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Rubyshoo

(1,959 posts)
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 05:18 PM Jul 2024

Why Biden finally quit

In addition to presenting new concerns from lawmakers and updates on a fundraising operation that had slowed considerably, they carried the campaign’s own polls, which came back this week and showed his path to victory in November was gone, according to five people familiar with the matter, who, like others interviewed for this article, were granted anonymity to discuss private conversations. Biden asked several questions during the exchange.

The only other people with Biden in the residence when he arose Sunday were first lady Jill Biden and two other trusted aides: deputy chief of staff Annie Tomasini and assistant to the first lady Anthony Bernal. At 1:45 p.m., he notified a somewhat larger group of close aides that he had decided the night before to end his quest for another term, reading his letter and thanking them for their service. A minute later, before any other campaign and White House staffers could be notified, he posted the historic letter from his campaign account on the social media site X.

The announcement, which shocked the political world, almost immediately flipped the narrative around Biden: His own party, after three weeks of deriding him privately as an isolated, deluded lion in winter dragging other Democrats down with him, was showering him with loving tributes, praising his record, career of public service and a selfless decision they said put his country first.

It wasn’t that the president had grown tired of the drip of defections from within his own party — although he had. Rather, it was that Biden himself was finally convinced of what so many other Democrats had come to believe since his poor debate performance last month: He couldn’t win.



https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106


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Why Biden finally quit (Original Post) Rubyshoo Jul 2024 OP
Politico? really? Bev54 Jul 2024 #1
Poor debate performance? cilla4progress Jul 2024 #2
It's over gab13by13 Jul 2024 #3
The why is important because: meadowlander Jul 2024 #16
Heard A Great Line Just The Other Day... Rubyshoo Jul 2024 #18
Love it. meadowlander Jul 2024 #19
Boot-up Messaging krkaufman Jul 2024 #30
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #4
I felt like that Pelosi interview was the key ITAL Jul 2024 #5
Privately? Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #6
That's what made me angry MustLoveBeagles Jul 2024 #17
That's the part that bothered and annoyed me most. wnylib Jul 2024 #21
They were working to humiliate him Bettie Jul 2024 #22
The public comments, and now the gaslighting Wicked Blue Jul 2024 #23
I can't unsee it MustLoveBeagles Jul 2024 #25
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #7
A belated welcome to Democratic Underground! femmedem Jul 2024 #8
Thank You Rubyshoo Jul 2024 #9
Thank you. I used your Kruisin With Kamala on facebook !!!!! Anyone on FB ?? Invite me to be friends. Trueblue1968 Jul 2024 #20
As Steve Koranacki said yesterday, re: " The path is gone" - That's an unknown. trump thought his path was gone in 2016 tulipsandroses Jul 2024 #10
He got perpetual hate, lies and fear mongering from day one from wrong wing sources. GreenWave Jul 2024 #11
Seems legit to me to go after the media, not just for wnylib Jul 2024 #24
What a shitty thought that didn't need to be expressed. Iris Jul 2024 #12
Biden chose country over GenThePerservering Jul 2024 #13
When you're that old, as I nearly am, always doing your best is a given usonian Jul 2024 #14
Sounds like conjecture Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #15
Yeah. They don't know. bullimiami Jul 2024 #26
And we should believe a rag like Politico why? choie Jul 2024 #27
Reality is a harsh master and the night of that debate, Biden knew he was not ready to go on, elocs Jul 2024 #28
Welp, that was the last time I vote in a primary ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #29

cilla4progress

(26,525 posts)
2. Poor debate performance?
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 05:26 PM
Jul 2024

Really?

Kamala was my 1st choice in 2019. I hope she cam win. The last 24 hours is encouraging.

I hope Dems aren't jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

meadowlander

(5,133 posts)
16. The why is important because:
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 07:15 PM
Jul 2024

1. if you call it a coup or Biden being backstabbed/ratfucked/forced out it calls into question the legitimacy of the process going forward. Why should people rally around the next person if the process that led to their nomination wasn't "legal" or was predicated on some deep personal betrayal of someone they previously supported?

2. we're less than two weeks out from an assassination attempt on a major party candidate. There are crazy people out there and we need to be tempering our language and insisting on accuracy. Because if it *is* a coup, what do "patriotic right-thinking Americans" need to do in response?

I'd love to move on and just be excited about a new nominee as much as anyone, but I think we have to be really careful about messaging and how we frame our understanding of what happened in the current political context. The Republicans will call it a coup to shit-stir and we need to have a clear and agreed counter-narrative to that.

People can feel how they feel. But not every thought needs to be expressed when it's not in our strategic best interest to do so.

 

Rubyshoo

(1,959 posts)
18. Heard A Great Line Just The Other Day...
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 07:18 PM
Jul 2024

I´ve learned not to believe everything I think.



krkaufman

(13,961 posts)
30. Boot-up Messaging
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 08:20 PM
Jul 2024

I feel like that should be the boot-up screen on every Internet-connected device.

