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mopinko

(73,726 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:53 PM Jul 2024

anyone care to wager that tsf will drop out? fake a health crisis? too many ppl talking about epstein.

i honestly dont think he’ll make it to nov as a candidate.
the level of pressure he’s under, perhaps the big macs will catch up to him. but the whole party is shitting their pants.
remember- he’s gotten away w being a pedo cuz so many of them r pedos, too. i think ppl will start connecting those dots.

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anyone care to wager that tsf will drop out? fake a health crisis? too many ppl talking about epstein. (Original Post) mopinko Jul 2024 OP
the only way this guy leaves is on a gurney or a body bag stopdiggin Jul 2024 #1
Yep Greg_In_SF Jul 2024 #23
Why would we want him to drop out? jimfields33 Jul 2024 #30
Convicts desperate to get back in the Whitehouse. Omnipresent Jul 2024 #68
i didnt say i wanted him to. but i dont think jd will b hard to beat, either. mopinko Jul 2024 #87
He will not drop out. He does not have a choice. He has to win or else end up in Jail drray23 Jul 2024 #2
He could run lame54 Jul 2024 #17
That's hard when the court is pressing to collect $464 mil in fraud damages Jarqui Jul 2024 #20
Yup! Keeping his ass out of prison is WHY he's running in the first place. GoCubsGo Jul 2024 #32
I don't think he will drop off he's trying to stay out of prison Dem4life1234 Jul 2024 #3
He won't because he fears two things leftieNanner Jul 2024 #4
I was thinking that earlier today. blm Jul 2024 #5
we need to remember that he is not the master of this monster. he's a puppet for some very powerful ppl. mopinko Jul 2024 #39
You're assuming Trump isn't delusional. He absolutely is. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #6
He thinks he will win in the end - but by stealing the election not outright winning it. lark Jul 2024 #78
Maybe but I believe he thinks he has the votes regardless. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #83
People have been predicting Trump would quit since he first announced he was running in June 2015 onenote Jul 2024 #7
many people consider that first run to have been largely stopdiggin Jul 2024 #94
This message was self-deleted by its author diva77 Jul 2024 #8
No Mz Pip Jul 2024 #9
or he cd skip the country. mopinko Jul 2024 #40
I wish he would flee to Guyana like that certain other cult leader did and take his cult members with him. LaMouffette Jul 2024 #82
yeah, he might not b the only 1 on the plane. mopinko Jul 2024 #88
I don't think he can. He's stuck. Qutzupalotl Jul 2024 #10
In this election, anything is possible. If GOPers decide he can't win now, wouldn't surprise me. Silent Type Jul 2024 #11
i think they pretty much have to put jd at the top of the ticket, but mopinko Jul 2024 #41
i won't take a bet, barbtries Jul 2024 #12
If he does drop out dweller Jul 2024 #13
If he drops dead first. Other than that, no. He's a narcissist, and a grifter ms liberty Jul 2024 #14
He is immune to shame or pressure. Otherwise he would have resigned after one of his impeachments meadowlander Jul 2024 #15
he's immune from pressure from citizens. not immune from pressure from his masters. mopinko Jul 2024 #43
He'll probably just disappear NameAlreadyTaken Jul 2024 #16
Too many? More like not enough! dchill Jul 2024 #18
It's very likely he will be in jail by election day. lees1975 Jul 2024 #19
have you seen pages 3 ans 4 from .... DoBW Jul 2024 #21
Is that a cite for the Trump Epstein Pedo Papers? BoRaGard Jul 2024 #22
copy and paste for search ...nt DoBW Jul 2024 #56
We've already observed a bit of foreshadowing of what he might do -- diva77 Jul 2024 #24
scotland wont let him in. mopinko Jul 2024 #44
