General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump press sec clarifies that JD Vance's comments only apply to "Democrats who can have children but choose not to"
if you are infertile... JD Vance is ok with you not having kids. He might still let you vote================================
Karoline Leavitt, a press secretary for former President Trump, defended Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) as he faces criticism over past comments calling out Democrats who dont have children.
As a new mom, my heart aches for women who are unable to bear children. @JDVance words are being taken out of context and unfairly attacked, Leavitt posted on social platform X.
In 2021, Vance made comments questioning if Vice President Harris is fit to lead since she does not have biological children. The remarks have recirculated in recent days, following his selection as Trumps running mate earlier this month.
Leavitt posted a clip of Vance speaking at the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, where he said his sentiment doesnt target people who struggled to find the right girl, find the right guy or the people who for biological, medical reasons cant have children. Vance said his remarks were directed at Democrats who can have children but choose not to.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4793501-trump-aide-defends-vance-comments-childless/
Irish_Dem
(81,263 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,238 posts)ms liberty
(11,237 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,263 posts)displacedvermoter
(4,500 posts)shouldn't be posting stuff reinforcing the stupidity of the candidate. She is helping to make things worse, which is fine with me.
Irish_Dem
(81,263 posts)Rec
Ninga
(9,012 posts)fuckwad is but I really like the sound of saying fuckwad).
Irish_Dem
(81,263 posts)They have no choice.
Skittles
(171,709 posts)we already knew they were ANTI-CHOICE
Irish_Dem
(81,263 posts)Women will have no choice but to follow all GOP dictates.
Skittles
(171,709 posts)BAD ASSUMPTION
eShirl
(20,255 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,263 posts)BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)Dudes are taking pumping scuzz from the bottom of the Intellectual Cesspool of Republconism
hlthe2b
(113,958 posts)just to be sure they are eligible, right? And of course, since pre-marital sex is verboten, will the government likewise be forcing marriage (of course to a pre-checked fertile INCEL MAGAT, right? )
Oh, yes, JD spokesperson... This makes it sooooooo alright...
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,238 posts)Have biological children? Yes/No
If no, are you infertile? Yes/No.
If yes (attached Doctors confirmation of infertility) You are eligible to vote.
If No, You are ineligible to vote.
B.See
(8,500 posts)CentralMass
(16,971 posts)Hope22
(4,746 posts)Disgusting!
J_William_Ryan
(3,496 posts)Thats just as bad.
Theres nothing wrong with deciding to not have children.
And for many Americans Democratic and Republican the choice is for economic reasons, the consequence of decades of failed, wrongheaded Republican policies, such as the rights unwarranted opposition to affordable childcare and access to affordable health care.
no_hypocrisy
(54,906 posts)ms liberty
(11,237 posts)First I didn't want kids. Then I wanted a kid if I found a partner who would be a good, stable father. Then I didn't find the guy, then finally I found the guy. Then I had some minor problems with getting pregnant, but then breast cancer hit and the chemo sent me into early, permanent menopause.
When a woman says at *14 or 16, or 25 or 30 that she doesn't want children it's not always her permanent decision. For some it is, and others do want kids.
But many women today are conditional, like I always was. I didn't want kids on my on, and I wasn't going to tie myself to a loser or abuser forever just to have a child. I saw way too many women older than me in those situations, and I didn't want children that badly; I never felt the ticking clock. I could use birth control and NOT sacrifice myself on the altar of childbirth and motherhood. In my case, breast cancer stopped me, but I'm here 27 years later writing about it.
And so Guyliner needs to have a big cup of STFU about my right to vote as a childless woman in America.
*I'm not sayin' he likes'em young but we know his boss does...
kwolf68
(8,452 posts)And ANOTHER reason why the government should stay the hell out of women's private lives. It's amazing the "limited government party" is so oppressive.
servermsh
(1,406 posts)Solly Mack
(96,942 posts)Two idiots working together to advance stupid.
hatrack
(64,887 posts)Keep on digging.
allegorical oracle
(6,480 posts)Passages
(4,161 posts)Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
They know Vance screwed up royally.
IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)Not even for abortion. They don't want people to have choice in anything.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)Gotta love it, when your enemies stumble into leaving such a gift on your doorstep.
hatrack
(64,887 posts). . . and then went outside to stomp it out.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Lovie777
(22,972 posts)BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)Maybe it works for a certain kind of MAGA republicon, but not for anyone else.
JD needs to keep his icky opinions zipped up in his Ivy League Shillbilly brain.
Dave Bowman
(7,158 posts)Wednesdays
(22,601 posts)edisdead
(3,396 posts)Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)tanyev
(49,291 posts)Lulu KC
(8,893 posts)There simply aren't any. As if. SMH
Zambero
(9,990 posts)If GOP? "Self-motivated success stories living the American Dream"!
