FEC chair suggests Harris may not get Biden war chest (Original Post) RandySF Jul 2024 OP
A lot of really smart people said this wouldn't be a problem! displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #1
Yes, but republicans aren't really smart people calguy Jul 2024 #7
Of course, she was on the ticket already viva la Jul 2024 #2
The problem osteopath6 Jul 2024 #34
Which will take until the election is over Diraven Jul 2024 #39
It's only "complicated" because MontanaMama Jul 2024 #3
Becoming desperate, awwwwweeeee. Butterflylady Jul 2024 #33
Worth reading further RAB910 Jul 2024 #4
Anything they can do they will... kwolf68 Jul 2024 #5
Someone pull this asshole aside and tell him we don't cheat like they do. It's not a personality cult. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #6
The problem is Mme. Defarge Jul 2024 #8
Bullshit. She was listed alongside Biden. No lawyer I've seen interviewed who has the background & experience hlthe2b Jul 2024 #9
Good thing she raised about 2/3 of that amount yesterday. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #10
gee, one would think a repuke chairman of the FEC onethatcares Jul 2024 #11
Let me guess. SCOTUS will delay dispersing the money until, say, after the actual election. Freethinker65 Jul 2024 #12
They will file a suit and hope to get a friendly judge getagrip_already Jul 2024 #13
She's the other half of Biden/Harris... lame54 Jul 2024 #14
Yup! As savvy as President Biden and his team were..they no doubt looked at all the legal angels. They've got nothing PortTack Jul 2024 #29
Just more subterfuge. lees1975 Jul 2024 #15
And here we go Diraven Jul 2024 #16
Marc Elias very seldom uses the word guarantee, but did yesterday "I guarantee the dem nominee will be PortTack Jul 2024 #31
It says Biden-Harris Sunsky Jul 2024 #17
why are they playing these games when they have an 78 year old on their ticket? ecstatic Jul 2024 #18
they're playing these games cause they have a 78 yr old on their ticket Bucky Jul 2024 #20
Hmmm. Will they say the same thing if TFG has to drop out? haele Jul 2024 #25
Trump is old and has multiple Captain Zero Jul 2024 #36
Let's watch the public's reaction to them trying such a fast one Bucky Jul 2024 #19
Honestly, we should simply ignore any judge who tries to hold up these funds. dawg Jul 2024 #21
Bingo! PortTack Jul 2024 #32
No he can't. former9thward Jul 2024 #40
I read another article about this soandso Jul 2024 #22
So is that money where Trump wants to be reimbursed from? NameAlreadyTaken Jul 2024 #23
The remedy is simple GaYellowDawg Jul 2024 #24
Can't be fired. former9thward Jul 2024 #41
We'll get the money. In meantime, donate. Silent Type Jul 2024 #26
Maybe there's a way to launder the money through Elon Musk? Baitball Blogger Jul 2024 #27
Nice try, Sean Cooksey. DinahMoeHum Jul 2024 #28
like i have posted before, the fascists judges and appointees will use every trick in their book to help tRump ImNotGod Jul 2024 #30
Throw him in prison until he comes to his senses. Takket Jul 2024 #35
Cloud the issue then kick it to the courts for a hail mary Fullduplexxx Jul 2024 #37
Don't campaigns donate to other campaigns? odins folly Jul 2024 #38
There are limits to what can be donated. former9thward Jul 2024 #42

calguy

(6,175 posts)
7. Yes, but republicans aren't really smart people
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:33 PM
Jul 2024

This guy is a republican, and they're desperate to try anything they can think of.

viva la

(4,640 posts)
2. Of course, she was on the ticket already
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:30 PM
Jul 2024

But he can bluster and moan, and in three years probably the case will finally get into court, and there'll be a $30K fine, and President Harris will laugh.

 

osteopath6

(195 posts)
34. The problem
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:25 PM
Jul 2024

Is they are seeking an injunction to prevent the campaign from using the funds until the issue has been litigated 😤

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
4. Worth reading further
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:31 PM
Jul 2024
Democratic Commissioner Dara Lindenbaum, who chaired the commission last year, pushed back on the suggestion that Harris would not be able to access those funds.

“It’s quite clear, Vice President Harris can continue using the campaign committee and its funds,” Lindenbaum told The Hill.

Steve Roberts, former general counsel to Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, was also skeptical of Cooksey’s comments.

“This interpretation is likely wishful thinking,” Roberts told The Hill.

“Since the declarations of candidacy for 2024, the reasonable interpretation is that the Biden campaign committee is a shared one between Harris / Biden, and perhaps uniquely so because they are incumbents. Otherwise, in 2020, Trump-Pence wouldn’t have had a shared committee, but would have set up separate committees and had their own contribution limits,” he explained.

kwolf68

(8,458 posts)
5. Anything they can do they will...
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:31 PM
Jul 2024

Of course, it's OK for oligarchs to push millions into Republican coffers.

flying_wahini

(8,284 posts)
6. Someone pull this asshole aside and tell him we don't cheat like they do. It's not a personality cult.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:32 PM
Jul 2024

hlthe2b

(115,030 posts)
9. Bullshit. She was listed alongside Biden. No lawyer I've seen interviewed who has the background & experience
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:34 PM
Jul 2024

on the issue (and has looked into it) has given any credence to that MAGAT's claims.

onethatcares

(17,020 posts)
11. gee, one would think a repuke chairman of the FEC
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:36 PM
Jul 2024

would see no problem with this.