The article is from 2023 and Scotland did let him in. SharonClark Jul 2024 #58
that was before his conviction. mopinko Jul 2024 #61
The article is from 2023 and Scotland did let him in. SharonClark Jul 2024 #59
He is literally only in to prevent going to prison MistakenLamb Jul 2024 #25
he can flee. mopinko Jul 2024 #45
there are few nation states without extradition treaties with the US MistakenLamb Jul 2024 #67
He wouldn't have to fake a health crisis. Mister Ed Jul 2024 #26
His advisors are all suck-ups and kiss-asses C_U_L8R Jul 2024 #27
the masters might. mopinko Jul 2024 #46
Unless he drops dead, there's no way he's leaving. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2024 #28
I still think he'll feign an illness and withdraw malaise Jul 2024 #29
and run. mopinko Jul 2024 #49
Nope malaise Jul 2024 #53
also possible. but mopinko Jul 2024 #63
Even better malaise Jul 2024 #69
works for me. mopinko Jul 2024 #70
No he's not dropping out. FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #31
The bottom line is that his power is having a political movement. David__77 Jul 2024 #33
for 8 yrs, he's had a chance. he doesnt now. mopinko Jul 2024 #47
How will he benefit by dropping out ? JI7 Jul 2024 #34
He is running to pardon himself. Emile Jul 2024 #35
Zero percent chance. None. themaguffin Jul 2024 #36
He will not jmowreader Jul 2024 #37
He's not going anywhere. This is more than a political campaign for him, it's a successful grift. Vinca Jul 2024 #38
i think when he rightly sinks in the polls, the money will dry up. mopinko Jul 2024 #48
Only if he has a serious health crisis Vogon_Glory Jul 2024 #42
he's already pretty incapacitated. mopinko Jul 2024 #50
TFG is still mobile and can make noises. Vogon_Glory Jul 2024 #85
only when he's drugged up. mopinko Jul 2024 #89
Most of his rallies are outside cuz his ego is so big. Dead is the only way he drops out. NoMoreRepugs Jul 2024 #51
He will never quit. He is too egotistical and AllyCat Jul 2024 #52
he's still ahead in some of the polls mucifer Jul 2024 #54
barely, and he's farrrr behind w young voters. mopinko Jul 2024 #62
Maybe.. Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #55
he will def flee. mopinko Jul 2024 #65
Not a chance, IMO. Happy Hoosier Jul 2024 #57
or he can run. mopinko Jul 2024 #66
I'll take the wager Wavelight Jul 2024 #60
ok, what r we betting? mopinko Jul 2024 #64
Sounds good Wavelight Jul 2024 #73
. mopinko Jul 2024 #74
So, to be clear... Wavelight Jul 2024 #81
yes. mopinko Jul 2024 #90
He has already been nominated. It would be difficult to replace him at this point Buckeyeblue Jul 2024 #71
You think he would give a flying fuck. malaise Jul 2024 #72
Nope, he won't drop out, Putin and Orban won't let him, they are counting on him destroying us. lark Jul 2024 #75
they see more clearly than he does that he's about to get his ass kicked. mopinko Jul 2024 #77
Just about anyone is smarter and sees more clear than tcf. He was severe cognitive difficulties. lark Jul 2024 #80
No way he's dropping out. Texasgal Jul 2024 #76
his ego wont stand up to what's coming. mopinko Jul 2024 #79
There is NO WAY he will drop out. louis-t Jul 2024 #84
the money will dry up when the polls start to bottom out. mopinko Jul 2024 #86
He can always look to his good friends in Russia and Saudi Arabia. louis-t Jul 2024 #93
for a place to hide, yes. they wont dump money into his losing campaign. mopinko Jul 2024 #95
He may very well have a health crisis, but he won't drop out. lees1975 Jul 2024 #91
he wont want to, but his masters may make him an offer he cant refuse. mopinko Jul 2024 #92
LOL! VBNMW Jul 2024 #96
TFG is running to stay out of prison LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #97
and by now it's dawning on him that he'a gonna lose. mopinko Jul 2024 #98

