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babylonsister

(172,759 posts)
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 02:26 PM Jul 2024

Harris Is Vetting Pete Buttigieg

https://politicalwire.com/2024/07/24/harris-is-vetting-pete-buttigieg/

Harris Is Vetting Pete Buttigieg
July 24, 2024 at 2:16 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard


The Harris campaign is also considering Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg as a possible running mate, NBC News reports.

GOP political strategist Mike Murphy said Buttigieg is the “smartest move” for Harris because he “says future vs. past the loudest.”
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Harris Is Vetting Pete Buttigieg (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2024 OP
Yes Please!!! Faux pas Jul 2024 #1
Mayor Pete as Secretary of Defense might be the better way to go. PeaceWave Jul 2024 #25
communications director Tetrachloride Jul 2024 #57
THIS malaise Jul 2024 #99
He is... TommyT139 Jul 2024 #106
Though a shame to ask a young father to do a job with a lot of last-minute foreign travel (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2024 #168
I like that choice too, although he is doing such an incredible job as Secretary of Transportation that it Escurumbele Jul 2024 #127
Be still my heart! Autumn Jul 2024 #2
Hahaha! That'll really grind TSF's gears - America TheBlackAdder Jul 2024 #88
Yes!!!!!!!!! gay texan Jul 2024 #3
Love this!! Docreed2003 Jul 2024 #4
With Pete.... Blue Owl Jul 2024 #5
You haven't been reading RW media. A Kamala/Pete ticket would smoke out the racists and homophobes. It will be close. Marcuse Jul 2024 #125
Harris/Buttigieg 2024!! pinkstarburst Jul 2024 #6
Dream ticket! 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2024 #7
He is brilliant Blue Thing Jul 2024 #8
And one that would make Donald sh*t his pants!! n/t EndlessWire Jul 2024 #47
Yes, but pretty low bar there. aeromanKC Jul 2024 #74
And one that would make Donald sh*t his pants!! markodochartaigh Jul 2024 #82
The smartest person in politics. multigraincracker Jul 2024 #9
And he brings nothing to the ticket but that edisdead Jul 2024 #12
Sure. Autumn Jul 2024 #23
And a very comfortable relationship with both Kamala and Doug Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #44
Thats right BonnieJW Jul 2024 #119
uh... JFK had young kids consider_this Jul 2024 #134
I mean, who wants that? Gross. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2024 #51
He doesn't help put any state in play edisdead Jul 2024 #54
So? He has served a very important post in the Biden administration and done very well. Autumn Jul 2024 #79
GREAT comment !! HUAJIAO Jul 2024 #98
Pete would be the best! GPV Jul 2024 #136
Yes, he DOES put Michigan in play. James48 Jul 2024 #182
He brings unmatched intelligence, combined with the military experience of Kelly and the charisma of Shapiro. W_HAMILTON Jul 2024 #40
Unmatched intelligence? edisdead Jul 2024 #66
No, but he's the smartest person among those being currently vetted for VP. W_HAMILTON Jul 2024 #77
⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ So True! ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ n/t phoenix_rising Jul 2024 #165
You know who else didn't have the experience that a president needs when she was chosen for VP? Autumn Jul 2024 #85
Nicely done! 👏 phoenix_rising Jul 2024 #91
Kamala had already been elected in a statewide election. Twice. NT nbsmom Jul 2024 #137
Kelly barely squeaked out a win for that seat in 2022. That seat would be up for grabs again in 2026 Autumn Jul 2024 #184
She had won multiple State-Wide offices Zeitghost Jul 2024 #144
I have to agree with everything you have said, ed. murielm99 Jul 2024 #108
Let's try Mensa level intelligence. Pete is whip Ninga Jul 2024 #111
Yeah, and his serving in naval intelligence doesn't matter for anything. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2024 #50
Sorry but he doesn't edisdead Jul 2024 #59
what you said is simply not true: Celerity Jul 2024 #167
He was the best in the debates. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #171
Young people love him. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #75
Huh? bif Jul 2024 #114
agree...if the theme is "a new day" Pete is part of the past.. agingdem Jul 2024 #129
Seems an assertion that would be well sourced, yes? Torchlight Jul 2024 #185
👇👇👇👁️👁️ Goonch Jul 2024 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #19
I am sorry I have to agree YoshidaYui Jul 2024 #27
I see your point sagetea Jul 2024 #28
+1. Outstanding choice theoretically, but America is not there yet dalton99a Jul 2024 #31
Yes we are. HUAJIAO Jul 2024 #180
Homophobic talking point FreeState Jul 2024 #60
THANK YOU! William769 Jul 2024 #86
It's beyond disappointing n/t FreeState Jul 2024 #87
It's disgusting. Why don't we just start saying we shouldn't pinkstarburst Jul 2024 #133
+1 Celerity Jul 2024 #173
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #103
That is just like saying William769 Jul 2024 #107
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #117
You handled that really well. femmedem Jul 2024 #132
I get that. Welcome to DU, ArgyBargy! calimary Jul 2024 #147
I am very disappointed. William769 Jul 2024 #176
I apologize. Didn't mean to disappoint you, William769. calimary Jul 2024 #178
Thank you, I'm feeling the homophobia here, it's sickening EastBayGuy Jul 2024 #162
I agree with you Dem4life1234 Jul 2024 #61
They said it was not smart to have a black woman in the top spot. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #68
That damn dog is to old to hunt! William769 Jul 2024 #83
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #95
I reject the premise of your question. William769 Jul 2024 #112
Biden put a black woman on his ticket as VP pinkstarburst Jul 2024 #139
Couldn't agree more! phoenix_rising Jul 2024 #101
And why not NOW? If not now, the most important election in American history!!!! When??? HUAJIAO Jul 2024 #115
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I'm a calculated risk taker. Always have been. HUAJIAO Jul 2024 #128
Young people are going crazy right now. And they love Pete. pinkstarburst Jul 2024 #142
Absolutely, I suspect Pete would also pick up support from not just the youngest, either! HUAJIAO Jul 2024 #151
I love the idea, because it screams 'PROGRESSIVE'! 70sEraVet Jul 2024 #120
No. Why play it half way. TWP glass ceilings. Prove there IS NO glass ceiling any longer. HUAJIAO Jul 2024 #154
I'm pretty sure the anti-gay crowd is voting for fascism. nt Gore1FL Jul 2024 #160
ArgyBargy....... Upthevibe Jul 2024 #169
Buttigieg would be my choice. sop Jul 2024 #11
There is a thought... Mike Nelson Jul 2024 #13
A First Gentleman and a Second Gentleman jayschool2013 Jul 2024 #36
