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Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:45 AM Jul 2024

Kamala Harris is not "childless"

She is a stepmother to Doug Emhoff's two children, Ella and Cole. They are not her biological children but she has been a parent to them for the past 10 years, since Cole was 20 and Ella was 14.

Sometimes parents are not beloved by their children and sometimes step parents are like in the bad stepmother fairy tales. Kamala is so beloved by her stepchildren that they gave her the nickname "Momala".

Kamala Harris is not childless.

https://people.com/all-about-kamala-harris-stepchildren-8681626

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Kamala Harris is not "childless" (Original Post) Doc Sportello Jul 2024 OP
"Momala" Kid Berwyn Jul 2024 #1
Yup, it's Yiddish. The kids are Jewish mucifer Jul 2024 #5
it is not actually Yiddish, it may be a fusion Celerity Jul 2024 #7
Spanish speaking people do the same when addressing little girls, wnylib Jul 2024 #44
Actually, they are not. madaboutharry Jul 2024 #51
Momala! I LOVE that!!! calimary Jul 2024 #26
It's like night and day. Kid Berwyn Jul 2024 #27
No shit! calimary Jul 2024 #33
Good if it helps with some voters but it shouldn't really matter imo. mobeau69 Jul 2024 #2
My reaction to this observation was "Yes, and so what if she was childless?" Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #21
The real issue is that Republican men view women as baby factories. PeaceWave Jul 2024 #31
Yes, and - Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #47
They don't really care Farmer-Rick Jul 2024 #69
still its amazing that Vance just couldn't see MadameButterfly Jul 2024 #45
It should not matter if she was/is. Some women cannot have children, some choose not to Bev54 Jul 2024 #3
Trying to correct the lie Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #4
Hard for the never-right to push 'adoption, not abortion' while dissing President-to-be Harris sanatanadharma Jul 2024 #6
She will be Momala to all of us! joanbarnes Jul 2024 #8
Like George Washington. progressoid Jul 2024 #9
Thank you Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #12
Damned good historical reference. TomSlick Jul 2024 #16
Neither did Polk, Buchanan, Harding, and Jackson. Ping Tung Jul 2024 #23
Nor did Madison Retrograde Jul 2024 #52
so serial cheater/sexual predator/rapist/pervert Donald Trump has agingdem Jul 2024 #10
LOVE this post, agingdem! calimary Jul 2024 #29
Trump hasn't given birth either! SunSeeker Jul 2024 #65
Momala -- and, she has a great relationship with their mom obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #11
Yes, that says a lot about her too Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #13
Yup, I think so, too obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #15
my kids are in their 40's Tree Lady Jul 2024 #39
Yes! Well said obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #40
madre. mamo . AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #19
It is so insulting hibbing Jul 2024 #14
I kinda suspect that's what'll happen. calimary Jul 2024 #30
Thank you, Doc SARose Jul 2024 #17
Thank you so much for this beautiful post Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #35
I'm anxiously waiting SARose Jul 2024 #37
That strategy baffles me. KentuckyWoman Jul 2024 #18
Great point we all need to remember when any office holder, potential office holder, media talker disparages... Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #20
And, lots of conservative women can't have kids, or are stepmoms, or are raising a younger sibling obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #24
Good thing he didn't disparage "Cat Ladies". BurnDoubt Jul 2024 #22
It was an absurd statement to begin with, but now it just reminds us how heartless and clueless these people are. Martin68 Jul 2024 #25
Damn fool Vance is another educated idiot, a christofascist and a power hungry bootlicker onetexan Jul 2024 #34
Any woman with a soul has children that she dreams for, even if they aren't her own. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #28
Beautifully put. AloeVera Jul 2024 #61
She is also not miserable Sanity Claws Jul 2024 #32
Lots of un-miserable women without MadameButterfly Jul 2024 #46
A much larger percentage of women I know with kids are miserable than the child free women. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #64
Lots of women have children because it is expected MadameButterfly Jul 2024 #72
Pretty sure VBNMW Jul 2024 #36
Thank you for this, Doc Sportello, elleng Jul 2024 #38
You're welcome and thank you Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #42
Thank you, Doc! summer_in_TX Jul 2024 #41
You're welcome! Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #43
Stepparents Are Parents ashaw Jul 2024 #48
Bravo! Well said. bluewater Jul 2024 #49
Yeah because those Moms For Liberty psychos have done such a great job, haven't they? Initech Jul 2024 #50
My wife is stepmother to my daughter BeyondGeography Jul 2024 #53
You're welcome Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #63
Momola's a special person in their lives. Wait oasis Jul 2024 #54
Exactly. Her kids came up with the name Momala because they didn't want to call her stepmom. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #62
And if she was? karin_sj Jul 2024 #55
I am a step parent JPPaverage Jul 2024 #56
Yeah, seemed an odd attack krkaufman Jul 2024 #57
Not all women can bear children. mzmolly Jul 2024 #58
No, she isn't childless. AloeVera Jul 2024 #59
Her stepchildren are beautiful! ViewObsessed Jul 2024 #60
So what if she was, God Damn it! CommonHumanity Jul 2024 #66
Their candidate has been married 3 times and paid a paid a porn star for sex JI7 Jul 2024 #67
The post wasn't defensive at all Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #71
seriously? poozwah Jul 2024 #68
no kamala isn't childless however jd vance is a piece of excrement. dawn5651 Jul 2024 #70