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
1. the only way this guy leaves is on a gurney or a body bag
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:57 PM
Jul 2024

drop out? Yeah - I'll take a fair chunk of that.

Omnipresent

(7,450 posts)
68. Convicts desperate to get back in the Whitehouse.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:01 AM
Jul 2024

It’s the only way he can try to redeem his 2020 loss.
Not to mention, slowing and stopping his criminal lawsuits.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
87. i didnt say i wanted him to. but i dont think jd will b hard to beat, either.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 10:14 AM
Jul 2024

also, we’re about to decimate the whole party. it’ll b every ‘man’ for himself soon.

drray23

(8,757 posts)
2. He will not drop out. He does not have a choice. He has to win or else end up in Jail
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:58 PM
Jul 2024

If he is not reelected, he will not be able to dodge all his trials indefinitely.

Jarqui

(10,909 posts)
20. That's hard when the court is pressing to collect $464 mil in fraud damages
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 02:59 AM
Jul 2024

and everything Trump org does is under tremendous scrutiny
His campaign is also a revenue stream.

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
32. Yup! Keeping his ass out of prison is WHY he's running in the first place.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 07:19 AM
Jul 2024

They would have gone on with the whole Project 2025/dictatorship shit with or without him.

blm

(114,658 posts)
5. I was thinking that earlier today.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:59 PM
Jul 2024

I should’ve known another DUer was thinking the same.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
39. we need to remember that he is not the master of this monster. he's a puppet for some very powerful ppl.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:00 AM
Jul 2024

when it becomes clear he is in for an epic ass whipping, the masters will not stand idly by.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
6. You're assuming Trump isn't delusional. He absolutely is.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 12:00 AM
Jul 2024

I think Trump expects he'll win this election - just as he did four years ago. In fact, he might be more emboldened this go around because not only his polling better (at the moment) than he was four years ago, he out-performed the polls (in both elections). I don't think Trump expects to lose. He might not expect the blowout they felt was likely with Biden (I disagree with that premise, I think Trump World vastly overestimates his appeal) but he absolutely thinks he's going to win in November.

lark

(26,081 posts)
78. He thinks he will win in the end - but by stealing the election not outright winning it.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:29 AM
Jul 2024

TCF thinks SCOTUS would hand him the presidency and the fascist 6 will definitely do that if they get a chance.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
83. Maybe but I believe he thinks he has the votes regardless.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:36 AM
Jul 2024

He overestimates his popularity. But he absolutely believes he'll win the votes in November. Maybe that changes the longer Harris is in the race, but at the moment he does not think he'll lose.

onenote

(46,142 posts)
7. People have been predicting Trump would quit since he first announced he was running in June 2015
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 12:05 AM
Jul 2024

That's nine years of people being wrong.

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
94. many people consider that first run to have been largely
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 12:05 PM
Jul 2024

publicity seeking and stagecraft. Apparently even Trump was more focused on reviving a reality TV career - than any kind of serious attempt at the WH. And then ... Thanks to all the goobers out there (and the bitter backlash to having a 2 term black president) - he started winning primaries ...

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Mz Pip

(28,454 posts)
9. No
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 12:07 AM
Jul 2024

His ego won’t let him. And there’s that messy problem of trying to stay out of prison. He has to win in order to pardon himself.

LaMouffette

(2,640 posts)
82. I wish he would flee to Guyana like that certain other cult leader did and take his cult members with him.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:36 AM
Jul 2024

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
88. yeah, he might not b the only 1 on the plane.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 10:15 AM
Jul 2024

maybe he’ll take billy barr w him. he knows waaaaay too much.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
11. In this election, anything is possible. If GOPers decide he can't win now, wouldn't surprise me.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 12:18 AM
Jul 2024

Question is, would they go for another trump Nazi, or someone who hides their true hatred/fascism?

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
41. i think they pretty much have to put jd at the top of the ticket, but
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:03 AM
Jul 2024

i suspect they’d tap haley or someone equally ‘appealing’ in as veep.

barbtries

(31,308 posts)
12. i won't take a bet,
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 12:25 AM
Jul 2024

but I don't see him quitting for any reason other than death. certainly he would never, ever do what President Biden did - if he cared about the country he never would have run.

ms liberty

(11,237 posts)
14. If he drops dead first. Other than that, no. He's a narcissist, and a grifter
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 12:56 AM
Jul 2024

So he will always believe he's going to win. It's one of the reasons we need to beat him and the Repukes so much more decisively in November; we need his sycophants and the remnants of the party to turn on him and his grifter family when they all lose.

meadowlander

(5,133 posts)
15. He is immune to shame or pressure. Otherwise he would have resigned after one of his impeachments
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 01:00 AM
Jul 2024

or slunk off the political stage after January 6th.