OMG how cool. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #70
The problem with Buttigieg as VP candidate... Drummer1 Jul 2024 #14
LOL! EndlessWire Jul 2024 #65
Are we really worried about losing the gay vote to Trump? NickB79 Jul 2024 #89
Not worried at all. I think it would be a brilliant Ninga Jul 2024 #105
If the Irish can vote for Gay man... EastBayGuy Jul 2024 #170
14 million people in the US identify as LGBT. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #73
aren't most of them already voting blue though? I know there are Log Cabin Republicans but how many? ZonkerHarris Jul 2024 #76
We don't know if they were going to vote or not. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #78
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #110
Have you actually looked at TikTok? Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #113
TikTok is going INSANE for Pete pinkstarburst Jul 2024 #145
I think that's the most important point sanjermane Jul 2024 #156
And they all have families and friends. They don't come alone. badhair77 Jul 2024 #143
Pete and Chasten live in MI, a swing state n/t phoenix_rising Jul 2024 #116
He is one of the best communicators. Anti-woke heads woud explode! Doodley Jul 2024 #15
Good. sinkingfeeling Jul 2024 #16
I hope not. H2O Man Jul 2024 #17
why? Celerity Jul 2024 #22
Fair question. H2O Man Jul 2024 #35
I fully agree. cilla4progress Jul 2024 #39
Yes! H2O Man Jul 2024 #43
You do know that Pete lives in Michigan right? llmart Jul 2024 #48
Shh. Don't interrupt with silly facts. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2024 #52
I heard him say so on the news last night. cilla4progress Jul 2024 #53
He lives in Traverse City. llmart Jul 2024 #153
Wonderful! cilla4progress Jul 2024 #166
I don't know where you are but it's a great place to go on a vacation. llmart Jul 2024 #183
Only since 2022, and has never held office there. thesquanderer Jul 2024 #102
Speaking as a Michigander... llmart Jul 2024 #148
Agree Auggie Jul 2024 #80
There are numerous others H2O Man Jul 2024 #149
Yup Auggie Jul 2024 #164
Right. H2O Man Jul 2024 #172
He's my fantasy pick, but it ain't gonna happen. I predict a straight male with great creds msfiddlestix Jul 2024 #18
Yay! We need a public transit minded administration. CoopersDad Jul 2024 #20
Oh, fantastic! ananda Jul 2024 #21
One of the BEST speakers, if not THE BEST, but on the ticket or not, Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #37
It is highly likely he will be selected as her running mate AlexSFCA Jul 2024 #24
Here's what would happen if Kelly were selected: cilla4progress Jul 2024 #41
Actually, the person appointed would have to run for pinkstarburst Jul 2024 #150
Clearly you don't put much stock in the vetting team nbsmom Jul 2024 #163
wrong. AZ has special elections - would be 2026 for Kelly's replacement AlexSFCA Jul 2024 #187
No LeftInTX Jul 2024 #189
I'd love him as VP! nolabear Jul 2024 #26
RSO rso Jul 2024 #29
Michigan is a swing state FreeState Jul 2024 #56
RSO rso Jul 2024 #186
I hope he's the one. liberalmuse Jul 2024 #30
Omg--a dream. ismnotwasm Jul 2024 #32
grand slam, slam dunk splunge63 Jul 2024 #33
We can be sure Vance would not debate Mayor Pete - I am not sure there is any republican that would want Bev54 Jul 2024 #34
Woohoo!! lark Jul 2024 #38
He and Elizabeth Warren are my dream picks ms liberty Jul 2024 #42
He's the best communicator lizardkingjr Jul 2024 #45
Even the very gay Stephanie Miller says bagimin Jul 2024 #46
The former mayor of South Bend Indiana doesn't help cement any Swing States maxsolomon Jul 2024 #49
Geography is only one variable in the algorithm. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #67
Happy Pete is being considered. I fully trust the Harris team to make the right choice. NoMoreRepugs Jul 2024 #55
Young people REALLY want him... OneGrassRoot Jul 2024 #58
I'm old and would love to see him the VP of the US. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #63
Absolutely. And I think Fox viewers... OneGrassRoot Jul 2024 #69
He regularly beats the pants off the GOP on Fox. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #71
I'm so happy. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #62
Yay proud patriot Jul 2024 #64
Yes! And BS to all the naysayers! phoenix_rising Jul 2024 #72
News article says choice is down to 2 (Shapiro and Kelly) crimycarny Jul 2024 #81
Of course Mayor Pete should be considered. He would be a remarkable VP. nbsmom Jul 2024 #158
The world has changed a lot since then phoenix_rising Jul 2024 #174
OMG--first time I've seen this crimycarny Jul 2024 #175
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #84
F. Mike Murphy BaronChocula Jul 2024 #90
The problem we had in 2016 was the party had no bench. nycbos Jul 2024 #92
I adore Pete, but we need Pennsylvania. Shapiro is the smarter move. nt SunSeeker Jul 2024 #93
I have been waiting for the day when Mayor Pete would make a move at the national level. BobTheSubgenius Jul 2024 #94
I would love this travelingthrulife Jul 2024 #96
I think he's great. epreic01 Jul 2024 #97
Pete was my pick but living in Pa I know how great Shapiro is. We will see. twodogsbarking Jul 2024 #100
If Not VP Deep State Witch Jul 2024 #104
THIS. He would make a brilliant SOS. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #124
I'm a Pete-nick all the way!!! bif Jul 2024 #109
Not good timing. Kalifornia9 Jul 2024 #118
One can hope. dchill Jul 2024 #121
For those who say that we aren't ready mindfulNJ Jul 2024 #122
Not a fan. I'm still team Josh. ColinC Jul 2024 #126
OMG... THUNDER TICKET! That would be SO awesome.... n/t TygrBright Jul 2024 #130
ohm myyy! AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #131
It's nice that she is vetting him, but let's be real with going for one electoral milestone at a time. elocs Jul 2024 #135
YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY!!!!!!! Lulu KC Jul 2024 #138
I adore him, but Susan Calvin Jul 2024 #140
Is she considering or actually vetting? Do we know for sure. FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #141
This is very exciting!! Oopsie Daisy Jul 2024 #146
Good man, honorable man Aviation Pro Jul 2024 #152
Buttigieg Buttigieg Buttigieg soul kitchen Jul 2024 #155
Secretary of State Mz Pip Jul 2024 #157
Mrs returnee and I were just now saying the same thing. returnee Jul 2024 #159
Certainly qualified... walrus314 Jul 2024 #161
I would love someone from the Midwest. Pete is a great choice. LakeArenal Jul 2024 #177
I've been saying for the past few days . . . markpkessinger Jul 2024 #179
Yes!!!! Pick PETE!!! James48 Jul 2024 #181
I don't get the political calculation but he is clearly very bight. BrightKnight Jul 2024 #188
I don't think anyone could be a better spokesperson radical noodle Jul 2024 #190
He would be my choice wildflowergardener Jul 2024 #191