Response to Rubyshoo (Original post)

ITAL

(1,323 posts)
5. I felt like that Pelosi interview was the key
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 05:29 PM
Jul 2024

And this piece said as much. It looked like Biden was going to survive previous to that.

wnylib

(26,017 posts)
21. That's the part that bothered and annoyed me most.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 07:27 PM
Jul 2024

I expected media harassment of Biden. They've been doing it for 3.5 years. But did not expect or like the political use of leaks to the media to be aired nonstop over and over. Bad politics and bad psychology. It only made Biden dig in harder in self defense, prolonging the issue in public. It was tacky.

But what's done is done. Time to unite against the orange old guy.

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
22. They were working to humiliate him
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 07:30 PM
Jul 2024

and now they are acting like they never did that. We saw it.

Response to Rubyshoo (Original post)

femmedem

(8,561 posts)
8. A belated welcome to Democratic Underground!
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 05:36 PM
Jul 2024

Sorry some of the posters are being snide with you. I appreciate learning that his decision was based in part on internal polling.

 

Rubyshoo

(1,959 posts)
9. Thank You
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 05:42 PM
Jul 2024

I understand everybody is upset... me too.

But Ive gone from Ridin With Biden
to
Kruisin With Kamala

(I just saw that here at DU.)

And to be honest, Iḿ starting to get excited about the next several months.


Trueblue1968

(19,251 posts)
20. Thank you. I used your Kruisin With Kamala on facebook !!!!! Anyone on FB ?? Invite me to be friends.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 07:26 PM
Jul 2024

tulipsandroses

(8,252 posts)
10. As Steve Koranacki said yesterday, re: " The path is gone" - That's an unknown. trump thought his path was gone in 2016
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 05:44 PM
Jul 2024

. The fact is, we will never know. How can anyone say that 100% certainty with over 3 months to go?
I think the reason he quit, is the reason he said - for the country, for the party. It's hard to fight trump, your own party, and STILL do your job as president. I do believe he asked for polling to see how VP Harris would do. Once he saw that she wouldn't be worse off then he made the decision to step aside to UNIFY the party so that it would not be a distraction. I am sure he was concerned about how the party seemed to be fracturing and how much damage it would do to the party. Not just his campaign.
That is the kind of man Joe Biden is.

GreenWave

(12,641 posts)
11. He got perpetual hate, lies and fear mongering from day one from wrong wing sources.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 05:45 PM
Jul 2024

The alleged good guys did not really come to his aid.

Instead lame stream was fawning over T. "Look! He picked his nose!" "Listen! He farted in court!"

wnylib

(26,017 posts)
24. Seems legit to me to go after the media, not just for
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 07:42 PM
Jul 2024

The past several weeks, but for the entire 3.5 years.

What if people posted videos on social media (but not here) of every TV host's verbal flubs and gaffes and started a non-stop online movement for them to resign? After all, they are ignoring the orange dictator's mental state, so they are not competent to do their jobs.

I saw a Justice Matters video with Glenn Kirschner visibly angry over the media blitz. He said firmly that he did not want to hear one word from them denigrating Kamala's chances, appearance, etc. If they disparage her, he said we will know where they stand politically.

Iris

(16,872 posts)
12. What a shitty thought that didn't need to be expressed.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 05:46 PM
Jul 2024

Joe has cemented his legacy and we owe him absolute respect

GenThePerservering

(3,379 posts)
13. Biden chose country over
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 05:50 PM
Jul 2024

Party and over ego. Furthermore, he and his team chose the exact right timing to announce it.

usonian

(25,325 posts)
14. When you're that old, as I nearly am, always doing your best is a given
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 07:05 PM
Jul 2024

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to make the most of your time on Earth, but the hate, threats and sadism, for you and especially, for others, weigh down on you.

We seem to be in an age when no good deed goes unpunished. Buddhists have a term for it, mappo in Japanese.

I am sure Joe conversed with advisors, some we don't see, whom many claim to follow, but don't. (You know EXACTLY what I mean) and he is doing what is best for himself, his family, the country and the world, and for the compassionate teachings he believes in, as manifest in his behavior, rather than, and even opposing, the blasphemous misuse of them.

It's a whole lot. His job is not a "desk job". He's all about the globe, and might be almost as effective, and a bit safer, and safer from Putin's poison, in a less arduous setting.

His opponent, OUR opponent, is past his prime, past senility and doesn't have the brains to realize that he never would have been shot if he were behind prison walls where he belongs, but that can be arranged.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
28. Reality is a harsh master and the night of that debate, Biden knew he was not ready to go on,
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 08:07 PM
Jul 2024

but he was determined to fight and no matter, it was a disaster because there comes the time when determination is not enough. That debate and its outcome set the stage for everything that happened afterwards and the irony is that it may just have save democracy in America for now at least but that battle will continue and it's up to us to do our part and be ready for what Trump and his maga cult deluded followers will do after Trump loses if we fight the good fight and win.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
29. Welp, that was the last time I vote in a primary
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 08:10 PM
Jul 2024

They should have been planning a graceful transition a year ago.
Damn the "progressive elites"

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