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Cattledog

(6,656 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:40 PM Jul 2024

Why I think Mark Kelly will be the V.P. choice.

1. US Navy Captain & fighter pilot. Flew combat missions.

2. Astronaut. Piloted the Space Shuttle.

3. Married to Gabby Giffords who was shot in an assassination attempt

4. From a border state.


Combat vet negates Vance saying he was a Marine.

Military experience will help attract white male voters.

His wife actually took a bullet.

Being from a border state he has immigration bonafides.

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Why I think Mark Kelly will be the V.P. choice. (Original Post) Cattledog Jul 2024 OP
The only draw back to Kelly as VP is that BlueGreenLady Jul 2024 #1
It won't - replacement will be appointed by Dem governor AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2024 #6
Temporarily. former9thward Jul 2024 #26
In 2026 AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2024 #31
Yes, posters keep saying four years. former9thward Jul 2024 #32
Giving up so quickly? Are you saying we can't win that seat in 2026? Cattledog Jul 2024 #33
If you want to take the risk, that is your position. former9thward Jul 2024 #39
Dem Gov will appoint another Dem to fill out the rest of his term. 2 years. Cattledog Jul 2024 #12
He was re-elected in 2022, so another 4 years OnDoutside Jul 2024 #21
Two years. former9thward Jul 2024 #28
No. It's not worth it. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #36
Katie Hobbs will choose the replacement and they'll OnDoutside Jul 2024 #13
No, 2 years. former9thward Jul 2024 #29
Actually you are correct OnDoutside Jul 2024 #34
Two years--2026 and then again in 2028 pinkstarburst Jul 2024 #47
As happened in Georgia with Warnock. GreenWave Jul 2024 #51
Yes you are correct OnDoutside Jul 2024 #58
Political Thinkers online are suggesting that Kamala's VP needs to BlueGreenLady Jul 2024 #22
It'll probably be a governor BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #25
Shapiro! onecaliberal Jul 2024 #53
That would be a foolish choice. We need the Dem senate seats. nt Phoenix61 Jul 2024 #2
Mark Kelly would be a wonderful VP pick, but we really need him in the Senate at the moment. BComplex Jul 2024 #3
He'll probably be a good pick calguy Jul 2024 #4
Shapiro's the best choice. Xavier Breath Jul 2024 #7
He's my pick because he's such a strong speaker calguy Jul 2024 #17
Agree...just read too that there would be a shift in policy towards Gaza/israel. That to me, that hints she is leaning PortTack Jul 2024 #37
Shapiro brings PA ECV and supports PA Senate race bucolic_frolic Jul 2024 #18
I believe the Democratic Governor would name his replacement PlanetBev Jul 2024 #5
This is true AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2024 #9
I've been pointing that out and the replacement would get OnDoutside Jul 2024 #23
Two years. former9thward Jul 2024 #30
You're correct, I just looked it up hauckeye Jul 2024 #16
And they would have to run again 2 years later in 2026 pinkstarburst Jul 2024 #48
"Barely won the seat"? He beat McSally by 2 1/2 points and was relected against Masters by 5 LongtimeAZDem Jul 2024 #59
I think Mark Kelly would be a great choice. madaboutharry Jul 2024 #8
Shapiro Joe Cool Jul 2024 #10
Possibly. orange jar Jul 2024 #11
Shapiro is perfect because he's so good on his feet. Likable! lindysalsagal Jul 2024 #55
Too much "west coast". We need a "rust belter". honest.abe Jul 2024 #14
Arizona is NOT west coast AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2024 #19
Yeah, but to "rust belters" they are. honest.abe Jul 2024 #20
Probably more seen as a border state ? OnDoutside Jul 2024 #24
This - and I think that's why he will be good AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2024 #38
He was born and raised in NJ and was in the Navy until 2011. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #40
Got it.. thanks for the clarification. honest.abe Jul 2024 #43
self delete honest.abe Jul 2024 #43
dupe. self delete honest.abe Jul 2024 #45
I read that they met at a conference in China. 😉 Quakerfriend Jul 2024 #54
So he was likely living "wherever" LeftInTX Jul 2024 #56
I'd love to see Gabby Giffords become 2nd Lady. Crunchy Frog Jul 2024 #15
Besides, Mark Kelly has name recognition. If someone doesn't know him just say, the astronaut. Srkdqltr Jul 2024 #27
Dems could hold onto Kelly's seat until at least 2026. IMHO, beating Dump is more important than what might happen in still-prayin4rain Jul 2024 #35
Democrat-lite is not needed or wanted krawhitham Jul 2024 #41
Looks like Kelly votes 95% with Biden and Elizabeth Warren votes 96% with Biden..if I am reading these links correctly. still-prayin4rain Jul 2024 #42
I'm In DET Jul 2024 #46
Well said Wavelight Jul 2024 #50
I still want Al Franken. Emile Jul 2024 #49
He would be a wise choice Innocent Smith Jul 2024 #52
A Biden type Catholic to offset Vance's fascist Catholic arlyellowdog Jul 2024 #57
Gabby Giffords did NOT "take a bullet"; she survived being shot brooklynite Jul 2024 #60