TommyT139

(2,357 posts)
106. He is...
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:40 PM
Jul 2024

...but isn't Comms effectively a demotion?

Personally, I like him for Secretary of State, which includes a ton of security awareness. Also sticks it in the face of homophobic regimes

muriel_volestrangler

(106,207 posts)
168. Though a shame to ask a young father to do a job with a lot of last-minute foreign travel (nt)
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 06:01 PM
Jul 2024

Escurumbele

(4,094 posts)
127. I like that choice too, although he is doing such an incredible job as Secretary of Transportation that it
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:02 PM
Jul 2024

would be a shame to move him out from that department at this time when so much is going on there.

Blue Owl

(59,095 posts)
5. With Pete....
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 02:35 PM
Jul 2024

The more you vet him, the more impressive he gets.

I know nobody is perfect, but he might be as close as it gets -- I've never read a bad or negative thing about Pete....

Marcuse

(9,009 posts)
125. You haven't been reading RW media. A Kamala/Pete ticket would smoke out the racists and homophobes. It will be close.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:00 PM
Jul 2024

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
82. And one that would make Donald sh*t his pants!!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:12 PM
Jul 2024

I'll take "Things that the Secretary of Transportation have in common with a sneeze" for $100.

Attilatheblond

(8,876 posts)
44. And a very comfortable relationship with both Kamala and Doug
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:32 PM
Jul 2024

Pete and Chasten both became pretty good friends with Kamala and Doug.

One would assume Pete & Chasten would have to have had a long, serious talk about going on the ticket. Pete has young children now and wants to be there for them and his husband too. It would be a VERY serious consideration.

We know he loves our nation and its people. We know he has set his goal being to 'be useful'. But it would be a huge sacrifice and I would not hold anything against him if he declined the VP spot. He has time ahead for politics, his kids are only young now.

consider_this

(2,847 posts)
134. uh... JFK had young kids
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:14 PM
Jul 2024

and other's too. None of our business. Is he qualified or not, that is our business - and the answer is YES!

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
54. He doesn't help put any state in play
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:41 PM
Jul 2024

He doesn’t help put any state in play and he has never win a statewide election. Having not served any meaningful elected office at a national level is a bad sign for someone who is one heartbeat away from the presidency.

He is wicked smart and is a great cabinet member and as a person on tv panels and talk shows.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
79. So? He has served a very important post in the Biden administration and done very well.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:08 PM
Jul 2024

I think that's good enough. Did I mention vitality? How about self-confidence? Did I mention he is a former intelligence officer in the Navy Reserve and was deployed to Afghanistan in 2014? He is a graduate of Harvard College and the University of Oxford. Happily married and has two kids and a dog. I think that puts him ahead of about half of the people currently serving in elected office at a national level.

James48

(5,213 posts)
182. Yes, he DOES put Michigan in play.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 07:01 PM
Jul 2024

Pete moved to Michigan and is now considered a Michigan guy.

He can move Michigan into a win. It’s a toss up now.

I’m hoping for Pete.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
40. He brings unmatched intelligence, combined with the military experience of Kelly and the charisma of Shapiro.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:26 PM
Jul 2024

So, I would say he would bring quite a lot to the ticket.

Now, in terms of guaranteeing a state by adding him to the ticket, probably not like Shapiro would guarantee PA -- I'm not sure adding Kelly would even guarantee AZ -- but do either of those two guarantee ENOUGH states to win? I'm not sure they do. Shapiro would probably be the closest... But that means that you aren't guaranteeing an electoral win by adding any of them, so why not add the person that would check the most boxes? I would say Buttigieg definitely does that.

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
66. Unmatched intelligence?
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:52 PM
Jul 2024

He is the smartest person in the world?

