Shortest Primary Season ever? Now that Kamala Harris has the delegates...

[EarlG]

I think we have a presumptive nominee, and we should switch back to General Election Season on DU. That means Harris would be protected by DU rules, as Joe Biden was before he stepped down.

It’s late so I’ll wait until tomorrow to make an announcement, but in the meantime feel free to voice your support for or objections to this proposal.

Link to delegate news: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219220489

[DFab420]

1. Wait what about Michelle Obama??? /s

Sorry couldn’t help myself.

LFG!!

[meadowlander]

2. All good. Can we clarify what that will also mean in terms of "don't relitigate the last primary'?

Does that also include relitigating the process that led to Joe stepping aside?

[EarlG]

4. Good question

Technically it doesn’t count because what just happened wasn’t part of the primary. The primary ended back in March when Biden secured enough delegates, then he dropped out and the majority of the delegates switched to Harris.

The “Don’t keep fighting the last primary” rule is intended for use following a contested primary when members still want to go at each other after the nomination has been settled. The last time we had a contested primary was 2020, and it wasn’t very contentious. So right now, that rule just doesn’t really apply to anything.

With regard to relitigating the way this whole thing went down, I hope that DUers are able to put it behind them even if just temporarily while we work to defeat Trump. I was not a fan of the process, but I don’t want to keep going on about it right now. I’m ready to take on Trump with Kamala Harris leading the way.

Let’s work to get a Democratic president and Congress, then we can actually talk about real campaign finance reform.

[meadowlander]

7. That makes sense.

I guess my concern would be with disrupters exploiting a gap in the ToS and trying to sow division with posts harping on about how it was a coup or undemocratic or other posts that undermine the legitimacy of the process that led to Harris being the nominee. I think that's a strategy Republicans are likely to employee to depress turnout and I'm concerned that that kind of rhetoric is inflammatory and can lead to violence - because if it was a "coup" then attacking the perceived orchestrators or beneficiaries of that coup (Schiff, Pelosi, Harris, etc.) may seem like it's on the table to disturbed people.

Super keen to move on myself as I suspect that the vast majority of good faith DU contributors are. Just something to think about though as you're planning what comes next.

[EarlG]

10. I'd like to wait and see what happens

I think most people are ready, or getting ready, to move forward. If it becomes a problem, we can revisit.

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

11. I believe any talk about the process should be in its defense; and be allowed.

Defense of our Dem Leaders who helped this happen was not allowed up until a day ago.

I think we can help Democrats, and even independents, feel okay about our party and our Leaders if they can see that they were doing what needed to be done.

I think we can do a lot to reverse the undermining of turnout that occurred by allowing anger to build against our leaders, our donors and our party.

[displacedvermoter]

27. So if we talk about "it" we should talk about

it positively or not at all?

[BootinUp]

3. Agree, glad it went smoother than I expected. nt

[Cha]

5. I like this rule.. Thank You!

[spooky3]

6. Support! Nt

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

8. I believe that posting polls should be allowed, as long as they are not rag polls: even if they are unfavorable. nt

[C Moon]

23. It doesn't matter...trump is toast.

[CentralMass]

9. I think you are right. There appears to amazing party unity behind her.

[Maru Kitteh]

12. Fully support this! We need to unify and GET TO WORK!

We capitalize on this buzz of excitement and dive on in!

[canetoad]

13. HA!

Today I was thinking that, at long last, you folk are experiencing a sensibly-lengthed campaign. Not the same as us, UK and Canada, but shorter than the usual four years.

[meadowlander]

14. Amen. Kamala's rise has been Jacinda-esque.

Hope she's made of the same stuff and suspect she is.

[arthritisR_US]

15. I agree

[madaboutharry]

16. I support going back to General Election Season,

with the added prohibition of not whining about donors or what led Biden to step down.

We all need to support Team Kamala and defeat the fascists!

[redqueen]

19. Agreed - now is not the time

Get Kamala in office first, with her supermajority, and worry about the rest once they're in office.

[displacedvermoter]

28. No whiners allowed!

Got it. People are calming down and we got to start calling people names again. Great tactic.

[madaboutharry]

29. I didn't call anyone names.

I just think it is counterproductive to continue complaining about the way things unfolded. The way it all happened was upsetting to many democrats, including myself. But here we are. We now have a nominee and I think it is best to focus on the election. That is all I am saying.

[displacedvermoter]

32. If you are calling for a prohibition on

whining, that means you are pointing the finger at people who will whine, given the freedom to do so.

Means you don't trust other members to refrain from tamping down the vibe, while still being able to reasonably discuss what is still an issue that ties in to campaign finance, internal party politics, and the role of the media.

One can be pleased that Kamala Harris has the look of a winner, and still cautiously discuss any drawbacks "the process" might have, short- or long-term, as the election unfolds.

[madaboutharry]

34. I'll just leave this right here.

I am not the kind of person who needs to have the last word. But I feel the need to say that you are wrong. I am not pointing a finger at anyone. I don't distrust other members. You misread my tone. It is simply my opinion that accepting where we are and closing the door is best for the party.. Democrats need to focus their energy on looking forward. Like VP Harris said yesterday, we have an election to win.

[redqueen]

17. I'm so freaking excited! Seeing her walk out to Freedom earlier

Now I can't get that line out of my head 🥰

"Hey! I'ma keep running
'Cause a winner don't quit on themselves"

[Kaleva]

18. I agree. DU should switch to general election season.

[Layzeebeaver]

20. I support this.

Let's go!

Unleash the hounds!

Let us make November the "death of fascism" month in America!

[SunSeeker]

21. Agreed.

[Hekate]

22. Well done you, EarlG

[MyMission]

24. What about VP candidates?

Who should or shouldn't Kamala choose? Does she actually get to choose, or will party big wigs call the shots? I assume we're free to discuss these issues until a choice is made.

I agree with your decision to end our primary season discussions, but I'm interested and a bit anxious about who will be chosen as her running mate

I saw a headline here that she chose a VP but it was a "joke"

Do you think an announcement will be made before the convention?

[honest.abe]

25. LOL! Love it!

[lapfog_1]

26. if people want to complain about "big money forced him out"

or "Joe never had any cognitive or metal issue"... I guess they can post that here.

What I don't want to see anymore is attacks on Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, or any other great democrats that urged Joe to depart the race for the good of the country and the party.

Look what has happened in the last 36 hours!

[boston bean]

30. Fine by me. 😎

[MiHale]

31. Works for me...

No whiners…only winners!

[ColinC]

33. So far the only people who seem to not support Kamala are obvious trolls with one or two posts

I think not just DU, but Democrats love her! The right is terrified and likely throwing as much desperate cash into their troll farms as possible.

[Groundhawg]

35. primary season was over months ago. I voted for Biden in the primary.

[mcar]

36. Thank you!

[highplainsdem]

37. Good idea.

[Prairie Gates]

38. I'm old enough to remember when battleground state polls were the only thing that mattered

(Ah, remember last week...)