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Allow President Biden His Dignity (Original Post) lame54 Jul 2024 OP
No one but Magats could possibly want otherwise Sucha NastyWoman Jul 2024 #1
Except for the threads on this sight lame54 Jul 2024 #2
Lots of surprising crap here the past month. we can do it Jul 2024 #8
I only saw one thread, newdayneeded Jul 2024 #15
glad i haven't seen them. barbtries Jul 2024 #26
Example? SharonClark Jul 2024 #30
Only an idiot or troll would suggest Biden quit the presidency. XRubicon Jul 2024 #31
I believe he has a great deal he can get displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #3
I encourage him to make a weekly campaign appearance Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #4
I don't give a fuck who is calling for what. onecaliberal Jul 2024 #19
Er...He Sounded Fine at a bunch of Post-Debate Events electric_blue68 Jul 2024 #40
+1,000 malaise Jul 2024 #5
Not only that, resigning now would be monumentally foolish. Tommy Carcetti Jul 2024 #6
Bingo! Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #16
Are you demanding that he go full term? How un-Democratic. usonian Jul 2024 #7
Not to mention, Ms Harris does not need the distraction of being sworn in right now... Wounded Bear Jul 2024 #9
Really She's a Cha Jul 2024 #14
I agree. He deserves it. nt ecstatic Jul 2024 #10
We deserve it too! StarryNite Jul 2024 #20
It's not even about that. President Biden was and is a great President meadowlander Jul 2024 #11
Joe Biden is STILL our President until Inauguration Day... Clouds Passing Jul 2024 #12
Any suggestion to the contrary is ABSURD. Bleacher Creature Jul 2024 #13
It's not just about his dignity. StarryNite Jul 2024 #17
Let's not about Reagan BidenRocks Jul 2024 #18
Wow... I Thought That Went Without Saying Rubyshoo Jul 2024 #21
Biden has his dignity - it is not anyone's to take from him. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #22
And pretend people aren't publicly floating the idea lame54 Jul 2024 #23
People can float what they want. It has nothing to do with Biden's dignity. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #27
It has something to do with my response... lame54 Jul 2024 #28
Anyone whose dignity depends on what others do or say, Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #41
The gall of some people... lame54 Jul 2024 #42
Are you the only one reading this GQP SharonClark Jul 2024 #32
... lame54 Jul 2024 #33
Pretty much everyone who responded choie Jul 2024 #35
Thanks for sharing that one post. SharonClark Jul 2024 #36
You only asked for one... lame54 Jul 2024 #37
Some people don't think things through. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #24
Agree, though I wouldn't mind letting her start some of her own projects Rstrstx Jul 2024 #39
Absolutely. barbtries Jul 2024 #25
Mostly right wing pundits are pushing this. Farmer-Rick Jul 2024 #29
Of course and without question choie Jul 2024 #34
If it would help Kamala win, I'd want Joe to resign onandup Jul 2024 #38
Kamala is dealing with old man Potter now, Biden BrightKnight Jul 2024 #43
Biden should finish his term wildflowergardener Jul 2024 #44
He'll kill it tonight... lame54 Jul 2024 #45
Filling a 24 hour news cycle can be a challenge, especially for some of the people running those outlets today. lees1975 Jul 2024 #46
No time for complacency... lame54 Jul 2024 #47

displacedvermoter

(4,411 posts)
3. I believe he has a great deal he can get
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 03:59 PM
Jul 2024

done now that running for reelection is no longer taking up critical time. I don't think it is a question of letting him finish his term. I believe there are still important things he plans on accomplishing.

History -- if we still keep track of it in a few years -- will be very kind to that man.

Frasier Balzov

(5,052 posts)
4. I encourage him to make a weekly campaign appearance
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 04:09 PM
Jul 2024

by phone and video.

To see and hear him healthy will quiet calls for him to turn over the Presidency prematurely.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
19. I don't give a fuck who is calling for what.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:56 PM
Jul 2024

Nothing he does is good enough. Leave him the fuck alone.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,494 posts)
6. Not only that, resigning now would be monumentally foolish.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 04:15 PM
Jul 2024

There's no way a VP would be confirmed in that short a time, given Congress, and that means Speaker of the House Mike Johnson would be next in the line of succession.

usonian

(25,120 posts)
7. Are you demanding that he go full term? How un-Democratic.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 04:32 PM
Jul 2024

IT’S HIS CHOICE

(Sarcastically and not sarcastically)

Wounded Bear

(64,293 posts)
9. Not to mention, Ms Harris does not need the distraction of being sworn in right now...
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 04:36 PM
Jul 2024

Pres Biden finishes his term and VP Harris runs her campaign.



meadowlander

(5,129 posts)
11. It's not even about that. President Biden was and is a great President
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 04:40 PM
Jul 2024

and is entirely capable and fit to serve out the next six months. He doesn't need a pity endorsement to finish out his term.