Almost all of the candidates are wicked smart and capable. He doesn’t have experience that a president needs.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
77. No, but he's the smartest person among those being currently vetted for VP.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:05 PM
Jul 2024

Last edited Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
85. You know who else didn't have the experience that a president needs when she was chosen for VP?
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:15 PM
Jul 2024

Kamala Harris.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
184. Kelly barely squeaked out a win for that seat in 2022. That seat would be up for grabs again in 2026
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:21 PM
Jul 2024

He's better kept in the Senate.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
144. She had won multiple State-Wide offices
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:25 PM
Jul 2024

Pete hasn't won a race outside a medium sized town.

That matters when we're trying to win elections.

murielm99

(32,988 posts)
108. I have to agree with everything you have said, ed.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:42 PM
Jul 2024

That is a reason not to choose Pritzker, either. Besides, we need JB right where he is in Illinois.

Ninga

(9,012 posts)
111. Let's try Mensa level intelligence. Pete is whip
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:44 PM
Jul 2024

smart, quick on his feet, knows what he knows and is a terrific debater.
Pete as Kamala’s VP for 8 years will well prepare him for his 8 years.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,339 posts)
50. Yeah, and his serving in naval intelligence doesn't matter for anything.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:34 PM
Jul 2024

JD Vance would make Pete look silly with his stint in the Marines.

Jesus. You don't have to like the guy, but acting like he brings nothing to the ticket just makes you look silly.

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
59. Sorry but he doesn't
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:44 PM
Jul 2024

He cannot help win a state. In the razor thin margins that is the electoral college you have to have someone that can help bring a state.

He was a mayor. In his last presidential debate appearances he was easily shooed away by almost every other person on the stage. He is smart and he is a very good cabinet member. At this time that is pretty much his ceiling. Like or dislike the guy has nothing to do with it. He isn’t a good choice for the ticket.

Celerity

(54,405 posts)
167. what you said is simply not true:
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 06:00 PM
Jul 2024
In his last presidential debate appearances he was easily shooed away by almost every other person on the stage.


You and I must have watched different debates, no one 'shooed' him away. It did not happen, not at all.

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
75. Young people love him.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:00 PM
Jul 2024

That is not nothing.

LGBT in the US population is 14 million.
That is not nothing.

agingdem

(8,848 posts)
129. agree...if the theme is "a new day" Pete is part of the past..
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:03 PM
Jul 2024

yes, he's a good Biden surrogate and he's great at taking on the Fox gasbags but he brings nothing to the table... whereas Shapiro brings Pennsylvania, a crucial "get"...

Torchlight

(6,823 posts)
185. Seems an assertion that would be well sourced, yes?
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:28 PM
Jul 2024

I'd love to read the objective anlyses which support your allegation.

Response to Goonch (Reply #10)

YoshidaYui

(45,409 posts)
27. I am sorry I have to agree
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:14 PM
Jul 2024

We need a team to defeat Trump at all levels -PA is a swing state, maybe the democratic Governor there.

sagetea

(1,559 posts)
28. I see your point
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:16 PM
Jul 2024

but, at the same time, this is a moment to be bold. The future looks more like Harris/Buttiege than trump/vance.

sage

FreeState

(10,702 posts)
60. Homophobic talking point
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:46 PM
Jul 2024

“A new Quinnipiac University poll finds that 70% of voters (including 86% of Democrats and independents who lean Democratic) say they are open to electing a gay president.”

That was from 2019.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/04/politics/poll-of-the-week-gay-president/index.html

Seeing these right wing homophobic talking points here is disgusting.

pinkstarburst

(2,020 posts)
133. It's disgusting. Why don't we just start saying we shouldn't
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:12 PM
Jul 2024

have a black woman at the top of the ticket while we're at it? *sarcasm* I thought we were supposed to be the party that wasn't full of bigots...

Response to FreeState (Reply #60)

William769

(59,147 posts)
107. That is just like saying
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:42 PM
Jul 2024

I have absolutely nothing against African Americans, or them moving in the future

It's a dog whistle.

Response to William769 (Reply #107)

femmedem

(8,561 posts)
132. You handled that really well.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:07 PM
Jul 2024

And welcome to DU!

(I think Pete being gay would probably only turn off people who were always going to vote for Trump anyway, but I don't know for sure, and I would never attack you because you think otherwise.)

calimary

(90,017 posts)
147. I get that. Welcome to DU, ArgyBargy!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:27 PM
Jul 2024

Seriously, I think Pete is pretty doggone terrific, SOOOO smart and VERY fit to make a great contribution to this country’s forward movement. And he’s young enough not to be done yet.

My main problem is: much of the country may not be ready for a candidate like him. Hell, I fear there are too many people not willing or ready to see a woman become President. So first things first. Might be smarter to break down one barrier at a time.

That said, both of them OR either of them would get my vote in a nanosecond!

calimary

(90,017 posts)
178. I apologize. Didn't mean to disappoint you, William769.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 06:56 PM
Jul 2024

I try to be realistic. And objective. And sometimes that disappoints me, TOO.

William769

(59,147 posts)
83. That damn dog is to old to hunt!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:13 PM
Jul 2024

"Maybe someday, but not now". We went through that shit with Gays in the military & marriage equality.

What would you like on your pizza?

Response to William769 (Reply #83)

William769

(59,147 posts)
112. I reject the premise of your question.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:46 PM
Jul 2024

Your same argument could be used against Vice President Harris as it was against President Obama in 2008. Please take your dog whistle & go home.

pinkstarburst

(2,020 posts)
139. Biden put a black woman on his ticket as VP
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:21 PM
Jul 2024

whether the country was ready for it or not. She was the best one for the job. And the democratic party is putting her as the nominee for President because she's the best damn one for the job. And I think we should not be the party of bigots who says being a gay man disqualifies you from being the VP if you are the best one for the job.

