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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsanyone care to wager that tsf will drop out? fake a health crisis? too many ppl talking about epstein.
i honestly dont think hell make it to nov as a candidate.
the level of pressure hes under, perhaps the big macs will catch up to him. but the whole party is shitting their pants.
remember- hes gotten away w being a pedo cuz so many of them r pedos, too. i think ppl will start connecting those dots.
stopdiggin
(15,560 posts)drop out? Yeah - I'll take a fair chunk of that.
We're stuck with him for a while.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)Hes the easiest to beat.
Omnipresent
(7,495 posts)Its the only way he can try to redeem his 2020 loss.
Not to mention, slowing and stopping his criminal lawsuits.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)also, were about to decimate the whole party. itll b every man for himself soon.
drray23
(8,809 posts)If he is not reelected, he will not be able to dodge all his trials indefinitely.
lame54
(39,937 posts)Jarqui
(10,921 posts)and everything Trump org does is under tremendous scrutiny
His campaign is also a revenue stream.
GoCubsGo
(34,967 posts)They would have gone on with the whole Project 2025/dictatorship shit with or without him.
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)leftieNanner
(16,162 posts)Being a loser and prison.
blm
(114,712 posts)I shouldve known another DUer was thinking the same.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)when it becomes clear he is in for an epic ass whipping, the masters will not stand idly by.
Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)I think Trump expects he'll win this election - just as he did four years ago. In fact, he might be more emboldened this go around because not only his polling better (at the moment) than he was four years ago, he out-performed the polls (in both elections). I don't think Trump expects to lose. He might not expect the blowout they felt was likely with Biden (I disagree with that premise, I think Trump World vastly overestimates his appeal) but he absolutely thinks he's going to win in November.
lark
(26,095 posts)TCF thinks SCOTUS would hand him the presidency and the fascist 6 will definitely do that if they get a chance.
Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)He overestimates his popularity. But he absolutely believes he'll win the votes in November. Maybe that changes the longer Harris is in the race, but at the moment he does not think he'll lose.
onenote
(46,190 posts)That's nine years of people being wrong.
stopdiggin
(15,560 posts)publicity seeking and stagecraft. Apparently even Trump was more focused on reviving a reality TV career - than any kind of serious attempt at the WH. And then ... Thanks to all the goobers out there (and the bitter backlash to having a 2 term black president) - he started winning primaries ...
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His ego wont let him. And theres that messy problem of trying to stay out of prison. He has to win in order to pardon himself.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)plenty of places for him to run to.
LaMouffette
(2,653 posts)mopinko
(73,819 posts)maybe hell take billy barr w him. he knows waaaaay too much.
Qutzupalotl
(15,843 posts)What's more, he's sunk, and he knows it.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Question is, would they go for another trump Nazi, or someone who hides their true hatred/fascism?
mopinko
(73,819 posts)i suspect theyd tap haley or someone equally appealing in as veep.
barbtries
(31,324 posts)but I don't see him quitting for any reason other than death. certainly he would never, ever do what President Biden did - if he cared about the country he never would have run.
dweller
(28,526 posts)Malaise wins that bet
✌🏻
ms liberty
(11,299 posts)So he will always believe he's going to win. It's one of the reasons we need to beat him and the Repukes so much more decisively in November; we need his sycophants and the remnants of the party to turn on him and his grifter family when they all lose.
meadowlander
(5,143 posts)or slunk off the political stage after January 6th.
He will never drop out until he is definitively beaten. Then he will seek asylum in Dubai. That has always been my Trump endgame.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)hes not the power here. hes a puppet. they cut the strings, hes fucked.
the polls will get worse and worse for him. were gonna get a convention bump for the record books.
and they all see the money pouring in rn.
NameAlreadyTaken
(2,307 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)lees1975
(7,118 posts)Sentencing is in September. There's nothing in that case that relates to official presidential duties, according to virtually every attorney consulted.
DoBW
(3,278 posts)# 5:16-cv-00797 document 1
this is evil stuff
BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)No wonder the repubes want to hide the truth from Americans.
DoBW
(3,278 posts)diva77
(7,880 posts)25 April 2023
Former US President Donald Trump is expected to visit Scotland next week.
According to the PA news agency, he will spend time at his golf resort Trump Turnberry in South Ayrshire.
The visit comes as he faces court action in the United States. Earlier this month he pled not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records.
Mr Trump is also facing a civil trial over an allegation that he raped an advice columnist nearly three decades ago.
Police Scotland declined to comment on whether they were made aware of Mr Trump's impending visit.
It is unclear what days Mr Trump will be in Scotland, however he is expected to land at Shannon Airport in Ireland on 3 May.
While in Ireland he is expected stay at his Trump International Hotel and Golf Links on the outskirts of Doonbeg in County Clare.
SNIP
mopinko
(73,819 posts)itll b dubia, or maybe saudi. somewhere they wont extradite him.
SharonClark
(10,497 posts)mopinko
(73,819 posts)SharonClark
(10,497 posts)MistakenLamb
(791 posts)Hes not dropping out but I would bet he has asked Peter Navarro "what its like?"
mopinko
(73,819 posts)MistakenLamb
(791 posts)and ones that dont Trumps jet cannot reach without refueling in one that would ground his plane and arrest him
Mister Ed
(6,956 posts)He's a walking health crisis.