He will never drop out until he is definitively beaten. Then he will seek asylum in Dubai. That has always been my Trump endgame.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
43. he's immune from pressure from citizens. not immune from pressure from his masters.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:07 AM
Jul 2024

he’s not the power here. he’s a puppet. they cut the strings, he’s fucked.

the polls will get worse and worse for him. we’re gonna get a convention bump for the record books.
and they all see the money pouring in rn.

lees1975

(7,046 posts)
19. It's very likely he will be in jail by election day.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 02:40 AM
Jul 2024

Sentencing is in September. There's nothing in that case that relates to official presidential duties, according to virtually every attorney consulted.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
22. Is that a cite for the Trump Epstein Pedo Papers?
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:40 AM
Jul 2024

No wonder the repubes want to hide the truth from Americans.

diva77

(7,880 posts)
24. We've already observed a bit of foreshadowing of what he might do --
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:51 AM
Jul 2024
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-65389505

25 April 2023

Former US President Donald Trump is expected to visit Scotland next week.


According to the PA news agency, he will spend time at his golf resort Trump Turnberry in South Ayrshire.
The visit comes as he faces court action in the United States. Earlier this month he pled not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records.
Mr Trump is also facing a civil trial over an allegation that he raped an advice columnist nearly three decades ago.

Police Scotland declined to comment on whether they were made aware of Mr Trump's impending visit.
It is unclear what days Mr Trump will be in Scotland, however he is expected to land at Shannon Airport in Ireland on 3 May.
While in Ireland he is expected stay at his Trump International Hotel and Golf Links on the outskirts of Doonbeg in County Clare.
SNIP

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
44. scotland wont let him in.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:09 AM
Jul 2024

it’ll b dubia, or maybe saudi. somewhere they wont extradite him.

MistakenLamb

(791 posts)
25. He is literally only in to prevent going to prison
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:58 AM
Jul 2024

Hes not dropping out but I would bet he has asked Peter Navarro "what its like?"

MistakenLamb

(791 posts)
67. there are few nation states without extradition treaties with the US
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:56 AM
Jul 2024

and ones that dont Trumps jet cannot reach without refueling in one that would ground his plane and arrest him

C_U_L8R

(49,384 posts)
27. His advisors are all suck-ups and kiss-asses
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:39 AM
Jul 2024

Those cowards wouldn't dare suggest that he back out of the race.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,989 posts)
28. Unless he drops dead, there's no way he's leaving.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:02 AM
Jul 2024

He’s far too narcissistic and desperate to ever quit. There’s just too much riding on this for him to walk away.

malaise

(296,101 posts)
53. Nope
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:28 AM
Jul 2024

to Hungary -or somewhere in that region- too many brown people in those countries you named😊

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
63. also possible. but
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:50 AM
Jul 2024

i dont think orbon is secure. after english and french elections this yr, he’s likely pissing his pants, too.

David__77

(24,728 posts)
33. The bottom line is that his power is having a political movement.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 07:22 AM
Jul 2024

Withdrawing makes absolutely no sense. For over eight years, people have been talking about him withdrawing and fleeing.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
37. He will not
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 07:54 AM
Jul 2024

If he drops out of the race he's staring down an Election Interference case in Georgia, an insurrection case in DC and a refiled classified-documents case in Florida. And that's not to mention that once he leaves the campaign there's no reason for Judge Engoron to not declare Trump's hush money shit was not an official duty of a president and hand down what the Brits call a "swingeing penalty." Simply stated, if he stops being a candidate he'll start being a prisoner within a week and he doesn't want that.

His plan is to get elected to office, stay in office to the end of his term, then tell the courts to blow him because he's outside the statute of limitations. This assumes that he doesn't die in office of old age or bad hamberders.

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
38. He's not going anywhere. This is more than a political campaign for him, it's a successful grift.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 07:58 AM
Jul 2024

He'll be having those bandages of his cut up into micro squares to mount and sell to the cult for a grand a pop.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
48. i think when he rightly sinks in the polls, the money will dry up.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:13 AM
Jul 2024

both from the rubes and from the bigs.

Vogon_Glory

(10,297 posts)
42. Only if he has a serious health crisis
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:04 AM
Jul 2024

Something worse than his bout with COVID: a stroke, a major heart attack, broken back, some nasty disease or other, otherwise I think the Republicans are stuck with him.

I wouldn’t count on his being incapacitated: he’s had the Devil’s good luck.