The truth of the matter is that we are not going to win the bigot vote anyway. Anyone who will not vote for a ticket with a gay man as VP wasn't going to vote for our ticket anyway because SPOILER ALERT that demographic won't be wild about the idea of a black woman as president either.

Putting Mark Kelly or Josh Shapiro or Andy Beshear on the ticket is not going to win us votes from people who don't like the idea of a black woman at the top of the ticket. We all need to stop kidding ourselves on that front.

phoenix_rising

(323 posts)
101. Couldn't agree more!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:35 PM
Jul 2024

We have to move and make it happen or it never will. The time is now! The naysayers are promulgating outdated notions that are no longer relevant. Millennials and GenZ are mobilized like never before, and they are the most LGBTQ2SIA+ friendly generations in history!

HUAJIAO

(2,730 posts)
115. And why not NOW? If not now, the most important election in American history!!!! When???
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:47 PM
Jul 2024

Its 2024 for cripes sake. I'm 80 years old- straight white male and I am fucking tired of NOT NOW!!!!


There were blacks, gays and yes, even women in my 1961 high school class.-- 63 years ago.

Not aimed at you personally, but all the NOT NOWers.


Response to HUAJIAO (Reply #115)

HUAJIAO

(2,730 posts)
128. I'm a calculated risk taker. Always have been.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:03 PM
Jul 2024

No risk, no gain !!!!

I think it would blow the election wide open AGAIN, after Kamala had done it once already,


HUAJIAO

(2,730 posts)
151. Absolutely, I suspect Pete would also pick up support from not just the youngest, either!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:29 PM
Jul 2024

70sEraVet

(5,482 posts)
120. I love the idea, because it screams 'PROGRESSIVE'!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:52 PM
Jul 2024

I'm scared of the idea, because it screams, 'PROGRESSIVE'!!
One glass ceiling at a time, please.

HUAJIAO

(2,730 posts)
154. No. Why play it half way. TWP glass ceilings. Prove there IS NO glass ceiling any longer.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:31 PM
Jul 2024

Upthevibe

(10,180 posts)
169. ArgyBargy.......
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 06:04 PM
Jul 2024

As a gay woman, I completely agree. We can't take ANY chances. I love Pete but this (IMHO) is way too risky. Your comment "Maybe someday, but not now" is how I feel 100%....

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
13. There is a thought...
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 02:45 PM
Jul 2024

... that throwing gay into a mix that already includes Asian, black, and female would be "too much" for American voters. I don't agree. We have already had black and female (Hillary did get the most votes). I think Pete could even increase excitement, engagement, and voters. Also, it would be great to see him debate Vance!

jayschool2013

(2,611 posts)
36. A First Gentleman and a Second Gentleman
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:23 PM
Jul 2024

Last edited Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Doug and Chasten hosting state dinners.'

I love it.

MAGA heads would explode over the ticket: A woman who hasn't given birth, and a man who has two children with his husband.

It's time for the 21st century to begin.

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
70. OMG how cool.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:55 PM
Jul 2024

Damn right.

I am ready for the 21st century.
Tired of going back to previous centuries.

 

Drummer1

(64 posts)
14. The problem with Buttigieg as VP candidate...
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 02:49 PM
Jul 2024

...is that he wouldn't bring any swing state constituency with him, much as I admire and respect him.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
65. LOL!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:52 PM
Jul 2024

He'd probably bring in the entire country's gay vote! While we must concern ourselves with the EC, we are not going to win on the basis of one guy bringing in one state, which isn't guaranteed, anyway. We are going to annihilate and nullify Trump's MAGA base, and overwhelm them with all the voting by a huge Blue vote up and down the ticket.

We need to grow up. In Europe, it is no big deal to elect a woman. We can join the rest of the world and show our true leadership. An all inclusive ticket might be best. Trump will exhaust himself trying to run down Buttigieg; he'll see it as something he can exploit. Heck, we should be so lucky as to have a qualified gay guy to pair off with Kamala. And Pete is no wilting flower. Trump should be afraid of him. That's what we want, to beat Trump in every way possible.

NickB79

(20,354 posts)
89. Are we really worried about losing the gay vote to Trump?
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:23 PM
Jul 2024

Are there THAT many Log Cabin Republicans out there?

And are there THAT many LGBT members that are planning on sitting this election out, after all the hateful rhetoric directed their way?

Besides which, there aren't many swing states with LGBT populations large enough to swing from R to D this Nov.

Winning more gay votes in California or New York doesn't actually improve our chances of winning this fall.

EastBayGuy

(160 posts)
170. If the Irish can vote for Gay man...
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 06:05 PM
Jul 2024

My Mom was from Cork and for us Leo Varadkar's election was a real sign that the Catholic church has lost its grip on the country!

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
73. 14 million people in the US identify as LGBT.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:59 PM
Jul 2024

That is 6% of the US population.

We could go to each of the swing states and look at the numbers there.
Simple math.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
76. aren't most of them already voting blue though? I know there are Log Cabin Republicans but how many?
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:02 PM
Jul 2024

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
78. We don't know if they were going to vote or not.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:07 PM
Jul 2024

Young people were not in the mood to vote before.

Also how many closet GOPers will cross party lines to vote for Pete.

We would need to gather some data before we can speak accurately.

I am sure Kamala's campaign is crunching numbers as we speak.

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #78)

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
113. Have you actually looked at TikTok?
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:46 PM
Jul 2024

I have.

And I have talked to young people who were not going to vote.

Young people who are not LGBT.