Zambero
(9,990 posts)But there's hope! IVF just might be the solution! Escape the stigma of being a childless cat lady! Oh, wait a minute...
33taw
(3,343 posts)Burnnotice
(29 posts)They sure will.
Freethinker65
(11,203 posts)Alrighty then.
So confused. If, according to Vance, only liberal women are required to be breeders to have a say in government, by Vance's vacuous brain, wouldn't that lead to more children groomed to grow up as Democrats?
Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)FalloutShelter
(14,465 posts)Is giving birth?
because as far as I know, NO ONE who has held the office has given birth.
The GOP is freakishly obsessed with what goes on between your legs, ladies.
They can eff right off. Lets show them the trap door. Clue: they are standing on it.
karin_sj
(1,370 posts)What an idiot. I'm sure there are republicans out there who could have children but choose not to. And besides, they don't seem to have the capability to understand that everybody has the right to make that decision for themselves. Kinda like the decision about what women do or don't do with their bodies.
Dear_Prudence
(1,172 posts)So if your child dies, you also lose some voting rights?
Basso8vb
(1,230 posts)Liberal In Texas
(16,270 posts)1) You can't be a Democrat that passes a fertility test and
2) Are using some form of birth control or
3) If female had ever had an abortion (they will be keeping mandatory menstrual cycle data to aid in determining any abortions.)
claudette
(5,455 posts)anyone decides to have children or not? Is JDVance the POPE now? That's how Catholics were taught many years ago.
My gawd - I cannot understand the pettiness of Gopers. Besides, does Vance think that it's only DEMOCRATS who DECIDE not
to have kids? No - I'm sure lots of gopers do.
Happy Hoosier
(9,535 posts)... we can NOT allow the media to shrug and move on from this. This is fucking gold.
allegorical oracle
(6,480 posts)easy. So when it came to deciding whether we would have a baby...we opted to rear what we already had responsibility for. They went to college and did very well.
Every family has its unique circumstances that require tough decisions. Vance needs to shut his yap.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,238 posts)themaguffin
(5,220 posts)Dave Bowman
(7,158 posts)AmBlue
(3,460 posts)There is just no BOTTOM!!
liberalla
(11,089 posts)Shut up JD -- you're only making it worse !!!
I hope they choke on this!
markie
(24,017 posts)talks/writes nonsense...
NoMoreRepugs
(12,076 posts)SCRUBDASHRUB
(7,258 posts)Crunchy Frog
(28,280 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:13 AM - Edit history (1)
who I was a health aide for over many years. She was also a lifelong Republican.
She was never married, but was in a relationship that lasted over 40 years, until the man died. She also never had any children and made it very clear that she had never wanted them, though she did enjoy being an aunt.
It's not just Democrats who make the choice not to have children.
Edit: She didn't like cats either. Maybe that would have made her okay with Vance.
Baitball Blogger
(52,344 posts)Are they suggesting that there aren't Republican women who have decided not to have children?
Skittles
(171,709 posts)THEY ARE THAT FUCKING STUPID
haele
(15,399 posts)Hmm. Harris didn't find the "right guy" to share her life until she was in her 40's. That's pretty old to start having children, whether she wanted to have one or not. The risks of medical complications to both potential mother and child at that age increase exponentially; especially since some women begin to experience peri-menopause by then.
I did pretty much the same, spending my 20's and 30's working my ass off establishing a career I enjoyed for myself because I didn't want to spend youth anxiously looking for someone to take care of me in exchange for giving him kids.
Especially because I learned early on from fellow students and neighbors that the caretaker father figure initially chosen by mom may not be there - for whatever reason.
The Vietnam War, and the criminalization of young minority men (especially in the Reagan years) did a lot to increase the numbers of all those poor single mothers the GOP loves to wag their fingers at.
So, as usual, they're full of shit. She did "the right thing" by the rules they set down, maintaining herself and only getting married when she found the guy she wanted to spend her life with, but the goalposts are moved because she's not a perfect perky white middle class daughter.
Haele
Martin68
(27,741 posts)a couple have no children by choice or because of medical issues. That knowledge is privileged information.
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)Making an apology for these incels and misogynists.
keep_left
(3,210 posts)...(to borrow Randi Rhodes' term). She made an appearance here recently because of her insulting, disrespectful attitude during an interview with CNN's Kasie Hunt. So my question is, whatever happened to Trump's former spokesmodel, Liz Harrington? Did Trump trade her in for the latest version or something?!
https://democraticunderground.com/100219056964
https://democraticunderground.com/100219056964#post31
Skittles
(171,709 posts)WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE ASSHOLES
spanone
(141,609 posts)may they rot in the deepest, hottest holes of hades
PeaceWave
(3,383 posts)LogicFirst
(594 posts)Do you include in your misguided opinion the Catholic nuns who "could" have children but choose not to?