Vogon_Glory

(10,297 posts)
85. TFG is still mobile and can make noises.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:46 AM
Jul 2024

He may be down the road to cognitive impairment, but he can still occasionally speak complete sentences. During the debates he still showed a lot of feral cunning.

I don’t think he’s impaired enough to persuade a plurality of right-wing voters to either sit out this election or even vote against him.

Like I said before, he’s had the Devil’s good luck.

AllyCat

(18,842 posts)
52. He will never quit. He is too egotistical and
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:20 AM
Jul 2024

Has too much desire to stay out of prison.

He may die of a Big Mack attack, but he will never quit.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
62. barely, and he's farrrr behind w young voters.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:48 AM
Jul 2024

and the more ppl talk about epstein, that faster he’s gonna drop.

Joinfortmill

(21,163 posts)
55. Maybe..
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:32 AM
Jul 2024

He would need to flee the country. The Presidency is his get out of jail free card.

Happy Hoosier

(9,535 posts)
57. Not a chance, IMO.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:40 AM
Jul 2024

He needs to win in order to stay out of prison.

He will only drop out if he is incapacitated.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
66. or he can run.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:53 AM
Jul 2024

tho i think he’s running out of safe places to run. prolly always though he cd run to russia or hungary, but both those dictators r headed for a fall themselves.
dubia or saudi.

Wavelight

(477 posts)
81. So, to be clear...
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:35 AM
Jul 2024

Trump has to "drop out" before election day (November 5). Meaning it would be voluntary and permanent. Death doesn't count. The bet would be a push if he dies. Fair?

Buckeyeblue

(6,352 posts)
71. He has already been nominated. It would be difficult to replace him at this point
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:13 AM
Jul 2024

But I think people need to continue to bring up his connection to Epstein.

lark

(26,081 posts)
75. Nope, he won't drop out, Putin and Orban won't let him, they are counting on him destroying us.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:26 AM
Jul 2024

They are counting on him to support Putin's taking of Ukraine (for starters) and won't look kindly at him pussying out. Unfortunately, there aren't a whole lot of very tall buildings in S. Fl.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
77. they see more clearly than he does that he's about to get his ass kicked.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:29 AM
Jul 2024

and they dont like vance.

lark

(26,081 posts)
80. Just about anyone is smarter and sees more clear than tcf. He was severe cognitive difficulties.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:31 AM
Jul 2024

The only thing he knows is he's running for his life to be spent out of prison.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
79. his ego wont stand up to what's coming.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:31 AM
Jul 2024

the epstein files r out there. his own sworn testimony that the 2 of them raped 2 12yo’s.
i think the shots fired at butler were warning shots.

louis-t

(24,618 posts)
84. There is NO WAY he will drop out.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:44 AM
Jul 2024

As long as he's using someone else's money to try and stay out of prison, he will stay in.

louis-t

(24,618 posts)
93. He can always look to his good friends in Russia and Saudi Arabia.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 11:50 AM
Jul 2024

China and N. Korea, as well.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
95. for a place to hide, yes. they wont dump money into his losing campaign.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 12:10 PM
Jul 2024

might do so for some senators, but that’s it.
they arent stupid.

lees1975

(7,046 posts)
91. He may very well have a health crisis, but he won't drop out.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 10:27 AM
Jul 2024

The narrative on age has definitely flipped. But I don't see his ego letting him drop out.

They are seriously working on every possible voter suppression and election stealing angle they think they can get away with. I don't believe their court challenges will go very far, even though there are a lot of Republican judges in red states in particular, most of them aren't going to risk corruption by doing him favors by subverting the law. That's all Trump blabber. "It was stolen" is his only out.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
92. he wont want to, but his masters may make him an offer he cant refuse.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 10:50 AM
Jul 2024

thing is, he’ll now have to rly hit the trail. he cant sit back like he has been, doing rallies for maga crowds, before a lot of ppl who r paid to b there.
i’m starting to think that shooter was sending a warning.

 

VBNMW

(67 posts)
96. LOL!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:20 PM
Jul 2024

I’ll take free money!

Just like he was supposed to flee the country?

He’s under no threat to quit or leave. Apparently we’ve been witnessing two very different beasts operate. His ego won’t allow for either. He’d rather see it all burn to the ground and admire his handy work. He’s even got his own Supreme Court to give him the election ala the giggling mass murderer w bush.

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