Joe should can his ass and do an acting appointment to avoid congressional stalling. You know, like the former guy did

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
12. Let me guess. SCOTUS will delay dispersing the money until, say, after the actual election.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:37 PM
Jul 2024

Complete bullshit. If Biden/Harris cannot give to Harris/"x", he should be able to return it to the donors who could then redonate the money to Harris pre-nomination. Avoid the step by having donors sign paperwork agreeing to the exchange (like in retail for exchanges; would you like one receipt or would you prefer to return the item and end that transaction, then repurchase the same item in another size, pattern, for the same price in a new transaction).

Better get this figured out pre-nomination, because I believe there is some resetting of amounts that can be donated post nomination.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
13. They will file a suit and hope to get a friendly judge
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:37 PM
Jul 2024

Who will put a stay on any spending.

That is their typical mo.

Only problem is it would have to be brought in dc and there isnt a good chance they will get a friendly judge.

The fec is toothless. They cant really do much without a ruling and they wont get one.

PortTack

(35,824 posts)
29. Yup! As savvy as President Biden and his team were..they no doubt looked at all the legal angels. They've got nothing
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:20 PM
Jul 2024

lees1975

(7,222 posts)
15. Just more subterfuge.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:41 PM
Jul 2024

She can and they know it. This is just more blabber, like trying to claim Biden has to be on the ballot instead. No one has been nominated as of today, it can be anyone they decide it will be.

Diraven

(1,964 posts)
16. And here we go
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:42 PM
Jul 2024

Even though this is a totally BS position, all they have to do is tie this up in Trump-friendly courts for a few months and the damage is done. I predict they'll try similar things to keep Harris off the President line on ballots in November, resulting in several Republican-held states not allowing votes for her at all except mybe as a write-in.

PortTack

(35,824 posts)
31. Marc Elias very seldom uses the word guarantee, but did yesterday "I guarantee the dem nominee will be
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:22 PM
Jul 2024

On the ballot in all 50 states.”

ecstatic

(35,152 posts)
18. why are they playing these games when they have an 78 year old on their ticket?
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:43 PM
Jul 2024

trump isn't exactly in the best of health. What happens if he needs to be replaced?

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
20. they're playing these games cause they have a 78 yr old on their ticket
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:45 PM
Jul 2024

If course they'll try to swindle us. That's their brand. Cheating by crooks is their principle feature.

haele

(15,691 posts)
25. Hmmm. Will they say the same thing if TFG has to drop out?
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:15 PM
Jul 2024

He's really not looking good, and he's sun-dowing rapidly.

Pretty soon he's going to have the mental capacity equivalent of that punchline in a famous Monty Python skit, if you know what I mean. The GOP appears to be doing a lot of PR juggling to try to make him seem more coherent, aware, and frankly active than he actually is. Like Morton Joe. Falling apart under his plexiglass shell and facemask.

I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't such an evil pig - man. It almost seems painful when he's being dragged out in public.

Haele

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
19. Let's watch the public's reaction to them trying such a fast one
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:43 PM
Jul 2024

If they want us righteously pissed off, let them reap the "rewards"

dawg

(10,777 posts)
21. Honestly, we should simply ignore any judge who tries to hold up these funds.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:48 PM
Jul 2024

President Biden can issue pardons if necessary.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
22. I read another article about this
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:02 PM
Jul 2024

(sorry, can't recall where) and Cooksey went on to elaborate that the money could be assigned (by Biden, I presume) to anyone. It was a list of legal constraints (FEC law) which included refunding donations and/or designating to them to someone else. My impression was somewhat complicated but still allowed but just requiring certain requirements/steps taken.

GaYellowDawg

(5,113 posts)
24. The remedy is simple
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:08 PM
Jul 2024

1. Fire the motherfucker.
2. Appoint an interim commissioner.
3. Nominate the replacement after the election.

The Supreme Court couldn't do a goddamn thing about it.

Baitball Blogger

(52,813 posts)
27. Maybe there's a way to launder the money through Elon Musk?
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:19 PM
Jul 2024

He seems to be a loophole to these financing rules.

ImNotGod

(1,300 posts)
30. like i have posted before, the fascists judges and appointees will use every trick in their book to help tRump
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:20 PM
Jul 2024

this is just the beginning.

Takket

(23,856 posts)
35. Throw him in prison until he comes to his senses.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:25 PM
Jul 2024

It’s an “official act”

I’m kidding

odins folly

(668 posts)
38. Don't campaigns donate to other campaigns?
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:42 PM
Jul 2024

If so, that fixes any issue with funds or personnel, fuck that guy….

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