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riversedge

(81,091 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:07 PM Jul 2024

JD Vance calls for taking away voting power from "people who don't have kids": "Doesn't this mean that non-

Maybe Vance means women without children only get 3/5 th of a vote??
I did turn up the volumn- Vance is actually saying this.

JD Vance calls for taking away voting power from “people who don’t have kids”: “Doesn't this mean that non-parents don't have as much of a voice as parents? Yes. Absolutely”





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JD Vance calls for taking away voting power from "people who don't have kids": "Doesn't this mean that non- (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2024 OP
Does that mean I don't have to pay my school tax? debm55 Jul 2024 #1
BINGO! rurallib Jul 2024 #7
Federal taxes, state taxes, or municipal/property taxes.,... magicarpet Jul 2024 #8
Very likely, no one will pay school taxes ... Salvador Dolly Jul 2024 #34
And so I won't have a vote (I have no kids) for raising my taxes, spending my taxes, etc., etc., etc. NO. SWBTATTReg Jul 2024 #2
That includes much of our military. You really thought this out, eh? keithbvadu2 Jul 2024 #3
Non parents pay more in taxes... lame54 Jul 2024 #4
Absolutely. Brenda Jul 2024 #18
Too bad for you, Lindsey Graham! Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #5
Someone gonna tell @LindseyGrahamSC and @SenatorTimScott ? riversedge Jul 2024 #6
I have 4 kids Mossfern Jul 2024 #9
On the same note, why doesn't a pregnant woman get 2 votes? FakeNoose Jul 2024 #17
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2024 #10
That's a slippery slope Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #36
Lets call his bluff ExciteBike66 Jul 2024 #11
Well, there goes the MAGA incel vote. wnylib Jul 2024 #12
Are we to take this literally - I gave birth to 2 children. Does my husband get to vote? TBF Jul 2024 #13
JD is going to torpedo Trumps campaign. Lol Oneironaut Jul 2024 #14
One of the basic tenets of the American revolution: No taxation without representation. Jim__ Jul 2024 #15
His idea was to give parents the right to cast additional votes on behalf of their children. femmedem Jul 2024 #16
The quiver-full people will like this GenThePerservering Jul 2024 #19
Does my dead child count? Coventina Jul 2024 #20
So how about this. duncang Jul 2024 #21
How about we take away voting power from people who are stupid and immoral first? milestogo Jul 2024 #22
How does that work for parents of grown offspring? Is there a 'child' cut off age? Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #23
Nothing compicated at all with implementing this. Abolishinist Jul 2024 #24
Great JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #25
In Obama's words.."Please, proceed..." JD. Lol Mr.WeRP Jul 2024 #26
He is suggesting family voting where Klarkashton Jul 2024 #27
Well, so much for all the "Unity"... skypilot Jul 2024 #28
Engage brain before operating mouth, JD Maeve Jul 2024 #29
I'm reminded of something Ann Coulter said. Cartoonist Jul 2024 #30
There's an Ogden Nash poem that comes to mind Retrograde Jul 2024 #31
His first dig against "childless cat ladies" was misogynistic code for women who are not under the authority Timeflyer Jul 2024 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Dotty Jul 2024 #33
I had to listen to the video several times to convince myself he really said that. TomSlick Jul 2024 #35

magicarpet

(18,824 posts)
8. Federal taxes, state taxes, or municipal/property taxes.,...
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:18 PM
Jul 2024

.... if you have no children you get a free ride. No civil rights - not encumbered by any tax burdens.

A better deal than the 1% and the ultra rich.





Salvador Dolly

(71 posts)
34. Very likely, no one will pay school taxes ...
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 03:58 PM
Jul 2024

... in the notional Republican utopia.

Because public schools are basically gay, don't you know.

SWBTATTReg

(26,307 posts)
2. And so I won't have a vote (I have no kids) for raising my taxes, spending my taxes, etc., etc., etc. NO.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:11 PM
Jul 2024

Definitely NO. And you all of a sudden don't get the right to take my voting privileges away.

I know tRUMP wants to dump you, but NO. He's stuck w/ you, who is proving every day how unfit he is for upper office in this Country.

Brenda

(2,077 posts)
18. Absolutely.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:40 PM
Jul 2024

I've always paid more for benefits in my health insurance that I didn't need. Didn't complain, because it's a Group Policy.

I've always paid my taxes that went to local schools that I didn't use. Didn't complain, because I support the community.

I've always paid my federal taxes that do not give me credits for breeding. Didn't complain because well, honestly that one irritates me.

I'm sick of the takers blaming the non-takers for their problems and wanting to subvert democracy for their own fucking reasons.

If you want to deny me my constitutionally guaranteed right as one American, one vote because I am not a parent well, expect a tsunami of blowback JD Punk.




riversedge

(81,091 posts)
6. Someone gonna tell @LindseyGrahamSC and @SenatorTimScott ?
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:17 PM
Jul 2024

Or AOC? Are there other childless Reps or Senators?

Someone gonna tell @LindseyGrahamSC
and @SenatorTimScott?


Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
36. That's a slippery slope
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 08:39 PM
Jul 2024

Next you'll be taking away voting rights of couches and dogs that get shot and dogs that get eaten and even people with brain worms. It might even lead to Jerk Dunderhead Vance losing voting rights.