Celerity

(53,525 posts)
7. it is not actually Yiddish, it may be a fusion
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 12:16 PM
Jul 2024


Kamala, Mamale

Why do Yiddish speakers refer to children by terms of endearment seemingly meant for adults?

https://mosaicmagazine.com/observation/arts-culture/2020/11/kamala-mamale/

America’s vice-president-elect has a family nickname that she says she’s fond of. It’s “Momala,” and it rhymes with Kamala and was given her, so we’ve been told, by her two stepchildren, the children of her Jewish husband Douglas Emhoff. Whether they coined it as a fusion of Ma and Kamala, or whether they knew that—generally spelled “Mamale” or “Mamaleh”—it’s a Yiddish term of endearment for a mother, remains, according to the media, an unresolved issue.

What the media have failed to point out is the odd fact that Yiddish mamale—literally, “little mother,” a word composed of mama and the diminutive suffix –le—is used by Yiddish and Yiddish-influenced speakers more as a form of address for children than for mothers, for whom there are more common endearments. (Mamashe and mamenyu are two of them.) Hearing a woman hidden from sight in the next aisle of the supermarket say, “Mamaleh, itst koyft men nisht keyn kendy bars,” “Mamaleh, we’re not buying candy bars now,” you would be right to assume she was talking to her small daughter and not to her elderly mother.

Or else to her son. Calling a little boy mamaleh, “little mother,” is perfectly normal in Yiddish, as it is in Israeli Hebrew. The reverse, however, is not the case. Although you can also call a boy tataleh or “little father,” you would not use it for a girl. It’s similar to bubbele, “little grandmother,” the “bubbeleh” known to many American Jews and even some non-Jews as a way of saying, sometimes affectionately and sometimes dismissively, “sweetheart” or “pal.” You wouldn’t address anyone as zeydele, “little grandfather,” unless he was your grandfather for real.

Is there some deep cultural significance in all of this? Calling children “mamaleh” and “tataleh,” writes the Yiddish pundit Michael Wex, is a way of “wishing that the child grow up to have children of [his or] her own.” Leo Rosten makes the same point about bubbele as an endearment for children in his The Joys of Yiddish. It “carries the expectation,” he writes there, “that the child in the crib will one day be a grandparent.”

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wnylib

(25,355 posts)
44. Spanish speaking people do the same when addressing little girls,
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 02:43 PM
Jul 2024

especially those from Puerto Rico and Mexico. They say "mamacita," which is "little mama."

madaboutharry

(42,025 posts)
51. Actually, they are not.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:05 PM
Jul 2024

Their mother is not Jewish and they were not raised in the Jewish faith nor do they identify as Jews.