The youth vote wants PB.

sanjermane

(17 posts)
156. I think that's the most important point
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:33 PM
Jul 2024

I was going to ask the young ones in the family what they see on Tik Tok, so thanks. I think that's where we find indications of the energy and momentum we have and want to continue.
If I prayed, I'd be doing a novena for Pete right now.

H2O Man

(79,048 posts)
35. Fair question.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:22 PM
Jul 2024

I make two lists for each possible VP ...... what do they add to the ticket, and what potential negatives do they bring. I recognize that a lot of good people like him, and that there is an emotional appeal. It is possible that he could gain some votes among independents. But I think that the vast majority of those who would like him on the ticket are already solud votes.

I do not think he would be as positive as any of the governors being considered. I do not think his crendentials for potentially being president are strong. I do not think he would be likely to win any of the important states for the ticket. Hence, I think it would be better to pick a governor as VP, and elevate Pete to a higher position in the Harris administration.

cilla4progress

(26,525 posts)
39. I fully agree.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:26 PM
Jul 2024

My 1st choice is Whitmer. I wonder if some would also argue against her, with 2 women on the ticket? My response is who would NOT vote for the ticket (who otherwise would) with 2 women on it?

I support balance based more on geography. And I agree with you, H2O Man, that a governor would be stronger than a mayor.

Pete for Secretary of State?

H2O Man

(79,048 posts)
43. Yes!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:31 PM
Jul 2024

If I get started talking about Gov. Whitmer, the chances are that I won't stop for at least twelve hours ..... and I have to run to the grocery store. Then bring my grandson the new toys I got him, which might result in hours of playing. I think that she is one of the faces of our party on the national level for years to come.

llmart

(17,615 posts)
153. He lives in Traverse City.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:31 PM
Jul 2024

Upscale city on Lake Michigan. His spouse is from there. The city is known for it's cherry orchards and cherry festival in July. Very beautiful area and touristy in the summer.

cilla4progress

(26,525 posts)
166. Wonderful!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:59 PM
Jul 2024

Some neighbor friends of ours moved there.

I bet Chasten's family is a big help with the twins!

llmart

(17,615 posts)
183. I don't know where you are but it's a great place to go on a vacation.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 07:42 PM
Jul 2024

But not in winter.

thesquanderer

(13,006 posts)
102. Only since 2022, and has never held office there.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:36 PM
Jul 2024

I don't think Michigan residents would be looking at him as "one of their own" or someone familiar to them to the same extent that any of the governors or senators being mentioned are in their respective states, and less likely than those others to be enough to significantly tilt the state in their direction.

Which isn't to say I think he'd be a bad choice. And I like setting him up for the top spot 8 years from now.

llmart

(17,615 posts)
148. Speaking as a Michigander...
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:27 PM
Jul 2024

I have known he lives here since he moved here. It was all over the local news when he did. Most everyone I come into contact with think he's great. However, I'm not sure if the country as a whole would accept him yet. Governor Whitmer will be leaving office and he may be able to win that election if he chose to run. If anything, I think Whitmer would be a terrific VP and the country would probably be more open to having two women. Most of the women I know are always saying that it's time the old, white men let the women run the country since they are more collaborative and no big egos.

H2O Man

(79,048 posts)
172. Right.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 06:22 PM
Jul 2024

I think Kelly would bring the most to the ticket. That's not saying he is or isn't my favorite -- just that I think he adds the most, and has the fewest potential negatives.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
18. He's my fantasy pick, but it ain't gonna happen. I predict a straight male with great creds
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:00 PM
Jul 2024

Could be Senator Kelly, or one of the Gov's.
I feel like the weight of this election cycle is exceedingly heavy enough..
just my opinion of course.

I'm so pumped Kamala Harris will be at the helm, I almost don't care who her VP, pick will be, but of course that's not quite true. I just want it to be as smooth sailing as possible.









CoopersDad

(3,330 posts)
20. Yay! We need a public transit minded administration.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:05 PM
Jul 2024

I mean I love my EV but know that public transit is better.

Attilatheblond

(8,876 posts)
37. One of the BEST speakers, if not THE BEST, but on the ticket or not,
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:24 PM
Jul 2024

he will be speaking and campaigning.

When speaking for the Harris campaign, or any down ballot DEM, he will be sure to say he is speaking as himself, not as Sec Transportation. He is serious about observing Hatch act. He is VERY precise on any TV interview which hat he is wearing at that moment, Sec Transportaion or Pete. That's why he told Rachel to call him Pete the other evening when she interviewed him re Biden passing the baton to Harris.

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
24. It is highly likely he will be selected as her running mate
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:10 PM
Jul 2024

They won’t risk AZ senate seat (would trigger special election) or key governorships - Shapiro, Bashear and Whitmer. The resistance from the right against Harris/Buttigieg ticket will be insane, scares me to even think about it.

cilla4progress

(26,525 posts)
41. Here's what would happen if Kelly were selected:
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:30 PM
Jul 2024

Democrat Gov. Katie Hobbs would then make an appointment to serve the remainder of Kelly’s Senate term.

nbsmom

(653 posts)
163. Clearly you don't put much stock in the vetting team
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:53 PM
Jul 2024

In case you missed what others have shared here:

- the Democratic governor would replace Kelly. This person would serve until the next general election.
- Pennsylvania's LT governor is also a Dem
- Andy Beshear is already serving his second term
- Michigan's LT governor is also a Dem

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
187. wrong. AZ has special elections - would be 2026 for Kelly's replacement
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:34 PM
Jul 2024

usually super low turnout favoring GOP. Younger folks sit those out.

LeftInTX

(34,286 posts)
189. No
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 10:44 PM
Jul 2024

A. When a vacancy occurs in the office of United States senator or representative in Congress by reason of death or resignation, or from any other cause and except as provided in subsection D of this section, the vacancy shall be filled at the next general election. At such an election the person elected shall fill the unexpired term of the vacated office.