ExciteBike66

(2,700 posts)
11. Lets call his bluff
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:21 PM
Jul 2024

The people with young kids tend to be younger themselves. I would LOVE it if Republicans gave less power to their core, elderly constituency and more to the more liberal young families!

TBF

(36,859 posts)
13. Are we to take this literally - I gave birth to 2 children. Does my husband get to vote?
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:23 PM
Jul 2024

He's a great dad, but he didn't give birth to them.

Yale is probably wondering how on earth this one slipped through and was accepted into their law school ...

Jim__

(15,244 posts)
15. One of the basic tenets of the American revolution: No taxation without representation.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:29 PM
Jul 2024

Vance is campaigning against the basic tenets of American democracy.

femmedem

(8,562 posts)
16. His idea was to give parents the right to cast additional votes on behalf of their children.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:31 PM
Jul 2024

He wasn't saying to take away nonparents' right to vote, but he was certainly saying that the votes of parents should be weighted more heavily.

From WaPo: "A year before JD Vance was elected to the Senate, he advocated for a novel way to enhance the political strength of families — by giving parents the ability to cast tens of millions of additional votes on behalf of their children."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/24/jd-vance-parents-kids-voting/

Incredibly, the idea still has legs. From the same article:

"The idea Vance floated was fleshed out this month in a law review article titled “Give Parents the Vote” by Northwestern University law professor Joshua Kleinfeld and Harvard law professor Stephen Sachs. Giving parents the chance to vote on behalf of their children would “profoundly alter the incentives of American parties and politicians,” they wrote.

Vance has not reviewed the article, according to his campaign, and he has not publicly gone into the level of detail that the authors do.

There are more than 70 million children in the United States, according to the Census Bureau, and they account for nearly a quarter of the population. They have major stakes in climate change, the size of the federal government’s debt and long-term policies, Kleinfeld and Sachs wrote. They wrote that allowing parents to vote for children has to be taken seriously even if it sounds like a “silly provocation” at first."

duncang

(3,767 posts)
21. So how about this.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:50 PM
Jul 2024

I’m a grandpa does that mean I get to claim my kids and grandkids to get extra votes?

Edit: Do I also get extra votes for my kind of grandkids? My daughter donated eggs to a friend. Does that take votes away votes from their grandparents? How about nieces and nephews I consider them family. So I’m really invested in the future.

milestogo

(23,136 posts)
22. How about we take away voting power from people who are stupid and immoral first?
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:50 PM
Jul 2024

That means you, JD.

Attilatheblond

(9,019 posts)
23. How does that work for parents of grown offspring? Is there a 'child' cut off age?
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:54 PM
Jul 2024

JD doesn't want anyone over, oh, say 46 to have a vote?

Abolishinist

(2,977 posts)
24. Nothing compicated at all with implementing this.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:58 PM
Jul 2024

A 16 year old has a child out of wedlock, who gets the vote of this child? Does the mother now have the right to vote, and twice? Or does this vote remain with her parents?

If a family gets an extra vote for their one child, is it split between them, 1/2 vote each? Or does each parent get an extra vote?

Can an undecided voter cast one vote for candidate #1 and one vote for candidate #2?

So many more questions. I really think VD JD should be encouraged to put forth his new election proposal!

JustAnotherGen

(38,074 posts)
25. Great
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 03:03 PM
Jul 2024

My property taxes should be reduced (since I won't be able to vote in school board and local elections) as well as my State and Federal Taxes.

Klarkashton

(5,349 posts)
27. He is suggesting family voting where
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 03:08 PM
Jul 2024

The whole family gets to vote under the supervision of the parent. 10 kids? 12 votes.
JFC this is madness.

skypilot

(9,134 posts)
28. Well, so much for all the "Unity"...
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 03:10 PM
Jul 2024

...talking points from the Republicans. Now, on top of everything else, this asshole is pitting parents against non-parents.

Maeve

(43,476 posts)
29. Engage brain before operating mouth, JD
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 03:15 PM
Jul 2024

And everything I see "JD" I think "Juvenile Delinquent"

Cartoonist

(7,579 posts)
30. I'm reminded of something Ann Coulter said.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 03:21 PM
Jul 2024

She said only people whose grandparents were born here should be allowed to vote. That means none of the Trump family could vote.
My idiot racist brother sent me that, even though my paternal grandparents came from Europe.

Retrograde

(11,430 posts)
31. There's an Ogden Nash poem that comes to mind
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 03:21 PM
Jul 2024

every time I hear about JD Whatshisname. In the 1930s there was a series of detective novels featuring a sleuth named Philo Vance: they were not universally popular, and Nash had a short poem about it: "Philo Vance/Needs a kick in the pance".

Timeflyer

(3,768 posts)
32. His first dig against "childless cat ladies" was misogynistic code for women who are not under the authority
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 03:54 PM
Jul 2024

of a male. Those darn uppity women...

Response to riversedge (Original post)

TomSlick

(13,054 posts)
35. I had to listen to the video several times to convince myself he really said that.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 08:31 PM
Jul 2024

The stupid is strong with this one.

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