Those are simply neutral facts. I think it is important to keep the record straight.

calimary

(88,844 posts)
33. No shit!
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 01:57 PM
Jul 2024

Being a Democrat is being in touch with TODAY and TOMORROW.

Being a Republican is desperately clinging to the past - a past they remember in selective points/aspects that THEY approve of.

Ms. Toad

(38,089 posts)
21. My reaction to this observation was "Yes, and so what if she was childless?"
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 01:16 PM
Jul 2024

Same as when the Right insisted Obama was Muslim. No, and so what if he was?

It is important to push back on both assumptions: That being childless is bad, and that there is only one way to have a parent-child relationship.

I was a mother to one of my students long before I had a child of my own, as well as to an individual struggling with their gender identity in my extended faith community when both needed parents other than their own. I still (30 years later) receive mother's day cards from my daughter/former student. This is an extremely common bonding in the LGBTQ community, when we are often kicked out of our families of origin.

My spouse was a mother to our daughter from before she was born, but the legal relationship was not established until our daughter was in her 20s.

And, my daughter has some kind of parental relationship with our (originally unknown) sperm donor and his wife (and sibling relationships with their children and 3-4 other half-siblings for whom the donor was was the same.

It is important to resist attempts to denigrate any parenting choice (the choice to have no biological children, to have some, to be a parent of choice - not kin, etc.)

Ms. Toad

(38,089 posts)
47. Yes, and -
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 04:02 PM
Jul 2024

we need to call them on it and also correct both the assumption that women's only value is as a baby factory AND that parenthood only arises when one gives birth or provides the sperm that gives rise to the birth.

My reaction is partly leftover from when Obama was called a Muslim. At least initially his response was limited to, "no, I'm not" without correcting the implied assumption that there was something wrong with being Muslim.

Farmer-Rick

(12,402 posts)
69. They don't really care
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:23 AM
Jul 2024

Hillary had a child. They treated her like crap.

So as a women in the right wing cult, you have to have children. But if you do, they won't treat you any better for it.


MadameButterfly

(3,724 posts)
45. still its amazing that Vance just couldn't see
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 03:41 PM
Jul 2024

Kamala's or Pete Buttigieg's children because they didn't fit Vance's idea of a traditional family.

In politics it has long been required even of men to have children and kiss a lot of babies. But women have been in the much more impossible situation of having to be supermoms while running super-careers to be considered both human. and qualified.

Male politicians often shunt child rearing off to their wives and don't have the challenge of the double role. Trump is an extreme example. Ivana said of their young children that Donald "didn't know what to do with them." He doesn't have the capacity to love as children need to be loved no matter how many babies he has sired.

Bev54

(13,147 posts)
3. It should not matter if she was/is. Some women cannot have children, some choose not to
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:47 AM
Jul 2024

It is not a prerequisite for any job.

sanatanadharma

(4,075 posts)
6. Hard for the never-right to push 'adoption, not abortion' while dissing President-to-be Harris
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:53 AM
Jul 2024

All that save the child, adopt a child desire for how things should be, requires voluntary motherhood, not biological stretch marks.

Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
12. Thank you
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 12:22 PM
Jul 2024

The post was not meant in any way to disparage women who choose not to have children. I'm a male who never wanted kids. The point basically here is that she chose to be an excellent parent to two children who weren't hers in the biologial sense. That to me is just another positive character trait to add to an already long list that she possesses.

Ping Tung

(4,119 posts)
23. Neither did Polk, Buchanan, Harding, and Jackson.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 01:23 PM
Jul 2024

I reckon it's OK for male presidents to not have kids but a big indication that a woman would not be a good president without bearing children of her own.

Misogyny is OK with Repugs.

Retrograde

(11,370 posts)
52. Nor did Madison
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:05 PM
Jul 2024

he helped raise his wife's son from her first marriage.