C. For a vacancy in the office of United States senator, the governor shall appoint a person to fill the vacancy. That appointee shall be of the same political party as the person vacating the office and, except as provided in subsection D of this section, shall serve until the person elected at the next general election is qualified and assumes office.

D. If a vacancy in the office of United States senator occurs more than one hundred fifty days before the next regular primary election date, the person who is appointed pursuant to subsection C of this section shall continue to serve until the vacancy is filled at the next general election.

https://www.azleg.gov/ars/16/00222.htm

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
26. I'd love him as VP!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:12 PM
Jul 2024

I’m not sure he’d get the most votes and I favor Kelly but I sure wouldn’t complain.

rso

(2,673 posts)
29. RSO
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:17 PM
Jul 2024

Pete is outstanding, but I think the most important consideration is the electoral map and Pete does not help us there. But Kelly, Shapiro, Cooper are popular governors who would make sure we carried their particular swing State..

rso

(2,673 posts)
186. RSO
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:52 PM
Jul 2024

I don’t think Pete has held office in Michigan, Indiana is where he served, and our chances in Indiana are extremely slim. But if we want to focus on Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer would be the best VP candidate.

liberalmuse

(18,881 posts)
30. I hope he's the one.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:18 PM
Jul 2024

There are a lot of LGBTQ+ in all states yearning for more representation. Also, he ticks the white male/ex-military box. He might even draw som Fox viewers since they have him on there a lot.

splunge63

(159 posts)
33. grand slam, slam dunk
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:21 PM
Jul 2024

please, please, pretty please! don't let fear sway you from Pete, Kamala. he's the one

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
34. We can be sure Vance would not debate Mayor Pete - I am not sure there is any republican that would want
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:21 PM
Jul 2024

to debate him.

lizardkingjr

(95 posts)
45. He's the best communicator
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:32 PM
Jul 2024

that the Democrats have on their bench -- which is deep full of good communicators!

maxsolomon

(38,715 posts)
49. The former mayor of South Bend Indiana doesn't help cement any Swing States
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:34 PM
Jul 2024

They need to triangulate this choice. Tetrahedron it.

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
67. Geography is only one variable in the algorithm.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:53 PM
Jul 2024

Each variable carries a specific weight.

I don't know how much weight is given to geographical location in the Harris calculations.

OneGrassRoot

(23,953 posts)
58. Young people REALLY want him...
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:43 PM
Jul 2024

Heck, we old people really want him too!

If she picks him Vance should just resign from the ticket. 😂😂😂

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
63. I'm old and would love to see him the VP of the US.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:50 PM
Jul 2024

He is one of the brightest stars in the Dem firmament.

OneGrassRoot

(23,953 posts)
69. Absolutely. And I think Fox viewers...
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:54 PM
Jul 2024

are familiar with him and probably begrudgingly like him too.

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
71. He regularly beats the pants off the GOP on Fox.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:56 PM
Jul 2024

They have to respect him for going on Fox and then doing a good job.

phoenix_rising

(323 posts)
72. Yes! And BS to all the naysayers!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:57 PM
Jul 2024

We’re ready for a gay VP if we say we are! We have to move and make it happen or it never will! As Rev Al Sharpton said in response to the statement: “I don’t know if America is ready for a Black Woman to be President.”

Rev Sharpton: “America wasn’t ready for us to be off the plantation. It’s not about what the country is ready for, it’s about what WE are ready for!”

I couldn’t agree with him more! We ARE ready, and in my opinion Pete is the best, most capable candidate. We can’t afford to risk losing a Senate seat in a battleground state, and Pete and Chasten (and their beautiful children) live in MI, a swing state. He proudly served as an officer in the navy and was deployed to Afghanistan. His unparalleled talent and his brilliance more than compensate for any perceived lack of experience in winning elections. He is by far the strongest, most capable, most gifted communicator I have ever seen, bar none. His talents and accomplishments are innumerable. I can’t imagine passing up the best, most ideal candidate because of outdated, self-limiting beliefs holding us back. We are better than that! He is by far the most exciting, most capable candidate, and we are ready!!

Edited to add that Millennials and GenZ are mobilized like never before, and they are the most LGBTQ2SIA+ friendly generations in history! Adding Pete would ignite the enthusiasm to new heights and set the ticket on fire! 🔥

crimycarny

(2,090 posts)
81. News article says choice is down to 2 (Shapiro and Kelly)
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:10 PM
Jul 2024

I have no idea how "accurate" this information is. Sounds more like they are guessing than having any real information. For what it's worth:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kamala-harris-vp-pick-shapiro-kelly-b2584650.html

I have gone back and forth with Kelly versus Buttigieg. I just love love LOVE Pete Buttigieg. But my gut feeling is that Kelly would be a better choice due to the short amount of time and the need to get Independents on board. Independents may feel someone like Kelly balances out the ticket. Independents may see Buttigieg leaning the ticket more to the left than they are comfortable with (not saying he would, I mean the perception that he would). On the other hand, he got a standing ovation on a Fox News Townhall...so who knows! I'm sure Harris's team is privy to internal polling that will guide them towards the best choice.

One other area Kelly helps with is the border, since he comes from a border state. The GOP is doing all they can to make the whole "Border Czar" thing stick to Kamala (no matter how untrue). It's yet to be seen if they'll be able to make that stick, but Kelly as VP would help to negate that attack.

I'd like to see Buttigieg as Secretary of State. He would be great and it could be a stepping stone to a run in 8 years.

nbsmom

(653 posts)
158. Of course Mayor Pete should be considered. He would be a remarkable VP.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:36 PM
Jul 2024

But I'm still having flashbacks to this:

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phoenix_rising

(323 posts)
174. The world has changed a lot since then
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 06:39 PM
Jul 2024

Would love for that woman to have a biblical discussion with Pete. As a man of faith, he meets religious people on their level and can quote biblical passages more fluently than most preachers. She wouldn’t have a chance.