BlueGreenLady

(2,887 posts)
1. The only draw back to Kelly as VP is that
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:41 PM
Jul 2024

it might loose the Dem's a Senate seat- We cannot afford that.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
6. It won't - replacement will be appointed by Dem governor
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:44 PM
Jul 2024

And has to be a Democrat per AZ law.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
39. If you want to take the risk, that is your position.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:11 PM
Jul 2024

That did not work out so well in 2022 when we lost the House and Biden's legislation was stopped for the last half of his term.

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
21. He was re-elected in 2022, so another 4 years
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:51 PM
Jul 2024

Kelly won reelection in the November 2022 general election, defeating Republican challenger Blake Masters

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
36. No. It's not worth it.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:02 PM
Jul 2024

There will be a special election in 2026, a midterm that historically hinders the party in power, and I don't know if there's as valuable of a candidate in Arizona who could win like Kelly. He's literally a fucking astronaut and he still eked out victory two years ago.

He's too valuable and we can lock that seat in for at least four more years without risking losing it prematurely.

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
13. Katie Hobbs will choose the replacement and they'll
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:46 PM
Jul 2024

have 4 years before standing for re-election.

BlueGreenLady

(2,887 posts)
22. Political Thinkers online are suggesting that Kamala's VP needs to
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:51 PM
Jul 2024

come from a Swing state and would better it be a Governor rather than risk a Senate seat. Gov Shapiro from PA or
Gov. Andy Beshear from KY are being bandied about.

BannonsLiver

(20,594 posts)
25. It'll probably be a governor
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:55 PM
Jul 2024

Yes, a Dem would appoint Kelly’s replacement but why tempt fate when you can pick a gov. Senate races are nationalized now and are harder to win than gubernatorial races.

BComplex

(9,913 posts)
3. Mark Kelly would be a wonderful VP pick, but we really need him in the Senate at the moment.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:43 PM
Jul 2024

We need a majority in the Senate for Kamala to be able to get her agenda turned into law.

calguy

(6,154 posts)
4. He'll probably be a good pick
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:43 PM
Jul 2024

I haven't heard him speak, but I've heard Shapiro, and he gets my nod at the present time. That being said, Kamala has many good choices from our deep bench, so I don't think she'll be able to make a bad pick.

calguy

(6,154 posts)
17. He's my pick because he's such a strong speaker
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:48 PM
Jul 2024

plus he puts Pennsylvania comfortably in our column so we can spend our resources on closer, harder to win states, like Georgia, Arizona, and possibly even Florida.

