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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBe ready. There IS a way for Trump to ditch J.D. Vance:
Make up a bogus health problem (for him or his wife or one of his children) and have him drop out so he can attend to it.
The lying will be no problem, but getting him to go along with it might be somewhat problematic.
Kid Berwyn
(24,399 posts)Memory juices all dry. What remains say to TSF, Get your own fugging escape plan!
skip fox
(19,502 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,399 posts)
Americas Favorite Inmate: Cannibal Lester
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Why do people keep insisting that he's going to quit? Winning the presidency may be the only way to stay out of prison.
Kid Berwyn
(24,399 posts)But his Kremlin boss and kleptocratic handlers are the ones who tell the GOP what to do. If they see he cant deliver, theyll get rid of him.
Their plan became obvious in Pennsylvania when the latest lone nut was allowed gained access to a rooftop with direct line-of-site view to the podium.
Had Trump not turned his head, the race today might already be over, with every screen you can stare at aglow with unending coverage of the tragic, horrific, irreplaceable loss of Great Leader Pisswig der First 24/7 ad infinitum, with no commercial interruption.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)Consider the revelations about the secret service that have come out in the past month. They'd say he ordered it.
Hugin
(37,848 posts)cojoel
(1,027 posts)Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)Walleye
(44,807 posts)ColinC
(11,098 posts)And his idiot daughter in-law
obamanut2012
(29,369 posts)Period.
dalton99a
(94,140 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)He won't be too happy if Vance goes.
LaMouffette
(2,640 posts)Aristus
(72,188 posts)But hell lose any no-compromise racists, and will be weakened by the switch itself.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)They're mostly based on rumors and speculation, which we should know by now are pretty unreliable.
Vance still checks all the boxes that Trump wanted in the first place. Trump wants an attack dog who can say outlandish things and play multiple sides of the same issues. Vance doesn't really believe in anything, so he fits the bill.
Cosmocat
(15,424 posts)At the time I believed and have posted Vance was a good pick for further solidifying the base, which was the mode Trump was in with a lead and momentum growing.
It didn't matter that he's an abhorrent prick, they had so effectively negatively framed Joe that the "middle" was collapsing on him, so it wasn't hurting Trump all that much. It was just a mud wrestling match with Joe getting choked out.
But, the entire dynamic has changed, and (all of this through no fault of Joe) Kamala has made things much more palatable to "the middle" and Vance being a smarmy douchebag looks more out of place and women and minorities are more in play.
I can't say if he will dump him or nit, but Vance is clearly not as a good a fit today as he was a week ago.
Wednesdays
(22,605 posts)There's only a few weeks left before the ballots are printed.
skip fox
(19,502 posts)onenote
(46,143 posts)More rumor and speculation.
liberalmuse
(18,881 posts)I think they were planning on disposing of Trump if they won and once they were full swing into implementing Project 2025. Without elections they wouldnt need MAGA anymore and the GOP leaders detest Trump. Peter Theil and his ilk arent going to let Trump ditch his guy before they find someone else just as bad, if not worse who is a little less creepy and awkward. Theyve brought their plans out into the open now and are so arrogant, well, they were before Sunday afternoon that they thought they could ditch the MAGA clown show.
JD Vance is the dark underbelly of who they really are. Hes not Trump lite. Hes Trump dark. Trump=bad sitcom with a laugh track. JD Vance=bad sitcom on a black and white TV with the laugh track removed and sinister music added.
Prairie Gates
(8,157 posts)He's going to be on the ticket. Best to plan for that.
Ocelot II
(130,538 posts)It was at McGovern's request but nevertheless he was not removed procedurally. Vance would probably have to be dragged out kicking and screaming, and since he's Peter Thiel's toy that isn't likely to happen at all. Trump and the GOP in general react to badness by doubling down on it.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,955 posts)Silent Type
(12,412 posts)debm55
(60,623 posts)cloudbase
(6,270 posts)ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)health problem that makes him not run for VP he would be under a lot of pressure to resign his Senate seat.
Can't have it both ways.
Srkdqltr
(9,761 posts)Don't look back with these people . They don't do history. He will do what he wants and make up reasons why, or not.
dobleremolque
(1,121 posts)the "Let's Go Brandon" stores get in their first shipments of Trump/Vance merchandise?
EarthAbides
(450 posts)Remember Trump is planning on stealing the election. His allies in key states will not certify the election and it will become a matter for the Supreme Court. With Harris now as our nominee and her rising tide of support stealing the election will be a lot harder, but it is still the game plan...