Harding did have a daughter by Nan Britton: she was supposedly conceived in the White House. Harding's wife was not pleased, which gave rise to rumors that she had him poisoned during his West Coast tour. Garfield also had an acknowledged child before he married, and before he was elected - he won despite his opponents adopting the slogan "Ma, ma, where's my pa?"

agingdem

(8,753 posts)
10. so serial cheater/sexual predator/rapist/pervert Donald Trump has
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 12:18 PM
Jul 2024

5 children by 3 different women, slept with and then paid off a porn star, had a relationship with a former Playboy Bunny, joined Jeffrey Epstein in his pursuit of underage girls, and wants to date his daughter...and that's ok... but Kamala Harris, an accomplished attorney/former California Attorney General/U.S. Senator/Vice President of the United States and current Democratic nominee for President of the United States, is not qualified to occupy the Oval Office because she hasn't given birth...right?..Welcome to the 1950s'!!!

obamanut2012

(29,134 posts)
11. Momala -- and, she has a great relationship with their mom
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 12:20 PM
Jul 2024

Who also attended the 2020 Inauguration.

Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
13. Yes, that says a lot about her too
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 12:23 PM
Jul 2024

And about the first wife that they can have a positive relationship.

obamanut2012

(29,134 posts)
15. Yup, I think so, too
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 12:30 PM
Jul 2024

The kids say that there is healthy co-parenting. People on here and other places act like your kids aren't your kids after 18, and just disappear into the world alone.

Tree Lady

(12,972 posts)
39. my kids are in their 40's
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 02:32 PM
Jul 2024

and on my mind at least a few times a day, sending a quick text to stay in touch at least every few days.

They still need a ear to listen and now that I am older love to give me advice, lol.

calimary

(88,844 posts)
30. I kinda suspect that's what'll happen.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 01:53 PM
Jul 2024

Just got a feeling about it. For whatever that's worth.

I am SOOOO eager for my granddaughters to see this, even as young as they are. It'll happen IN THEIR LIFETIME. And it won't be some strange and/or unusual thing. Any more than having a non-white guy as President for two terms.

It's time to turn the page. Let the new era begin!

SARose

(1,822 posts)
17. Thank you, Doc
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 12:58 PM
Jul 2024

I am a stepmother going on 48 years now. Yes they are my kids, too. Do they call me Mama? Nope. They had a Mama. I told them years ago that I was not there to be their Mother but to be an advocate for them. I have many, many secrets I will take to my grave because they trusted me.

I bathed them, read to them, bought clothes for them, had tickle, pillow and water balloon fights, fed them, pray for and love them.

I told them a long time ago they may not be the children of my body - they are the children of my heart.

Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
35. Thank you so much for this beautiful post
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 02:06 PM
Jul 2024

The point of me posting was that her being a great stepmom shows a lot about her character. And yes she is a parent, just like you are. Your tale shows what a great parent you have been as a stepmother and I have no doubt they are appreciative to have you in their lives.
This reminds me of Lincoln's relationship to his stepmother Sarah. He said that any kindness he had in him was due in large part to his stepmother.

KentuckyWoman

(7,365 posts)
18. That strategy baffles me.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 01:01 PM
Jul 2024

JD Vance is raising kids he didn't birth either. I mean I realize the GOP is full of everything that comes off the stable floor. But... wow.

Attilatheblond

(8,123 posts)
20. Great point we all need to remember when any office holder, potential office holder, media talker disparages...
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 01:13 PM
Jul 2024

...any woman who hasn't given birth!

Just say "Well then, show me ONE male pol or talking head who has given birth. If they haven't given birth, they should be disqualified too by your birth mom requirement".

obamanut2012

(29,134 posts)
24. And, lots of conservative women can't have kids, or are stepmoms, or are raising a younger sibling
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 01:26 PM
Jul 2024

To him, they are not actually moms, and have no stake in this country.