Edited to emphasize the irony, as people like this don’t think twice about voting for closeted cases like Lindsey Graham all the time. For most rational people, honesty and authenticity is an asset, not a deal breaker.

crimycarny

(2,090 posts)
175. OMG--first time I've seen this
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 06:48 PM
Jul 2024

Wow, just...wow. The ignorance is jaw-dropping.

I believe without a doubt that, given enough time, Pete could win over people who might not know him well. I just don't know if ~100 days is enough time and that's why I'd like to see him in a more visible role, like Secretary of State, during a Harris Presidency.

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

BaronChocula

(4,553 posts)
90. F. Mike Murphy
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:23 PM
Jul 2024

That's my name for him. Of course Sec'y B is being vetted and he's a great communicator.

But F. Mike Murphy.

nycbos

(6,715 posts)
92. The problem we had in 2016 was the party had no bench.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:24 PM
Jul 2024

We have a very large bench now. I would love Secretary Pete. But I also think Shapiro, Kelly, Cooper, and others would be solid choices. It’s a good problem to have

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
94. I have been waiting for the day when Mayor Pete would make a move at the national level.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:30 PM
Jul 2024

I mean, a Cabinet Secretary casts a pretty long shadow, but he is much bigger and better than even that. America would be LUCKY to have him as President one day.

travelingthrulife

(5,179 posts)
96. I would love this
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:33 PM
Jul 2024

He has great ability to defend progressive policies on regressive tv shows. He can handle the bigotry as well.

epreic01

(262 posts)
97. I think he's great.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:34 PM
Jul 2024

I don’t worry about him being gay. Honestly I worry about some of the bad headlines as far as transportation the past few years. Not his fault and I’m glad we have him there. But it would draw negative attention and idk if we have time to turn that narrative around.

mindfulNJ

(2,449 posts)
122. For those who say that we aren't ready
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:56 PM
Jul 2024

for Pete, I say bunk. I would have said the same thing a week ago but after the events of the last few days I say LET"S DO IT.


What a dream team!!!

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
135. It's nice that she is vetting him, but let's be real with going for one electoral milestone at a time.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:15 PM
Jul 2024

Electing a woman of color is that milestone and really is as much as we can ask for now and expect to win. It's too important to win this election and not push our chances too far. There was a time, not long ago, that you wouldn't even see an openly gay male as a cabinet member That time is coming, but not in this election.

FloridaBlues

(4,668 posts)
141. Is she considering or actually vetting? Do we know for sure.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:22 PM
Jul 2024

My bet is still a Governor from a purple state.

Aviation Pro

(15,578 posts)
152. Good man, honorable man
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:30 PM
Jul 2024

But not this year. I see him as our candidate in 2032 after he serves as a Senator or Governor of, hopefully, Indiana, but right now he won't be able to carry that ruby red, Cult state this year.

I think that all the candidates being vetted are great, but what's at play here is misdirection so the Cult expends valuable resources trying to counter the complex, multi-layered strategy of the Democrats.

My money is on either Kelly or Shapiro.

Mz Pip

(28,454 posts)
157. Secretary of State
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:35 PM
Jul 2024

not VP.

We are trying to get undecided voters, voters who are conservative enough to even be considering Trump. I’m not sure those people are ready for that.

Stick with Kelly.

returnee

(925 posts)
159. Mrs returnee and I were just now saying the same thing.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:39 PM
Jul 2024

It’s the bold move, consistent with Biden stepping aside and putting Kamala at the top of the ticket. And it’s not just youth, which is important. He is crazy smart, sharp, quick witted, an eloquent speaker, and keeps his cool under fire. He also has a military background. The only drawback I see is limited political background, relative to some others on the short list. We must insist gay is not a negative.

walrus314

(12 posts)
161. Certainly qualified...
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:42 PM
Jul 2024

Pete certainly has what it takes to be VP, and presumptive candidate. However, even with the recent bump, it boils down to swing states, which Pete wouldn't bring anything in directly from having hometown roots.

Granted Vance also did nothing for Trump bc Trump cannot figure out how to do anything right, so maybe it's a wash.

markpkessinger

(8,912 posts)
179. I've been saying for the past few days . . .
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 06:57 PM
Jul 2024

. . . that Buttigieg, with his sharp wit, superb verbal skills and command of the issues would be the most effective on the campaign trail of the names that have been mention. My only worry -- and it pains me to say this as a gay man myself -- is that a gay man on the same ticket with a mixed race woman might be a tad too much diversity for some voters.

James48

(5,213 posts)
181. Yes!!!! Pick PETE!!!
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 06:58 PM
Jul 2024

Please make Pete the next Vice President!

We need a good military background guy from Indiana/ Michigan. He will play well here, and will help Harris win.

radical noodle

(10,595 posts)
190. I don't think anyone could be a better spokesperson
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 11:13 PM
Jul 2024

for her agenda. He's almost universally well liked and explains complicated things in such an easy way that those average independents and people on the fence can relate to. Not only that, but the young people would really get behind them. And I love the way he's able to put Fox hosts in their place.

Remember that a lot of people laughed at his chances in 2020 and then he won the most delegates in the Iowa caucus. No one should count him out as not being able to win people over.

Those who won't vote for a gay man probably will be voting for trump anyway.

Okay, I'm biased. He's been a favorite of mine since 2020.

wildflowergardener

(1,029 posts)
191. He would be my choice
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 04:23 AM
Jul 2024

Charismatic, a good spokesman. As mentioned the homophobic people are probably already voting for Trump already. More well know than any of the other choices I have heard about. Military.

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