C_U_L8R
(49,457 posts)Those cowards wouldn't dare suggest that he back out of the race.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)hes just a fucking puppet. always has been.
BlueTsunami2018
(5,025 posts)Hes far too narcissistic and desperate to ever quit. Theres just too much riding on this for him to walk away.
malaise
(297,101 posts)Remember he is stark raving mad
mopinko
(73,819 posts)to dubai or saudi.
to Hungary -or somewhere in that region- too many brown people in those countries you named😊
mopinko
(73,819 posts)i dont think orbon is secure. after english and french elections this yr, hes likely pissing his pants, too.
malaise
(297,101 posts)Get them both in Hungary😀
mopinko
(73,819 posts)FloridaBlues
(4,678 posts)David__77
(24,840 posts)Withdrawing makes absolutely no sense. For over eight years, people have been talking about him withdrawing and fleeing.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)JI7
(93,786 posts)Emile
(42,782 posts)Why would he drop out
themaguffin
(5,289 posts)jmowreader
(53,301 posts)If he drops out of the race he's staring down an Election Interference case in Georgia, an insurrection case in DC and a refiled classified-documents case in Florida. And that's not to mention that once he leaves the campaign there's no reason for Judge Engoron to not declare Trump's hush money shit was not an official duty of a president and hand down what the Brits call a "swingeing penalty." Simply stated, if he stops being a candidate he'll start being a prisoner within a week and he doesn't want that.
His plan is to get elected to office, stay in office to the end of his term, then tell the courts to blow him because he's outside the statute of limitations. This assumes that he doesn't die in office of old age or bad hamberders.
Vinca
(54,179 posts)He'll be having those bandages of his cut up into micro squares to mount and sell to the cult for a grand a pop.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)both from the rubes and from the bigs.
Vogon_Glory
(10,331 posts)Something worse than his bout with COVID: a stroke, a major heart attack, broken back, some nasty disease or other, otherwise I think the Republicans are stuck with him.
I wouldnt count on his being incapacitated: hes had the Devils good luck.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)he might not grok that, but the ppl behind him do.
Vogon_Glory
(10,331 posts)He may be down the road to cognitive impairment, but he can still occasionally speak complete sentences. During the debates he still showed a lot of feral cunning.
I dont think hes impaired enough to persuade a plurality of right-wing voters to either sit out this election or even vote against him.
Like I said before, hes had the Devils good luck.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)even that wont work forever.
NoMoreRepugs
(12,177 posts)AllyCat
(18,934 posts)Has too much desire to stay out of prison.
He may die of a Big Mack attack, but he will never quit.
mucifer
(25,702 posts)Dont underestimate the stupid in our country
mopinko
(73,819 posts)and the more ppl talk about epstein, that faster hes gonna drop.
Joinfortmill
(21,421 posts)He would need to flee the country. The Presidency is his get out of jail free card.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)Happy Hoosier
(9,573 posts)He needs to win in order to stay out of prison.
He will only drop out if he is incapacitated.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)tho i think hes running out of safe places to run. prolly always though he cd run to russia or hungary, but both those dictators r headed for a fall themselves.
dubia or saudi.
Wavelight
(479 posts)You can even have odds
mopinko
(73,819 posts)i like a pizza wager.
Wavelight
(479 posts)Loser buys
🤝
Wavelight
(479 posts)Trump has to "drop out" before election day (November 5). Meaning it would be voluntary and permanent. Death doesn't count. The bet would be a push if he dies. Fair?
we can pm our fave pizza joint and grubhub it.
Buckeyeblue
(6,399 posts)But I think people need to continue to bring up his connection to Epstein.
malaise
(297,101 posts)He is about him
lark
(26,095 posts)They are counting on him to support Putin's taking of Ukraine (for starters) and won't look kindly at him pussying out. Unfortunately, there aren't a whole lot of very tall buildings in S. Fl.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)and they dont like vance.
lark
(26,095 posts)The only thing he knows is he's running for his life to be spent out of prison.
Texasgal
(17,241 posts)His ego won't allow that!
mopinko
(73,819 posts)the epstein files r out there. his own sworn testimony that the 2 of them raped 2 12yos.
i think the shots fired at butler were warning shots.
louis-t
(24,640 posts)As long as he's using someone else's money to try and stay out of prison, he will stay in.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)louis-t
(24,640 posts)China and N. Korea, as well.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)might do so for some senators, but thats it.
they arent stupid.
lees1975
(7,118 posts)The narrative on age has definitely flipped. But I don't see his ego letting him drop out.
They are seriously working on every possible voter suppression and election stealing angle they think they can get away with. I don't believe their court challenges will go very far, even though there are a lot of Republican judges in red states in particular, most of them aren't going to risk corruption by doing him favors by subverting the law. That's all Trump blabber. "It was stolen" is his only out.
mopinko
(73,819 posts)thing is, hell now have to rly hit the trail. he cant sit back like he has been, doing rallies for maga crowds, before a lot of ppl who r paid to b there.
im starting to think that shooter was sending a warning.
Ill take free money!
Just like he was supposed to flee the country?
Hes under no threat to quit or leave. Apparently weve been witnessing two very different beasts operate. His ego wont allow for either. Hed rather see it all burn to the ground and admire his handy work. Hes even got his own Supreme Court to give him the election ala the giggling mass murderer w bush.
LetMyPeopleVote
(180,893 posts)TFG is not going to drop out