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
37. Agree...just read too that there would be a shift in policy towards Gaza/israel. That to me, that hints she is leaning
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:04 PM
Jul 2024

Towards Shapiro…he’s Jewish and they wouldn’t want him to be stuck with difficult FP questions…makes sense

bucolic_frolic

(55,133 posts)
18. Shapiro brings PA ECV and supports PA Senate race
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:49 PM
Jul 2024

Haven't seen polling on Casey v. McCormick race

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
23. I've been pointing that out and the replacement would get
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:53 PM
Jul 2024

4 years before facing reelection.

pinkstarburst

(2,020 posts)
48. And they would have to run again 2 years later in 2026
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 07:16 PM
Jul 2024

Mark Kelly barely won the seat with all of his star power. AZ is not an easy state to win in for democrats. There is no guarantee we would hold onto that seat. It's a huge risk giving up that seat and there's really no need to take it--there are other good VP candidates.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,516 posts)
59. "Barely won the seat"? He beat McSally by 2 1/2 points and was relected against Masters by 5
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:04 PM
Jul 2024

Those are awesome numbers for a Democrat in Arizona.

madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
8. I think Mark Kelly would be a great choice.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:45 PM
Jul 2024

He is my favorite. Kamala has other choices as well. It is a deep bench of great possibilities. We will find out soon.

orange jar

(878 posts)
11. Possibly.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:45 PM
Jul 2024

It's very likely. I trust Harris to choose the person who is best qualified to serve. But the more I consider it, the more I lean toward Shapiro.

Maybe he's too obvious, but I just have a strong feeling it will be him. I also really like Beshear as a possible contender.

lindysalsagal

(22,910 posts)
55. Shapiro is perfect because he's so good on his feet. Likable!
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 07:39 PM
Jul 2024

He melts on contact. We need that speed right now!

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
38. This - and I think that's why he will be good
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:04 PM
Jul 2024

Harris is going to be attacked on Border issues. Having someone who worked on the border bill should shore that up.
And he has some of the strongest gun control bonafides in the party.

LeftInTX

(34,286 posts)
40. He was born and raised in NJ and was in the Navy until 2011.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:12 PM
Jul 2024

He married Gabby in 2007. I don't know where they met? Was he stationed in AZ?

I believe his twin brother resides in Houston.

So, he was in the military for 25 years. He's kinda been all over.

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
43. Got it.. thanks for the clarification.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:52 PM
Jul 2024

However, I still think he wont be it. We need a rust belt gov.

LeftInTX

(34,286 posts)
56. So he was likely living "wherever"
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 07:42 PM
Jul 2024

I really don't see him as tied to a geographical area. Military brats are all over the place.

Obama was from IL, but he was really from Hawaii. I think that gave him an edge in other locales. The right tried to depict him as a "Chicago style politician", but he really wasn't.

Srkdqltr

(9,759 posts)
27. Besides, Mark Kelly has name recognition. If someone doesn't know him just say, the astronaut.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:57 PM
Jul 2024

He is most known

still-prayin4rain

(525 posts)
35. Dems could hold onto Kelly's seat until at least 2026. IMHO, beating Dump is more important than what might happen in
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:02 PM
Jul 2024

2026. I think Kelly would be an excellent choice for a number of reasons and EVERYBODY loves astronauts.

krawhitham

(5,072 posts)
41. Democrat-lite is not needed or wanted
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:24 PM
Jul 2024

He's one of our least reliable votes in the Senate

Of the 51 people that caucus with Democrats, he ranks 46th


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/

DET

(2,499 posts)
46. I'm In
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 07:12 PM
Jul 2024

I think Mark Kelly would be a great choice as a counterbalance to what many will call the ‘extreme liberalism’ of Kamala Harris. Kelly should appeal to moderate Democrats and independents, especially men. He has name recognition and hero status and he’s a personable guy. Plus his wife would be a living example of the need for gun control. And his devotion to his injured wife would appeal to women as a counterbalance to the toxic masculinity that women are sick of. I don’t think we can really go wrong with any of the names that have been floated, but we really need to be strategic and pragmatic with the VP pick. Mark Kelly would be a good choice.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
60. Gabby Giffords did NOT "take a bullet"; she survived being shot
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:17 PM
Jul 2024

“Taking a bullet” refers to putting yourself in the path of a bullet to prevent someone else from being shot.

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