BurnDoubt

(1,362 posts)
22. Good thing he didn't disparage "Cat Ladies".
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 01:20 PM
Jul 2024

We forget the discourse level in "Murkkka" is set to Third Grade by Magalomaniacs.--- They just can't help being obsessed with the Female Reproductive system. Oh yeah... Third Grade... I forgot! Apologies to Third Graders everywhere. Take heart... you can still matriculate. Please Do!!!!!

Martin68

(26,933 posts)
25. It was an absurd statement to begin with, but now it just reminds us how heartless and clueless these people are.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 01:30 PM
Jul 2024

How do we lose to such a rotten bunch of losers?

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
34. Damn fool Vance is another educated idiot, a christofascist and a power hungry bootlicker
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 01:58 PM
Jul 2024

Sanity Claws

(22,322 posts)
32. She is also not miserable
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 01:57 PM
Jul 2024

Vance said something about childless women with cats living miserable lives. But you look at Kamala and she has a great laugh and is enjoying her life. The ones who looks miserable are 45 and Vance. They look angry and are totally unable to give a genuine laugh.

MadameButterfly

(3,724 posts)
46. Lots of un-miserable women without
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 03:43 PM
Jul 2024

children and or men to justify their existence. This is hard for narcissistic men who have wives as child-nurses to understand.

SunSeeker

(57,435 posts)
64. A much larger percentage of women I know with kids are miserable than the child free women.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:06 PM
Jul 2024

And the reason is obvious. Moms have 2 full time jobs. The men in their lives, even when progressive, never truly share the work at home. Not even close.

MadameButterfly

(3,724 posts)
72. Lots of women have children because it is expected
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:14 PM
Jul 2024

and thought there are couples who can't have children, women who choose not to have children because they want to pursue other things tend often have some compelling reasons. They've made an independent choice, not the expected choice.

These are all generalizations, obviously. Deciding peoples happiness based on their family structure is probably pretty innaccurate.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
38. Thank you for this, Doc Sportello,
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 02:31 PM
Jul 2024

and a tangent, tho not directly relevant to VPotus' situation:

Many families in similar situations chose to adopt, so the mother is not a 'step.' (This occurred in my family; my and my brother's 'birth-mother' died when she was young, leaving Dad with full parenting responsibilties for 2 young children.)

Dad was fortunate enough to meet a kind, intelligent and willing woman a few years later. They/we married, and thereafter she adopted us; hence not a 'step.'


Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
42. You're welcome and thank you
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 02:40 PM
Jul 2024

I appreciate the stories of you and another person here relating their personal experience with this situation. I related the story of Lincoln's stepmother Sarah and the crucial impact she and her kindness had on him, and most likely our nation as he navigated it through the Civil War. Obviously your adopted mother had a similar impact on you.

summer_in_TX

(4,007 posts)
41. Thank you, Doc!
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 02:35 PM
Jul 2024

Very helpful for those of us who want to counter misinformation with positive truths.

ashaw

(5 posts)
48. Stepparents Are Parents
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 04:42 PM
Jul 2024

Thank you for writing this post. My stepdad has been present for the most important events in our family's life. He was there for my wedding, when my children were born, and we are fortunate to live close by, so we can see him and my mom every week for breakfast. My stepdad has been there for when we were mourning the loss of someone close in my husband's family after that person had gone through a long, painful illness. I admire VP Harris for her role as a mother because stepparents are parents. They support, care, and comfort as any biological parent would do.

BeyondGeography

(40,791 posts)
53. My wife is stepmother to my daughter
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:17 PM
Jul 2024

They have an incredible relationship. When Kamala says she was crazy about Doug but the kids reeled her in that really resonated with me. I’m sure that seeing him as a loving parent did nothing but enhance their relationship and her feelings for his kids.

So many people are in this situation and have had their lives enriched by a stepchild or stepparent, you wonder who the audience is for this nonsense. A lot of people are immediately offended by it. And when Doug’s kids take the stage next month to sing Momala’s praises the whole world will see what a miscalculation Vance made here.

Thanks for the thread, Doc.

Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
63. You're welcome
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:02 PM
Jul 2024

It's been gratifying hearing from people like you in this situation. I was just thinking about how great it would be to see them as the First Family. Divorce and remarriage, a POC step mom, a Jewish husband and two children who have two wonderful moms who co-parent. In other words, a reflection of America as it really is. It will be inspiring to see Ella and Cole talk about Kamala. I think they will be a hit with America.

oasis

(53,297 posts)
54. Momola's a special person in their lives. Wait
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:17 PM
Jul 2024

until she accepts the nomination and they embrace her on stage. The audience will go wild with enthusiasm.

SunSeeker

(57,435 posts)
62. Exactly. Her kids came up with the name Momala because they didn't want to call her stepmom.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:00 PM
Jul 2024

It's so touching. I love it. ❤️

Plus Kamala is friends with their mom, Douglas' ex-wife. It really shows Kamala's character, doing what's best for the kids. I'm not sure I could do that.

karin_sj

(1,306 posts)
55. And if she was?
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:23 PM
Jul 2024

So freaking what??! Are women of a certain age required to have children? Ridiculous!

JPPaverage

(620 posts)
56. I am a step parent
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:02 PM
Jul 2024

I have a step daughter who came as a package deal, so to speak, with her mom. I have raised her as my own since she was 4 years old. Shes now a teen and is being difficult, as teens often are. But she still calls me dad and she seeks a lot of advice from me.
I guess the point of all this is that step kids are taken care of and nurtured by the step parents as if they (the kids) were our own. So Kamala Harris is not "childless" like the magats say. Just tell me or TJO, my child, that the parents are "childless." Magats can kiss my ass. On second thought, i don't want their body parts making contact with my body.

krkaufman

(13,957 posts)
57. Yeah, seemed an odd attack
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 07:01 PM
Jul 2024

Whatever benefit they thought that they’d get from it, it seems like they didn’t bother contemplating how many step-moms and step-dads are out there. I mean, I know I wouldn’t be pleased to have some politician driving a wedge between me and my kids, devaluing our relationship.

mzmolly

(52,585 posts)
58. Not all women can bear children.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 08:10 PM
Jul 2024

Not all women want children. This is such a ridiculous talking point by R's.

I agree that step-parents are as, or more beloved than biological parents depending upon the circumstances.

AloeVera

(3,944 posts)
59. No, she isn't childless.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 08:32 PM
Jul 2024

He would call me childless too, and that would be ridiculous and insulting. I raised two boys not biologically mine but I am their Mom because that is how they see me and they showed it by choosing to stay with me. Parenthood is so much more than biology. If they call her Momala, no better proof they see her the same way. She is a parent.

CommonHumanity

(338 posts)
66. So what if she was, God Damn it!
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:37 PM
Jul 2024

Is the fact that she qualifies a friggin' badge of honor. What the hell? Why is this even a topic. I'm careful to be polite on this site, but this offends me!

JI7

(93,113 posts)
67. Their candidate has been married 3 times and paid a paid a porn star for sex
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 12:15 AM
Jul 2024

while his wife was pregnant.

We aren't the ones that need to be defensive.

Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
71. The post wasn't defensive at all
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 10:07 AM
Jul 2024

It was about modern families such as hers being different than what the MAGAts want, but moreso about how great she has been as a person coming into that situation and making it a success. She loves those kids and they love her too. She is to be admired for that. A few here did get reflexively defensive and basically misunderstood the purpose of the post. I've written in responses about the post and it's up to 245 recs so I think the majority got it.

poozwah

(390 posts)
68. seriously?
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 06:08 AM
Jul 2024

what the hell does it matter? small minded maggats have nothing other than nonsense such as this.

dawn5651

(743 posts)
70. no kamala isn't childless however jd vance is a piece of excrement.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:35 AM
Jul 2024

would he have said this to a man who was running for president...no
when will the republican male realize that no woman would have said to a male he is childless.
having children isn't a measure of you as a human being...having children is because you want them

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