The question was always whether or not he had the energy to be President at the same time as he had to run the kind of campaign he needed to to beat Trump and then do the hardest job in the world until he was 86 given that he is clearly starting to feel the effects of time.

You can think "probably not" on the second proposition without conceding the first (that he's unfit for office now).

Clouds Passing

(7,894 posts)
12. Joe Biden is STILL our President until Inauguration Day...
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 04:44 PM
Jul 2024

Then we will inaugurate President-Elect Kamela Harris

Bleacher Creature

(11,504 posts)
13. Any suggestion to the contrary is ABSURD.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 04:52 PM
Jul 2024

When a star athlete decides that he or she is going to retire at the end of the season nobody pushes them to immediately quit. The same holds true for Biden.

StarryNite

(12,105 posts)
17. It's not just about his dignity.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:55 PM
Jul 2024

We need him to keep working for the betterment of our country. Kamala can focus on the election.

 

Rubyshoo

(1,959 posts)
21. Wow... I Thought That Went Without Saying
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:01 PM
Jul 2024

But then, common sense is now an oxymoron, so...



Ms. Toad

(38,598 posts)
22. Biden has his dignity - it is not anyone's to take from him.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:04 PM
Jul 2024

Whether he chooses to complete his term - or not - has nothing to do with dignity. It has to do with an assessment only he, his doctors, his family, and close advisor can make. I trust him to make that assessment.

Ms. Toad

(38,598 posts)
27. People can float what they want. It has nothing to do with Biden's dignity.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:25 PM
Jul 2024

No one can take your dignity but you.

Ms. Toad

(38,598 posts)
41. Anyone whose dignity depends on what others do or say,
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 07:41 PM
Jul 2024

never had it to lose in the first place. And Biden has dignity in spades.

lame54

(39,716 posts)
42. The gall of some people...
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 07:46 PM
Jul 2024

I tried to speak highly of President Biden
Fuck me with a hockey stick
I'll never do that again
Lesson learned
Thank you for showing me the light

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
24. Some people don't think things through.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:12 PM
Jul 2024

Biden stepping aside and Harris ascending to the presidency would look like she's being gifted the office and that is never good optics. Unless you have an ironclad reason for Biden to step down, as in a legitimate health reason, you're just asking for a massive distraction that will suck all the air out of the campaign and very possibly turn voters against her.

Rstrstx

(1,647 posts)
39. Agree, though I wouldn't mind letting her start some of her own projects
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 07:07 PM
Jul 2024

Something that people have been very concerned with, like inflation

barbtries

(31,301 posts)
25. Absolutely.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:23 PM
Jul 2024

No fucking way should he step down before his term is over. Harris needs to be campaigning, not governing right now, for starters.

Are we hearing more bullshit about the president?! aargh

Farmer-Rick

(12,635 posts)
29. Mostly right wing pundits are pushing this.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:29 PM
Jul 2024

Because it would tie up any new VP appoint approval in Congress. They would never approve any VP pick of Kamala's.

She doesn't need their approval for VP pick this way. And Biden with all his lame duck, presidential immunity, can keep the Supremes from unconstitutionally throwing Kamala's win to the angry Pedo who wants to be king.

 

onandup

(701 posts)
38. If it would help Kamala win, I'd want Joe to resign
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 07:03 PM
Jul 2024

I'll leave it to the experts if that's the case. That's what matters.

BrightKnight

(3,684 posts)
43. Kamala is dealing with old man Potter now, Biden
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:35 AM
Jul 2024

doesn’t need to carry it all on his shoulders.

Nobody has ever accused Biden of lacking dignity.

wildflowergardener

(1,029 posts)
44. Biden should finish his term
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 01:09 PM
Jul 2024

People are believing the right wing and media lies that he has cognitive issues which it is clear from his many speeches over the past week his does not. No he should not step down.

lees1975

(7,038 posts)
46. Filling a 24 hour news cycle can be a challenge, especially for some of the people running those outlets today.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 01:24 PM
Jul 2024

Vocabulary not strong, speaking skills weak, no critical thinking, takes its toll, so they have to make up stuff to talk about.

Biden isn't going anywhere. He will finish his term at noon on the day President Harris is inaugurated. She will remain in charge of counting and certifying the electoral votes.

I'd have military units on hand for that. But what I'm waiting to see is if a state like Florida flips, which it very well could, will they certify their electors or try to cheat?

lame54

(39,716 posts)
47. No time for complacency...
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 01:27 PM
Jul 2024

There will be a 3 month hurricane of shit thrown against the wall

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